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Old 06-04-2017, 08:20 PM
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I've contacted a couple of attorney's (including the one on the lemonlaw.com site) and there's no legal recourse. I bought it as-is.
Old 06-04-2017, 08:34 PM
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Not sure if this was already posted, but there is a 3.6 posted in the for sale section for $6500. My want to talk to them about the history on the engine. Probably the least expensive option if the engine is in good shape. Of course, it is always a crap shoot buying a used engine.
Old 06-04-2017, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by otterteeth
I've contacted a couple of attorney's (including the one on the lemonlaw.com site) and there's no legal recourse. I bought it as-is.
Tough lesson, did you have a PPI done before purchase?
Old 06-04-2017, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Splitting Atoms
You would need the money from the shop to help pay off the first note. I think we are getting into some corporate America financing here!
Heck, I forgot about that part.
Otterteeth, have you added yourself to the IMSB poll?

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Old 06-05-2017, 06:38 AM
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Let's face it, a PPI would not have avoided this.
Old 06-05-2017, 09:04 AM
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If you have time on your side, then I say take Jakes next engine class.

Go ahead pull the motor, tear it down, get a feel for how bad it is.

Once you are in class it will all start to click really fast, and will give you comfort level at getting it back together right.

I was in his last class, I cannot express how positive an experience it was. Jake, Tony, and Charles have set up a learning experience that I could not find a critique for the post class satisfaction survey. The amount of knowledge you learn in the actual class and between the lines during casual conversation is tremendous.
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Originally Posted by sugarwood
Let's face it, a PPI would not have avoided this.
We know the out come on no PPI.

PPI on a high miles 996.2 with apparently no service records bought from a non P car dealer wouldnt help.

Dropping the sump plate, checking cam timing and fault code history may have alerted the buyer.
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Originally Posted by sugarwood
Let's face it, a PPI would not have avoided this.
A worthless, non- invasive PPI would not have detected this, unless someone got lucky.

An invasive PPI more than likely would have, as long as the inspector wasn't asleep during the procedure, and knew what he was looking at.

When you know what the warning signs are, and where you normally find them, it's a different story. I generally find "downers" in less than 20
minutes. The last 3 PPI's I did we didn't even charge for, aince we found problems immediately that downed the car. That's why I stopped offering them.
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Yep. I can agree on the worthless PPI (essentially that's what I got from Fifth Gear).

I've decided to hand it over to Jake Raby to do his magic. I'm positive that it's in good hands.
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Originally Posted by Flat6 Innovations
A worthless, non- invasive PPI would not have detected this, unless someone got lucky.

An invasive PPI more than likely would have, as long as the inspector wasn't asleep during the procedure, and knew what he was looking at.

When you know what the warning signs are, and where you normally find them, it's a different story. I generally find "downers" in less than 20
minutes. The last 3 PPI's I did we didn't even charge for, aince we found problems immediately that downed the car. That's why I stopped offering them.
Besides dropping sump plate, inspecting oil filter and looking at cam deviation what do you call invasive?
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Originally Posted by otterteeth
Yep. I can agree on the worthless PPI (essentially that's what I got from Fifth Gear).

I've decided to hand it over to Jake Raby to do his magic. I'm positive that it's in good hands.
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Originally Posted by otterteeth
A place called Fifth Gear Automotive in Hermitage TN - http://www.5thgearautomotiverepair.com/- did the diagnosis after the failure. The Mazda dealer had it towed there after I approached them about helping out with the repair (they are not helping - in case anyone is wondering).

A few weeks before I bought it, Fifth Gear changed the oil, replaced the starter, and changed the oil/air separator. They are not going to do the rebuild. I'm having it towed back to my house in the next few days. I will probably do the rebuild/install myself unless I can find a reasonably priced shop to do it. I'm doing a cost estimate now for all the different options including rebuild, purchase a rebuilt 996, or replace with a LS series engine.

EDIT: - Having issues with the facebook page of Fifth Gear Automotive. If you are interested in them do a search on Facebook.
Fifth Gear prep car for sale.

From your writings here they did not perform a PPI.
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Originally Posted by 808Bill
Heck, I forgot about that part.
Otterteeth, have you added yourself to the IMSB poll?
Nope. What is that?
Old 06-05-2017, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Flat6 Innovations
So.... If you own the car, and its paid off completely....

Sell the car to your shop that will do the repairs... They register the vehicle to themselves, and source a title in their name.... Let them repair it...

Then you buy the car back from them, and finance the purchase of the car, including the cost of the engine repair as part of the purchase price...

You have then just financed the engine rebuild...

It takes a twisted brain to think of that one. It works. I speak from experience.
Very very good, sir. I'm printing this out and putting in my car folder for a rainy day. Thank you.


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