New 996, been sitting for 5 years!
07-20-2017, 11:36 AM
#48
Thanks for the tips guys. I'm wondering now if the ancillary costs will make this a cost prohibitive project. I could get the rebuilt engine for $9k shipped to my door. But then I will want to add all new accessories as it goes back together. Starter, alternator etc. And then at the end of the day I have maybe $20k into a 2000 911 with 130k miles. Obviously new motor but I'm not sure its worth the effort and at that point what would it be worth?
07-20-2017, 12:15 PM
#49
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Thanks for the tips guys. I'm wondering now if the ancillary costs will make this a cost prohibitive project. I could get the rebuilt engine for $9k shipped to my door. But then I will want to add all new accessories as it goes back together. Starter, alternator etc. And then at the end of the day I have maybe $20k into a 2000 911 with 130k miles. Obviously new motor but I'm not sure its worth the effort and at that point what would it be worth?
07-20-2017, 12:49 PM
#50
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If it has 130K, you might just want to sell it as a roller. Or get some really inexpensive wheels, sell the wheels and tires separately and then sell it as a roller. You could easily have $20K into it, and a lot of your blood, sweat and tears. Or you could buy one ready to go today for $20K with less miles.
Best of luck. I thought you were really lucky, but it was just too good to be true.
Best of luck. I thought you were really lucky, but it was just too good to be true.
07-20-2017, 12:57 PM
#51
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Time is money, how much did you have budgeted for this project in the beginning? You're on a fine line with this one...
07-20-2017, 01:02 PM
#52
Burning Brakes
Thanks for the tips guys. I'm wondering now if the ancillary costs will make this a cost prohibitive project. I could get the rebuilt engine for $9k shipped to my door. But then I will want to add all new accessories as it goes back together. Starter, alternator etc. And then at the end of the day I have maybe $20k into a 2000 911 with 130k miles. Obviously new motor but I'm not sure its worth the effort and at that point what would it be worth?
If you fix the car up and enjoy it for years, then you got a helluva car for $20k, if you fix it up and try and sell it you'll probably be disappointed
07-20-2017, 01:59 PM
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07-20-2017, 02:51 PM
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I think you're going come out even or slightly ahead with your approach. Given how much these cars are worth, the risk of catastrophic failure, and higher running costs, you get underwater on these cars quickly. Only worth it if you willing to pay to play.
If I had to do it over again, I'd buy a roller, do a rebuild that addresses the known failure points, and just drive it. I'd probably be in it for $30K (I'm way over that with my current car btw), which is significantly over the value of the car. Couple of questions you have to ask yourself at this point:
1. What else is going to give this kind of experience at $30K? Probably also going to be an older German car.
2. You could cut bait and go buy a $15K runner. Could run forever, or could experience one of the 29 modes of failure and you're in the same predicament as now, except you started at a $15K cost point instead of $7K.
3. You buy something that's already had the failure points addressed (rare) - best bet is Stone Gate Autos - link in earlier post.
This is just the 996 NA. Argument could be made for just ponying up a bit extra $ (vs the $30K I mentioned) and getting a turbo, which is supposed be much more reliable.
Good luck either way. Suggest you go drive a running 996 if you haven't already, might explain why a lot of us a burning money to keep these running.
If I had to do it over again, I'd buy a roller, do a rebuild that addresses the known failure points, and just drive it. I'd probably be in it for $30K (I'm way over that with my current car btw), which is significantly over the value of the car. Couple of questions you have to ask yourself at this point:
1. What else is going to give this kind of experience at $30K? Probably also going to be an older German car.
2. You could cut bait and go buy a $15K runner. Could run forever, or could experience one of the 29 modes of failure and you're in the same predicament as now, except you started at a $15K cost point instead of $7K.
3. You buy something that's already had the failure points addressed (rare) - best bet is Stone Gate Autos - link in earlier post.
This is just the 996 NA. Argument could be made for just ponying up a bit extra $ (vs the $30K I mentioned) and getting a turbo, which is supposed be much more reliable.
Good luck either way. Suggest you go drive a running 996 if you haven't already, might explain why a lot of us a burning money to keep these running.
07-20-2017, 02:53 PM
#57
07-20-2017, 02:55 PM
#58
I think you're going come out even or slightly ahead with your approach. Given how much these cars are worth, the risk of catastrophic failure, and higher running costs, you get underwater on these cars quickly. Only worth it if you willing to pay to play.
If I had to do it over again, I'd buy a roller, do a rebuild that addresses the known failure points, and just drive it. I'd probably be in it for $30K (I'm way over that with my current car btw), which is significantly over the value of the car. Couple of questions you have to ask yourself at this point:
1. What else is going to give this kind of experience at $30K? Probably also going to be an older German car.
2. You could cut bait and go buy a $15K runner. Could run forever, or could experience one of the 29 modes of failure and you're in the same predicament as now, except you started at a $15K cost point instead of $7K.
3. You buy something that's already had the failure points addressed (rare) - best bet is Stone Gate Autos - link in earlier post.
This is just the 996 NA. Argument could be made for just ponying up a bit extra $ (vs the $30K I mentioned) and getting a turbo, which is supposed be much more reliable.
Good luck either way. Suggest you go drive a running 996 if you haven't already, might explain why a lot of us a burning money to keep these running.
If I had to do it over again, I'd buy a roller, do a rebuild that addresses the known failure points, and just drive it. I'd probably be in it for $30K (I'm way over that with my current car btw), which is significantly over the value of the car. Couple of questions you have to ask yourself at this point:
1. What else is going to give this kind of experience at $30K? Probably also going to be an older German car.
2. You could cut bait and go buy a $15K runner. Could run forever, or could experience one of the 29 modes of failure and you're in the same predicament as now, except you started at a $15K cost point instead of $7K.
3. You buy something that's already had the failure points addressed (rare) - best bet is Stone Gate Autos - link in earlier post.
This is just the 996 NA. Argument could be made for just ponying up a bit extra $ (vs the $30K I mentioned) and getting a turbo, which is supposed be much more reliable.
Good luck either way. Suggest you go drive a running 996 if you haven't already, might explain why a lot of us a burning money to keep these running.
I'm with you here. I paid so little for the car its still a good start for an engine swap. I'm looking into options for motors and can't get over the cost but at least a decent long block from most reputable builders has all major fail points addressed. I'm really wary of a used motor. I don't think people are all that honest and even if they don't think anything is wrong, my first oil change could prove otherwise.
07-20-2017, 02:57 PM
#59
Dropping and replacing the motor looks very straightforward, I think I could knock it out in a weekend easily.
