christallon

Hey guys,

Im back after a lay-off from the Rennlist world. Hope you are all well and healthy. I’m bringing my 6-3 out of storage and have been contemplating a 991.1 GT3. I saw one the other day with low miles and in very original shape and condition. Awesome looking car with a beautiful interior. I’ve been pouring over data and checking out reviews and you tubes. the kicker for me is watching the drivers faces as they hit 9K RPM’s and shift. It’s not a put on, they are all sincerely blown away by the experience. Wondered how many of you have either considered the switch, or made the switch and either regretted it, and came back to the 6-3 or discovered it was the right decision. Early days in my thinking process, but thought you all would have opinions and thoughts. TIA... Chris

spiller

I had 90 minutes on track with a 991.1 at Porsche Experience Center Atlanta a few years ago and after about 60 minutes I was becoming bored and longing for my 996 GT3. They’re just totally different cars and not comparable in any way. If you were thinking of adding, I’d say do it. If replacing, then based on some of your posts on these forums about what you seem to love in your 996, then I don’t think the 991 will fill the void. The other concern is the engine issue on the 991.1. I haven’t read about it in depth but from what I gather, the consensus is Porsche did a band aid fix and they’re all ticking time bombs. The 10 year warranty doesn’t have long to go now on a lot of these cars.

Marv

I love the 991. The looks, power, and performance is awesome.

However, as much as I would love one, I couldn't afford it. Everything costs more: tires, brakes, general maintenance, even removing the center lock wheels is a financial pain. The lust runs out when I do an oil change on the 996. It's so simple, easy, and fast. Changing an air filter on the 991 requires bumper removal and how many times will you do that before fasteners don't tighten?

Not saying the 991 is a bad car, it isn't. It's technically awesome. But it simply costs too much for my means and I would intend on keeping it long term, just like the 13 years I've spent with the 996 GT3.

Porsche didn't do themselves well by making the 996 GT3 or even the 997 GT3. They are hard to beat because they really embrace the soul of driving—for me. Your mileage may vary.

christallon

Thanks for the feedback guys. I’m certainly looking forward to getting the car up and going again. It’s been a while. Just made room in the garage for it👍 I remember how awesome the pure thrill of driving the wild child over the years was. A Zen Handful, cause you can’t really think of anything else when at full song🤓 Sometimes the new girl turns your gaze. Any other thoughts out there? Thanks again fella’s

christallon

Here is the old girl

Stephen Tinker

She doesn't tub up too bad for an "old girl" does she Chris?
I don't know what the pricing delta is in the US between the two GT3 models, but here in Australia the pricing can be between 2.5 and 3 times the 996 GT3 value, so if spending that amount of cash, you have to be pretty sure you are doing the right thing.
And in todays climate - ummm I don't know if I would...??

christallon

Good point. Here the delta is $35-$40k, so about 50% over the 6-3. I can’t have them both. Thanks for you input, I appreciate the wisdom.

christallon

Im going to add a 997.1 RS to the list. I like Pumpkins 🎃 . Please add thoughts between 6-3: Pumpkin: and 991.1 GT3

Thanks all

Marv

Keep in mind it isn't just the cost of entry for the 991, it's the the cost of ownership that adds up.

Then again, you may not struggle with that. And if you don't, and you can find a good 997.2 RS, I would give that some serious thought.

christallon

Thanks Marv. I’m looking into cost of ownership of 991. The centerlocks alone look cool but the tools and effort required to deal w wheel changes sure makes it less appealing. You mentioned 997.2 RS, wonder if you meant 997.1 RS. I won’t spend 997.2 money for sure. Do you prefer the .2 over the .1? I like the idea of the .1 because it’s considered analog, hydraulic steering, orange, etc. I’m looking at one today, so will have a much better comparison to the 6-3 after I drive it. I have not driven the 991.1 yet.

Olemiss540

I honestly am not smitten with the 991 GT3s body style. Its proportions to me just look massive and the bulging of the fenders seems "off" compared to any of the earlier generations.

A 997RS seems like my holy grail in terms of styling and interior while still having an analogue feel. This would be a wonderful compromise of new interior styling without the gaudy dimensions of the newer generation but the performance gap between a 997.1 and 996 is not very wide so wouldn't use that metric to justify the jump.

I would go for the RS if you can justify the price gap, otherwise stick with the OG IMO. No doubt a 991 is going to have the performance gap but that means little to me once you get to those levels as anyone can buy faster, few can DRIVE faster.

On the other hand, I do love the gt4's lines and it is a GREAT dual duty car compared to the older gt3s. Just a blast of a toy to wring out both around town and on track.

Marv

The .2RS is a better car than the .1, but both have hydraulic steering and low vehicle weight. The .2RS will set you back deeper in the pocket, but is considered a better driver's car. That's why it costs more.

The 991 has better performance than its predecessors, but that technology may not make you as happy compared to earlier versions of the GT3 family. Then again, the 991 is going to be easier to drive on the street than the 996 or 997. The front axel lift on the 991 (I think that's an option) is better than the optional lift on the 997, which was prone to failures. It depends on the person.

My first sports car was a Triumph TR-4a. The difference between the TR-4's rear shocks and welded solid rods is almost indistinguishable. The 996 GT3, even with the Ohlins suspension is a luxury ride compared to the TR-4, so to me the later GT cars scrub some of the "sports car" feel out of the equation, yet each new iteration of the GT cars proves to be superior in performance.

There is no single "right" car for everyone, so you need to try other cars and see which resonates with your needs and wants. Visit the other forums and read the stickies. Ask questions. Read opinions on the web, then test drive them for yourself. Have fun!

himself

I also went through the "get a new GT3" mental gymnastics a while back. Wanted the PDK and extra HP, but didn't want want to lose the 6_3. Turns out, I don't go to the track much now after the 6th kid was born, so there wasn't really any justification to get a new GT3. If you are street driving, my vote would be to get something different. Any new-ish Porsche is going to be a better street/tourer than the 6_3. If you are tracking, you should stick with a 6_3.

Besides, I like my known and consistent "wife." I don't need no big boobed, attitude-y Judy new "GF" that's gonna take all my money. lol . My "wife" knows how to be a lady, but still can be dirty when needed. hahahaha.

-td

Bringing back this video for funsies:

MacFever

996 for the track and 991 daily :-)

Dervish

I recently went from 996.2 ClubSport to 997.1RS, thread here https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...6gt-forum.html

Getting a Pumpkin was the dream but this white RS turned up and had everything I could wish for and more.

My thoughts are in that thread. Long and short is I truly miss the 996, but I love the 997.