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Old 06-03-2017 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Splitting Atoms
Could work. The only catch is there will be a limitation on how much can be borrowed against the car, so he may have to come up with a substantial down payment.
That's what the money from the sale to the shop is for.
Old 06-04-2017 | 01:35 PM
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I appreciate the useful comments, everyone. I'm going to rebuild.

The dealer that sold it to me is Nelson Mazda https://www.nelsonmazda.com/antioch.

Just so you know I didn't "throw a turd in the punchbowl". I don't see what would be the use in doing that.
Old 06-04-2017 | 03:15 PM
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Thanks for chiming back in and good luck on the rebuild!
Old 06-04-2017 | 03:17 PM
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PPI prior to purchase?
Indy that did the diagnoses?

This might be helpful to others.
Old 06-04-2017 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by otterteeth
I appreciate the useful comments, everyone. I'm going to rebuild.

The dealer that sold it to me is Nelson Mazda https://www.nelsonmazda.com/antioch.

Just so you know I didn't "throw a turd in the punchbowl". I don't see what would be the use in doing that.
So, a Mazda dealer is doing the rebuild?? Or you traded the 996 in for a Mazda?
Old 06-04-2017 | 04:11 PM
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A place called Fifth Gear Automotive in Hermitage TN - http://www.5thgearautomotiverepair.com/- did the diagnosis after the failure. The Mazda dealer had it towed there after I approached them about helping out with the repair (they are not helping - in case anyone is wondering).

A few weeks before I bought it, Fifth Gear changed the oil, replaced the starter, and changed the oil/air separator. They are not going to do the rebuild. I'm having it towed back to my house in the next few days. I will probably do the rebuild/install myself unless I can find a reasonably priced shop to do it. I'm doing a cost estimate now for all the different options including rebuild, purchase a rebuilt 996, or replace with a LS series engine.

EDIT: - Having issues with the facebook page of Fifth Gear Automotive. If you are interested in them do a search on Facebook.

Last edited by otterteeth; 06-04-2017 at 04:15 PM. Reason: facebook URL is vomiting... changed it to their home page
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That sounds better...
You'll have to get it apart and evaluated, measured up before you can make a determination of true costs that you'll be facing.

With this failure collateral damages are what cost, and are hard to determine.
Old 06-04-2017 | 04:37 PM
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Essentially the money is gone regardless....
  • Sell it as a roller, big loss.
  • Have a quality engine installed, ~$20K+ and the total value of the car post repair will be about the same as the cost of the engine package (see BAT for recent example).
  • Have a 'budget' engine installed, cost less but worth less, plus potential quality issues?
  • LS engine, labor of love and big hole to throw money into, endless minor issues to resolve. Very limited future resale value. Buy a Vette instead.
  • Rebuild yourself... Not a bad solution if you really have the time, skills, tools and parts access to do this rebuild, but not exactly like rebuilding a chevy 350. And again, future value is compromised. eg: no way I'm taking a chance on a 996 with an diy-owner-rebuilt engine.
Unless the car is really mint and something you see yourself keeping for a long time if repaired, selling it as a roller or parting it out might be the quickest and most painless way to take your medicine.

Sorry for your misfortune. Unfortunately one of the reasons 996's are such fantastic sports car bargains for 97% of owners is because 3% draw the short straw...

Mind if I ask the question we are all wondering, what did you pay for it?
Old 06-04-2017 | 05:21 PM
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https://rennlist.com/forums/parts-ma...65k-miles.html
Old 06-04-2017 | 05:55 PM
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1). Pull your engine and have it diagnosed properly.

2). If cheap enough, fix yours.

3). If too much buy the used one for sale and do the IMSB, rear main seal, aos, tune up parts, new clutch and install and enjoy.

4). Forget the LS swap unless you can weld, fabricate and diagnose full auto electronics.

5). The only feasible engine swap is if you possess those skills. Otherwise take whatever cost the internet says and double it and add 20% to that and then you are being realistic.

You can get an ls powered Miata turn jet for $35k plus the price of a Miata done for you. That's a reasonable price if you are paying for the swap and parts in a 996 too.
Old 06-04-2017 | 06:19 PM
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I wonder why this hasn't sold. Great price! Needs more info posted about the source, though.
Old 06-04-2017 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by otterteeth
A place called Fifth Gear Automotive in Hermitage TN - http://www.5thgearautomotiverepair.com/- did the diagnosis after the failure. The Mazda dealer had it towed there after I approached them about helping out with the repair (they are not helping - in case anyone is wondering).

A few weeks before I bought it, Fifth Gear changed the oil, replaced the starter, and changed the oil/air separator. They are not going to do the rebuild. I'm having it towed back to my house in the next few days. I will probably do the rebuild/install myself unless I can find a reasonably priced shop to do it. I'm doing a cost estimate now for all the different options including rebuild, purchase a rebuilt 996, or replace with a LS series engine.

EDIT: - Having issues with the facebook page of Fifth Gear Automotive. If you are interested in them do a search on Facebook.
So no PPI done prior to purchase?
Old 06-04-2017 | 07:20 PM
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This could be your ticket but you need to get more details from the seller
https://rennlist.com/forums/parts-ma...65k-miles.html
He seems motivated to sell...
Old 06-04-2017 | 07:56 PM
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No legal recourse, lemon law for used cars? Did you buy "as is"?

https://www.carlemon.com/lemon/tn_law.html

https://www.carlemon.com/
Old 06-04-2017 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 808Bill
That's what the money from the sale to the shop is for.
You would need the money from the shop to help pay off the first note. I think we are getting into some corporate America financing here!


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