Absolutely but along those same lines, if you bring a Holland & Holland to a regular gunsmith... they won't let you open the box before saying no. In this day of the interwebz, bad press is catastrophic and most people that aren't shade tree techs will just refer you to another shop.

 

Nope. Load of bs. Straight from factory the 996.2 coupe has 20+ more hp than does the 996.1. It is also faster from every metric. If you modify both models the same, the 996.2 will produce more again.

it's like comparing a 40th anniversary to a 996.2 coupe. The 40th is faster.

 

Agreed. I've owned both and the .2 was noticeably torquier than the .1.

 

No question, 0 to 60 Is worthless on the street and track. What matters is 40 to 120, now that's important on the track since most of your driving is between those 2 numbers. And then it's a momentum game in the 996.

 

+1, having driven both and owning the .2.

 

I too prefer the 996.2, but it is more than just the engine. Reminder here is a list of the changes for the 996.2 and a review when it came out.

https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...l#post15173972

 

Early Build 996.1 > 996.1, 996.2

Just ask the person with the most experience working on 996s

 

I got some seat time in a customers 996.2, it did feel a bit torquer and seemed to a bit better fit and finish but dunno that I would trade my 996.1 for that. I would get a 997 if I was getting out of the 996.

 

All you have to do is find the specs from porsche on hp, tq, weight, 0-60, top speed, somewhere is 0-100. Not much to argue. 996.2 has more power and speed. Just like the 996.1 has more power and speed than the 993. Kinda how it works every time a new model or variation comes out.

Doesn't take away from the attractiveness of any model or variation. Just is what it is.

 

I’ve driven several different 996s, and some just feel down on power. Most likely, something is up with those particular examples. When you drive enough of these, you get to notice the way a 911 ‘should’ feel like.

The .2 feels stronger than the .1, but if you wring out every last drop of a .1, to redline, it’s pretty much just as fast as the .2 cars. That said, Porsche often improves their cars every year, so the newer cars should be faster, overall, than the older cars, even if the improvement is tiny.

 

I can tell you I have a 2003 that is amazing and a 1999 that is a roller and based on that research, and that research alone, well, maybe some of you should sit down...

 

I strongly prefer the early 996.1's over the 996.2's in general, but I think the 996.2 has the nod on performance given only a 58 lb increase (c2/6-speed/coupe) over the 996.1. The 996.2 power-to-weight ratio is better and, more importantly, the low-end torque of the 996.2 is supposed to be better (I haven't driven a 996.2). I think Porsche's official numbers had the same time 0-60 for the 996.1 and 996.2 6-speeds, and a 0.5 second 0-60 advantage for the 996.2 Tip (better torque + improved Tip).

Weight-related options are everything -- when comparing 996's, it has to be "apples to apples" on Cab/Coupe, Tip/6-speed, A2d/2wd -- my 2001 Tiptronic Carrera 4 coupe drove like a totally different car from my 2000 C2 6-speed Coupe.

Here are the weight differences for the 911's up until the 996's -- the fact that you have to go all the way back to mid-1980's to get a lighter 911 is what makes the 996 so special. The power-to-weight ratios tell the story on performance -- and the weight tells the story about the nimbleness of the 996. The 996 feels even lighter with the power steering. To me, the light weight of the 996 + power steering + double the horsepower, makes the 996 feel as light as the late 60's/early 70's 911's, but with all the creature comfort and performance of a modern car. Where do I sign? Oh wait, I already did. Twice. And the 6-speed 996.1 C2 coupe will never leave .


Weights (All models are manual, 2wd, coupes and weight "deltas" are versus 996.1):

911 SC (1978-1983) -> 2,756 lbs (-145 lbs) - 180-204 hp -- 15.3 lbs/hp to 13.5 lbs/hp

3.2 Carrera (1984-1988) -> 2,866 lbs (-35 lbs) – 217 hp, 195 ft-lb – 13.2 lbs/hp

964 (1989-1993) -> 3,031 lbs (+130 lbs) – 247 hp, 228 ft-lb – 12.3 lbs/hp

993 (1994-1998) -> 3,020 lbs (+119 lbs) – 272 hp, 243 fl-lb – 11.1 lbs/hp

996.1 (1998-2001) -> 2,901 lbs (reference weight) – 296 hp, 258 ft-lb – 9.8 lbs/hp

996.2 (2002-2004) -> 2,959 lb (+58 lbs) – 320 hp, 273 ft-lb – 9.25 lbs/hp

997.1 (2005-2008) -> 3,075 lbs (+174 lbs) – 325 hp, 273 ft-lb – 9.46 lbs/hp

997.2 (2009-2012) -> 3,186 lbs (+285 lbs) – 345 hp, 287 ft-lb – 9.23 lbs/hp


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Everyone should own a copy of the essential companion. It's an expensive book, but it will tell you everything you need to know about the 996 by year.

 

Or, 996.1 with a 3.8/4.0, and then there ya go

 

Don't know if the 996.2 is 58 lbs heavier than the 996.1 because of the glove box or not. It may be. 😀