Have I made a mistake?
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So, I recently bought a beautiful low mileage '04 GT3 and I had my first real drive in it today. Now I'm thinking I may have made a mistake!?
I just moved back to Canada after living in Germany and England for almost 10 years. Over there I had a '96 993 C2 with lots of track focused modifications. I visited many big name European tracks, including the 'Ring in and did many 'bucket list' driving tours (Stelivo, Romba pass, etc.). I loved driving the 993 (once the suspension was upgraded) but the whole time I had it I thought to myself... instead of spending all the money upgrading the 993 I should have just bought a GT3 and been done with it.
When I found out I was moving back I sold the 993 thinking this was my opportunity! I bought the GT3 in the middle of winter so I only drove it for a few kms to check it out and I guess during the test drive I was still intoxicated with the power and idea of actually owning it.
Now after driving it (on shockingly bad roads compared to Germany) I'm just not feeling the love. Sure it's fast and handling is supreme but it's missing something... I know it's a cliche but the older cars just offered something different -at least to me.
Maybe once I get to the track I will change my mind and maybe I just miss driving my 993 in its natural habitat and I'm being sentimental.
I guess the old saying is true "...the grass is always greener." What to do?
I just moved back to Canada after living in Germany and England for almost 10 years. Over there I had a '96 993 C2 with lots of track focused modifications. I visited many big name European tracks, including the 'Ring in and did many 'bucket list' driving tours (Stelivo, Romba pass, etc.). I loved driving the 993 (once the suspension was upgraded) but the whole time I had it I thought to myself... instead of spending all the money upgrading the 993 I should have just bought a GT3 and been done with it.
When I found out I was moving back I sold the 993 thinking this was my opportunity! I bought the GT3 in the middle of winter so I only drove it for a few kms to check it out and I guess during the test drive I was still intoxicated with the power and idea of actually owning it.
Now after driving it (on shockingly bad roads compared to Germany) I'm just not feeling the love. Sure it's fast and handling is supreme but it's missing something... I know it's a cliche but the older cars just offered something different -at least to me.
Maybe once I get to the track I will change my mind and maybe I just miss driving my 993 in its natural habitat and I'm being sentimental.
I guess the old saying is true "...the grass is always greener." What to do?
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I had the same issue....but when you get on a track your tune will change.
You need however to get a rebuilt limited slip and you need an alignment before you get to the track. These two issues always plague 6GT3 handling and are key to performing well on the track. Get a Guard rebuild on your LSD. Also get a few rear suspension bits so your alignment stays intact at the track - I got RSS toe links wth bump adjustment and an eccentric lockout and I am a happy camper.
The car is harder to drive than your 993 - but after a weekend at the track you're going to love it.
By the way...the 996 GT3 is a pure sports car compared to the models that have come after it....maybe the last of the pure porsches. You will grow to love this. I'm keeping mine forever...
You need however to get a rebuilt limited slip and you need an alignment before you get to the track. These two issues always plague 6GT3 handling and are key to performing well on the track. Get a Guard rebuild on your LSD. Also get a few rear suspension bits so your alignment stays intact at the track - I got RSS toe links wth bump adjustment and an eccentric lockout and I am a happy camper.
The car is harder to drive than your 993 - but after a weekend at the track you're going to love it.
By the way...the 996 GT3 is a pure sports car compared to the models that have come after it....maybe the last of the pure porsches. You will grow to love this. I'm keeping mine forever...
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I agree with the previous responses. I had a 964 with several nice performance mods and it was loads of fun on the street and pretty decent on track. The old air cooled cars have a great sound even at low and medium revs; they’re lively and fun at the kind of modest speeds you can exploit on a good back road and they’re full of character overall. As pure street cars they’re hard to beat.
A 996 GT3 is only ho-hum as a street car – the suspension is pretty rough on anything less than perfect roads; it’s performance envelope is high enough to make it feel uneventful at street speeds; you’d have to be crazy to drive it anywhere near its potential on any public road, and at low and medium revs it doesn’t sound as good to my ear as the old cars. But get it on a track and run it up to 8000 RPM’s and it’s a whole different ball game. Not only is it faster than the old cars, but it’s more thrilling too. In fact, you’ll appreciate it more on the street once you’ve felt it on the track. Knowing what it’s capable of, you’ll feel as if you have a tiger on a leash every time you drive it on the street.
A 996 GT3 is only ho-hum as a street car – the suspension is pretty rough on anything less than perfect roads; it’s performance envelope is high enough to make it feel uneventful at street speeds; you’d have to be crazy to drive it anywhere near its potential on any public road, and at low and medium revs it doesn’t sound as good to my ear as the old cars. But get it on a track and run it up to 8000 RPM’s and it’s a whole different ball game. Not only is it faster than the old cars, but it’s more thrilling too. In fact, you’ll appreciate it more on the street once you’ve felt it on the track. Knowing what it’s capable of, you’ll feel as if you have a tiger on a leash every time you drive it on the street.
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if you are more than 500rpm below max rpm fuel cutoff, you have NOT driven a 996gt3.
every gear, you need to get there. then you understand why 993 is such a boring car. yes, i have had several 993 modded to wazoo, and driven 993RSCS as well.
every gear, you need to get there. then you understand why 993 is such a boring car. yes, i have had several 993 modded to wazoo, and driven 993RSCS as well.
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Honestly.. unless you really plan on tracking the car, I'd move to something else. If you're not into it, you're not into it. I'd hate to see you spend thousands on maintenance and upgrades on a car that isn't right for you.
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I went from a heavily modded 993 to my GT3. The 993 is a wonderful car, and does have some charm that is missing from the GT3. As has been said above, the GT3 isn't a great street car, especially if you have roads like we have here in Michigan. It is much more expensive to maintain and to mod. As a track car, it runs circles around the 993. Just decide where your priorities are before you dump $$$ into the GT3.
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I'm sort of in the same situation other then I still have my DE prepped 993 in my garage, well actually my trailer but anyway... Chuck and others have also told me once I drive the 6GT3 on the track there will be no doubt which to keep. I am going to drive both of them on the track back to back in May at Tremblant. I know the 6GT3 will be faster and allow me to hang on a bit closer to the rest of the pack of GT3's I run with but if its not that much more fun then I will be keeping the 993 and eventually letting the 6GT3 go.
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Hey Alex,
You have a great car, I say at least drive it this year as you were planning on using it, and keep modifications to a minimum unless you really feel the track-bug biting hard. I'm on the fence which is better street car, air vs. water, aircooled's have more charm but IMO don't offer the performance unless a Turbo model and more scared of using it due to depreciation and possible damage/wear, watercooled's are faster and 'better' overall but do lack the character at normal speeds.
Drive it for this year and come spring next year see if you are excited to pull it out of storage, if lacking excitement, drive a 993 and see what fits the bill, let me know if you decide to sell![thumbsup](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/bigok.gif)
Cheers,
You have a great car, I say at least drive it this year as you were planning on using it, and keep modifications to a minimum unless you really feel the track-bug biting hard. I'm on the fence which is better street car, air vs. water, aircooled's have more charm but IMO don't offer the performance unless a Turbo model and more scared of using it due to depreciation and possible damage/wear, watercooled's are faster and 'better' overall but do lack the character at normal speeds.
Drive it for this year and come spring next year see if you are excited to pull it out of storage, if lacking excitement, drive a 993 and see what fits the bill, let me know if you decide to sell
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I'm sort of in the same situation other then I still have my DE prepped 993 in my garage, well actually my trailer but anyway... Chuck and others have also told me once I drive the 6GT3 on the track there will be no doubt which to keep. I am going to drive both of them on the track back to back in May at Tremblant. I know the 6GT3 will be faster and allow me to hang on a bit closer to the rest of the pack of GT3's I run with but if its not that much more fun then I will be keeping the 993 and eventually letting the 6GT3 go.
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