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Old 12-16-2020, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by XUR
What happens when you underprice a car? It gets FLIPPED for a quick profit because the rest of the market is not dumb:

https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1223671/page2
Sad to see a fellow Rennlister got short-changed.
$54.9 new asking is actually a fair price, maybe actually be a bit low now w/ the top end rebuild.
Old 12-16-2020, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by XUR
What happens when you underprice a car? It gets FLIPPED for a quick profit because the rest of the market is not dumb:

https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1223671/page2
Ouch, you called it too!
Old 12-31-2020, 01:40 PM
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https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto...253076215.html

Not cheap but looks like it's in good shape and had the top-end rebuild 4k miles ago.

Old 01-03-2021, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by gmorat
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto...253076215.html

Not cheap but looks like it's in good shape and had the top-end rebuild 4k miles ago.

True, but it's got these good characteristics:

53k original miles, 3 owners, Clean title no accident or damage reported.
All mechanical and electronics works with the car, AC blows cold and hot

-Engine top end rebuilt in 2017 (49k miles) (As you mentioned)
-Fister stage 3 exhaust
-GT2 wheel
-Bilstein HD shocks and ROW height
-Cocomats

Kept full service record since 2011, Have all the manual + 2 keys
Old 01-03-2021, 03:51 PM
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This car when originally listed on Craigslist started at 54 I believe....the owner must have changed his/her mind.
Old 01-04-2021, 03:49 PM
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Top End rebuilds as discussed many, many times are most of the time nothing more than opening up a clean long block. To add value to the car is short sighted on the overall picture. Not only “was” the block in question, but now you need to see who did the work. That’s a rabbit hole in itself.... Detracts value quite honestly for myself and known purveyors.

I’ve owned a few 993’s thus far in various state of tunes and not one has been opened up. Nothing to report other than the beauty of matching cosmo marks and no consumption between 3-5k changes (pending if a clubby or weekend warrior).
Old 01-04-2021, 04:05 PM
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Market seems a little thin these days? Not seeing much in the way of coupe out there.
Old 01-04-2021, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Trader220
Market seems a little thin these days? Not seeing much in the way of coupe out there.
This may be a seasonal thing. Large parts of the country have their cars locked away for winter.

I was considering selling my car but I came to the conclusion that I'd miss it and I wouldn't be able to buy another one like it but IF I had decided the other way, I can't imagine I would have listed it prior to late Feb/early March.

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https://mart.pca.org/ads/47825

Nice 50k mile Viola/Violet metallic for $100k on the PCA mart though!

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Old 01-04-2021, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by gmorat
https://mart.pca.org/ads/47825

Nice 50k mile Viola/Violet metallic for $100k on the PCA mart though!

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Man those seats look tired for 50k miles!
Old 01-04-2021, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gmorat
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto...253076215.html

Not cheap but looks like it's in good shape and had the top-end rebuild 4k miles ago.

GT2 Wheels? He means Cup II i assume.
Old 01-04-2021, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by andrewjn
This car when originally listed on Craigslist started at 54 I believe....the owner must have changed his/her mind.
Interesting. I had not come across the prior ad, although I was not looking closely.

I'm going to do my homework on this one but something seems "off" with a top end rebuild for a 95 (no SAI issue). Also, owner just purchased this car in early Dec based on CarFax.
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Originally Posted by Nam F
Interesting. I had not come across the prior ad, although I was not looking closely.

I'm going to do my homework on this one but something seems "off" with a top end rebuild for a 95 (no SAI issue). Also, owner just purchased this car in early Dec based on CarFax.

Top Ends Rebuilds have nothing to do with age or time since production. Re-Seals are different. Only time you'll take the top off is for a cam replacement, dropped valve, solid lifters, dropped spring, floating springs, missed shift (much more in depth), or the not so common oil consumption if ALL OTHER avenues for oil ingestion are ruled out. It's not known widely, but these guys are in need of knowledgable people to time also. Not your run of the mill dial and set it.....
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Originally Posted by Gbos1
Man those seats look tired for 50k miles!
a bit tired for 50 K, just my .02c....
Old 01-05-2021, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Sword_of_Spirit
Top Ends Rebuilds have nothing to do with age or time since production. Re-Seals are different. Only time you'll take the top off is for a cam replacement, dropped valve, solid lifters, dropped spring, floating springs, missed shift (much more in depth), or the not so common oil consumption if ALL OTHER avenues for oil ingestion are ruled out. It's not known widely, but these guys are in need of knowledgable people to time also. Not your run of the mill dial and set it.....
I will add that I have done a few reseals on 993 engines that reputable shops claimed needed a full top end. There are many shops that will argue that especially with the 993 8mm valves vs the earlier non v-ram engines or 964's with the 9mm valves that after 60k miles all these engines need new valves guides.

All I can say is in each case the engines needed a reseal which isn't cheap but after done tested perfectly on the mustang dyno to factory numbers, had impeccable leak down and compression numbers and did not burn any oil between changes. To this day still run without a weep never mind a leak of oil when done properly. BTW these were engines just north of 100k miles. IMO wait till a full rebuild is needed and just keep on top of the seals, unless damage was done and/or oil ingestion is an issue.


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