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curve lover 03-04-2014 01:26 AM

seats showcase: Recaro OEM hardback bucket sport shells- RS/ Speedster/ GT1/ GT2, etc
 
At the moment I have 445 photos on my computer of these ^^ factory racing seats.
Nothing productive may ever result from posting all those pics (read: do NOT encourage me :evilgrin:).

However, enthusiasts often seek me to locate these seats for them to buy.
Plus, yesterday a RLer posted that he likes to see them in lightweight cars instead of adjustable 993 Recaro hardback sports seats.

So, to be a functioning addict, maybe timing's good for listing current auctions to help RLers find rare seats. (I'll also include a couple of Recaro A8 listings, as they've been popular on RL recently.)

Please use this thread to post links to RS / Speedster Recaro OEM hardback bucket racing shells for sale, or share your own pics here if you need an RS accountability group :typing:

"RS" = Recovering Seat-a-holics ;)

curve lover 03-04-2014 01:30 AM

Ebay.de seller porschefreunde-baden-baden's "2 Schalensitze / Sportsitze Recaro Porsche 964 RS RSR Speedster 993 911" auction #271409865151; €5,799 (~$8,000 USD).

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timothymoffat 03-04-2014 01:33 AM

This thread will make me cry.

curve lover 03-04-2014 01:45 AM

"964 RSA"
 
:crying: I got tears of joy from the related photos you just sent ... as requested, I'll call soon :jumper:

Originally Posted by timothymoffat (Post 11184186)

This thread will make me cry.

Everyone, please welcome our newest member ^^ to RSA (Recovering Seat-a-holics Anonymous).
The first step is to admit you have a problem. Please introduce yourself & get comfortable -- I can tell you're going to be here a while :)

All are welcome: from junkies to members of 993 Smellerholics Anonymous!
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Seller Recarosecondhandshop's "911 PORSCHE 993 964 SPORTSITZ SCHALENSITZ LEDERSITZ SITZ SEAT RS" #270563358570; €2,249 for one seat (~$3,100 USD).

For better or worse, depending on what a buyer wants & the price they can afford:
The seller states the seat's been repainted. Its original authenticity can't be confirmed, so the seat's for sale at the price of a used replica.

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curve lover 03-04-2014 02:11 AM

With regards to replicas, one has to perform due diligence before possibly purchasing, as the safety standards may not be as stringent as those required for factory-installed seats.

Here are new aftermarket seats for sale, supplied by fsr-sportauto: "Porsche 911 964 993 RS Sitze Sportsitze TurboS Sport NGT M002 M003 Leder schwarz." Item #201034879202; €3,499 for both (~$4,830).

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Notice there's no 'Recaro' logo stamped into the back of the leather head-rest:

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curve lover 03-04-2014 02:25 AM

Hahn GFK produces these new aftermarket seats.

Contact them if you're interested in pricing & shipping specifics.

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curve lover 03-04-2014 02:34 AM

Back to OEM Porsche / Recaro seats --
With this auction, though, I may be a day late & a dollar short...

This listing closed yesterday, but if a buyer was a dollar short, then maybe the seller will re-list:

EBay.de seller nesrin20's "2 Recaro Schalensitze Porsche 911 964 993 RS Speedster Sitze Sportsitze Turbo S." Item #151237480496; €7,911 (~$10,911 USD).
Sold 'as is' at that price. The have some scuffs; the seller will refurbish them, but charges extra.

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curve lover 03-04-2014 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by curve lover (Post 11184171)

I'll also include a couple of Recaro A8 listings, as they've been popular on RL recently.)

FS by eBay.de's bmwcustom_js: "RECARO A8 Sitz Leder Sportsitz Schalensitz Porsche BMW VW Audi Rarität selten." Item #141192385560; €899 (~$1,240 USD).

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lopro 03-04-2014 10:22 AM

outstanding pics once again curve. Nice find.

I would be interested to know what the weight savings are VS a set of OE sport seats. Must be maaaahooosive

I love my PP's

Cupcar 03-04-2014 12:48 PM

I have owned factory Recaro 993/964 RS seats and Recaro Profi XL seats from Recaro and have compared them to factory 964 Recaro Speedster seats, Recaro Pole Position and SPG seats, all of which are similar in appearance.

Here are differences I note:

1. 964 Speedster seats have a trampoline like rubber spring under the main cushion and no crotch belt pass through hole, although there is a cut out for one in the velour lining inside the seat. There is a hole in the main cushion for a crotch belt too, but useless.

2. RS seats look same as Speedster seats but have a pad under the main cushion with a hole in it that allows pass through of a crotch belt. The fiberglass hole's edge for the belt is covered with basket weave snap mold like around the rear quarter window on early 911. The pad is removable allowing the driver to sit deeper in the seat if desired for headroom or support.

3. The SPG is the narrowest seat and the Profi XL and Pole are both wider by 35 mm for a bigger driver. A factory RS seat is approximately 20 mm wider than an SPG and 15 mm narrower than an XL or Pole.

4. Because of the intermediate width of the RS seat, the side plates have to be sourced from Porsche. Recaro make 2 separate side plates kits for either the SPG or XL/Pole.

5. The factory RS/Speedster seats have a unique pattern of stiffening ribs on the seat shell.

esses 03-04-2014 01:18 PM

They look like generic race seats. Hell glue a porsche crest on any sparco, omp, "insert name here" race seat and you've essentially got the same thing for thousands less. Flame away.

Cupcar 03-04-2014 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by esses (Post 11185119)
They look like generic race seats. Hell glue a porsche crest on any sparco, omp, "insert name here" race seat and you've essentially got the same thing for thousands less. Flame away.

No flame here, but what you say is absolutely true if you just want a seat to save weight and support better.

But that is not the only point to those who want only or collect factory stuff.

curve lover 03-04-2014 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by lopro (Post 11184669)

outstanding pics once again curve. Nice find.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by lopro (Post 11184669)

I would be interested to know what the weight savings are VS a set of OE sport seats. Must be maaaahooosive

I love my PP's

Speaking of lightweight seats, Pole Positions rock. Great value, quality, & looks.

Originally Posted by Cupcar (Post 11185039)

I have owned factory Recaro 993/964 RS seats and Recaro Profi XL seats from Recaro and have compared them to factory 964 Recaro Speedster seats, Recaro Pole Position and SPG seats.

Bob-- You simply making an appearance on this thread is a "full circle" event for me: of the dozens of threads about these OEM seats that I've bookmarked through the years, your posts of input & experience are often foundational throughout those forums.

Case in point: photos you've posted or commented on are many of the 445 Porsche racing shell pics I've saved to my hard drive. In short, I have you to blame ;) - er, thank - for my addiction! Great to hear from you :bowdown:

Originally Posted by esses (Post 11185119)

They look like generic race seats, essentially the same thing for thousands less. Flame away.

Scott-- The challenge is finding OEM seats at generic prices. This thread's intention is to help RLers find that, starting by posting anything & everything available.

I was originally planning to post only factory Recaro racing shell seats here, but added the replicas above once I realized they might help someone else (& their budget) out. Even replicas are so rare themselves that I bet some reading this thread are seeing them for the 1st time.

I was lucky to find a good deal on what was the 'holy grail' to me - OEM Porsche Recaro Speedster hardback bucket seats - but it took more patience, research, & time than I preferred. The ideal goal here's to shorten the process for those inspired to get OEM &/or period-correct, but needing a good value.

Nothing wrong with chasing the dream of finding OEM seats like these, if you or friends find them for thousands less...

RLer Bart's 993 RS:

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in 993 GT1:

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& in GT2:

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gonzilla 03-04-2014 03:08 PM

Damn. Nice thread Jäger. Thanks for your hard work!

curve lover 03-04-2014 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by gonzilla (Post 11185446)

Thanks for your hard work!

Mike-- RLers have done much to help me out; I'm glad to do anything that appears to help
...even if it's just a disguise for my addiction :roflmao:

Originally Posted by gonzilla (Post 11185446)

Damn. Nice thread Jäger.

I'm a fan of your damn nice A8s! Mind to post some pics of yours?
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EBay.de seller recarosecondhandshop's "NEU RECARO A8 SPORTSITZ SCHALENSITZ SPORT SAET PORSCHE."
Item #270522589644; €2,199 (~$3,025 USD) for 1 seat.

This is new old stock that was never installed: this single seat was only used for display.

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NP993 03-04-2014 06:25 PM

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These are in my car occasionally, but mostly sit in my closet....Speedster seats, I believe, as they only have five ribs in the shell and they have the trampoline under the bottom cushion.

curve lover 03-04-2014 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by NP993 (Post 11185988)

These are my Speedster seats.

Nice, Noah! The color inserts + white painted backs remind me of RLer CorrdoBrit's.
From the "Show me Your Seats" thread:

Originally Posted by curve lover (Post 7574944)

Originally advertised by RLer Group911@aol.com (Bob) for $6,500 USD, these picture-perfect seats are some of the most-revered :bowdown: on RL, & for good reason. Featured in RLer dromicnorris (Mark Norris)'s 993, recently brought home to the happy garage of CorrdoBrit. Congratulations!

Originally Posted by CorrdoBrit (Post 7572159)

Top of the list are the amazing Speedster seats. There's a reason why these attracted so much attention and discussion on the FS thread. To me these are the best seats I've been fortunate to sit in. I drove for 9 hours straight, just stopping once for gas, without a single ache or cramp.

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Originally Posted by timothymoffat (Post 7574955)

I hate this thread.:surr:


Mr. Moffat, this ^^ sounds like a recurring issue. Like to process through this with everyone?
Group hug? ;)

Originally Posted by timothymoffat (Post 11184186)

This thread will make me cry.


NP993 03-04-2014 07:32 PM

Yup, very similar. The backs were painted gray some years ago and unfortunately the Recaro date stickers were painted over. They also have the factory aluminum side mounts and (steel) sliders.

Frankly they're problematic seats to have in the car -- passengers don't really like them, and it is very easy to damage the bolsters getting in and out. So you end up saying to your friends, "please be careful of those bolsters," which is pretty lame.

curve lover 03-04-2014 08:10 PM

Makes sense ^^
Bolster practicality may benefit from vertical entry, versus ducking under a roof.
:) A good excuse to keep her topless...

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Nurburger 03-04-2014 09:11 PM

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If this thread is to become a resource for future buyers of some very expensive seats, it should be noted that the GenI Recaro A8 seats (as shown above) have serious design flaws with the lower cushion side supports. They break. They always break (unless you don't drive your car)....

Recaro issued the GenII with an improved/simplified bolster design that eliminated the previous issue by deleting the plastic side supports.

Here are some pics of the GenII A8's:

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Cupcar 03-05-2014 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by curve lover (Post 11185345)
Thanks!

Speaking of lightweight seats, Pole Positions rock. Great value, quality, & looks.

Bob-- You simply making an appearance on this thread is a "full circle" event for me: of the dozens of threads about these OEM seats that I've bookmarked through the years, your posts of input & experience are often foundational throughout those forums.

Case in point: photos you've posted or commented on are many of the 445 Porsche racing shell pics I've saved to my hard drive. In short, I have you to blame ;) - er, thank - for my addiction! Great to hear from you :bowdown:

Wow, thanks, glad my posts helped!!

curve lover 03-05-2014 05:33 PM

My pleasure, Bob ^^ Your posts were well worth your effort, IMHO.

If this thread is to become a resource for buyers, it needs more sellers. What you guys got?
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Ebayer losangelesdismantler's "Porsche 911 964 1994 Original Speedster Seats Rare Carrera RS Recaro." Item #310843687964; $8,500 USD.

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LPMM 03-12-2014 11:12 AM

Jager - Thanks for your research and for your help in my search. I am sure this thread will be helpful for anyone looking for period correct seats.

One thing regarding Herr Hahn... I was looking for a set of replicas and I reached out to him, however he replied that due to prior dealings with customs, he preferred not to ship to the US any longer.

In the spirit of the thread 1994 Speedster Seats from LA Dismantler with a BIN of $7,999.99

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Originally Posted by NP993 (Post 11186129)
Frankly they're problematic seats to have in the car -- passengers don't really like them, and it is very easy to damage the bolsters getting in and out. So you end up saying to your friends, "please be careful of those bolsters," which is pretty lame.

You could always remove and store the original leather covering and have another one made so that you could use the seats without any risk of damaging the original.

Group911@aol.com 03-15-2014 12:46 AM

Yep. My old seats. They started out as pretty nice original Speedster seats that I sold to Mark. Being Mark, he had to have them a perfect match and Speedsters didn't come in classic grey so after paying me a bunch for the seats, he sent them to probably the best shop in the country- Autoweave - and spent another fortune redoing them. After all that, he sold them back to me and that's when I advertised them at $6500. A couple months later, he called and had to have them back and then sold the whole car to corrdobrit.

Originally Posted by curve lover (Post 11186110)
Nice, Noah! The color inserts + white painted backs remind me of RLer CorrdoBrit's.
From the "Show me Your Seats" thread:

Mr. Moffat, this ^^ sounds like a recurring issue. Like to process through this with everyone?
Group hug? ;)


curve lover 03-16-2014 10:35 PM

Bob-- Agreed, RLer dromicnorris (Mark) was a perfectionist about his 993 & its seats.
What he wrote about 'em as his "1995 993, 23,000 mls, mint" for sale ad was overcome by seat awe & Pole Position/SPG questions:

Originally Posted by dromicnorris (Post 7508157)

As Bob mentioned in the last ad, I am beyond particular when it comes to my rare Porsche RS/Speedster seats re-covered flawlessly with original Porsche sourced leather, shells painted GP white, tracks re-powdercoated, custom Titanium hardware, ($8,000 invested) saves approx. 90lbs from stock leather power seats which are included with the car and are in very nice original condition.

Originally Posted by ilko (Post 7508160)

Love the the seats.

Originally Posted by bart1 (Post 7508269)

Sell me those seats. Now. I mean it. Seriously.

Originally Posted by 89826 (Post 7508294)

Boy those seats look nice.

Originally Posted by dromicnorris (Post 7508306)

Yes, but the best part (after the 90 lbs weight savings) is that they hold you in the car so much better so that you can grasp the steering wheel with a much lighter grip and steer the car. Plus they are so much more comfortable than the stock power seats.

Originally Posted by Macca (Post 7508344)

I'm very interested in your seats.

Originally Posted by Cactus (Post 7508326)

What would you sell the seats for?

Originally Posted by AtlJimK (Post 7508743)

Sport Seats = 4-5K

thus RS Seats = 8-9K.

Originally Posted by timothymoffat (Post 7508830)

Those seats are frickin awesome!

Originally Posted by vernon (Post 7509559)

the best seats that I have ever seen! and I have had these cars for 45 years.

Originally Posted by os993 (Post 7509630)

Those are Pole Position seats, right? Aren't they easy to obtain (and paint)?

Originally Posted by dromicnorris (Post 7509722)

These are the rare and correct Rennsport seats, used only in 964 RS, 993 RS and 1994 Speedsters. They have a special Porsche part number, are a different shape and design from Pole Positions, have a very unique under cushion spring/strap support for the cushions. They also have beautiful perforated leather alternating color cushions and full leather for the seats. PP's cost hundreds of dollars, these are $5,000 used before restoration. PP's make for wonderful seats though.

Originally Posted by dave morris (Post 7509877)

I had these in my 964 Cup. They are the best seat you can put in a Porsche IMHO.

Originally Posted by FisterD (Post 7509910)

I have seat lust.......

Originally Posted by bart1 (Post 7509925)

the RS and Speedster seats are different and it sounds like you have the more comfy Speedster versions.

Originally Posted by dromicnorris (Post 7509986)

Correct, these have the supports under the cushions, hence much more comfortable yet still very supportive and very light.


Originally Posted by Kmassed002 (Post 7538982)

these were not Pole Positions but rather Recaro SPGs... wouldn't be that expensive to recreate if you could get your hands on a used set...

Originally Posted by CorrdoBrit (Post 7539170)

Not SPG's. The bracing design on the seat backs is different and there's a 'trampoline' suspension system under the cushion.

Originally Posted by Flying Finn (Post 7539560)

Pole Positions & SPGs are great seats.
But they're not RS seats...




















Cupcar 03-17-2014 12:44 AM

My solution to problem for a full figured guy like me: Recaro Profi XL's reupholstered in Nappa leather by Autobahn Interiors with early 911 houndstooth fabric for center cushions. Very comfortable and secure for 250 pounder.

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curve lover 03-18-2014 07:14 PM

Bob ^^ Good idea!

Speaking of reupholstering:
Recaro Pole Positions recovered like Porsche RS / Speedster hardback sport bucket seats, with an embossed crest. They sold in London for ~£2,000 GBP (~$3,300 USD).

From the seller's eBay listing:

Originally Posted by eddstalbans

I had these seats custom made for me by Southbound Trimmers in early 2012. I purchased two Recaro Pole Position bucket seats new and had Southbound retrim the seats in Black OEM Porsche leather. The seats are replicas of the style of seats used in the 964/993RS models, with perforated cushions and centre stitching. In addition they are embossed with the Porsche crest at the centre of the upper seat. These really are well made, by craftsman, by hand. The best quality leather work you will find anywhere, makes any car feel that more special. The seats are in very good condition as they are only a year or so old, I can see no obvious marks, tears or scuffing. They have been well looked after by myself and kept clean and protected as instructed by Southbound. The seats also come with Southbounds own custom side mounts and Recaro runners, all you need to fit is to swap over seat belt fasteners and bolt in. These seat will fit most air cooled 911's and 944's, 924's and 968's. They may also fit other models. These seats will cost over £3000 if custom built for you by Southbound. Due to size of items this is for pick up only. I am based in London N8.

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FWIW, panel behind each shoulder is stitched differently from OEM ^^

koenig_roland 03-26-2014 09:36 AM

here are my new Hahn`s RS-clone seats.

I`m very happy with the seats. The just replaced my SPG`s, but - i`m seating to high. Compared to the SPG`s, we talk about 5cm... that`s a lot. At the moment, i drive without the cushion...

I`ll try to get a thinner cushion. Curr back-cushion is about 5.8cm thick - i like one with just one centimeter...

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P-track 03-26-2014 03:51 PM

They look very good, how is the quality of the leather and details? Care to share the total cost for these seats? Thanks

koenig_roland 03-26-2014 04:28 PM

@p-track
quality seems to be very good. The details (stiching for example) are perfekt. The only thing is the seat-height...

Costs: The seats are not directly from hahn, but my mechanic has his workshop only 10km from hahn away and they are buddies... I got the seats from my mechanic plus a new 964 RS suspension on top, new carpets, new RS-rear glas... Round about, i think the seats were at round about 1k€ per seat...

clinchy993 03-26-2014 06:29 PM

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trophy 03-26-2014 06:54 PM

This thread makes me :grr:

Back in 1996 I had 2 sets or original RS seats out of a couple RSCS's that were run in Porsche Cup in Australia. I paid less than $1500 for both pairs. They were essentially brand new as they were pulled from the car and replaced with proper CF race seats. I put one pair in a car I had and kept the others in storage.

I ended up selling the car, pulling the seats out and sold both pair for $1000 each..... To think if I had only kept them I could have retired :crying:

LPMM 04-23-2014 03:55 PM

Listed again 2 Recaro Porsche 993, Speedster, Turbo Sitze Schalensitze Sportsitze 911 TT

Price:EUR 7,911.00
Approximately US $10,914.41

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nr1416 04-23-2014 04:42 PM

Man those RS seats kill me, SO MUCH WANT

RSAErick 04-23-2014 04:47 PM

Super cool!

Questions for the seat gurus:
1. How do you thread the factory seat belts through the side-hole in these buckets?
2. How do you attach the factory seat belt receptacle to the seat/rails?


Thanks!

curve lover 04-27-2014 01:30 AM

From the RL Classifieds:
u7t2p7's "964 OEM Speedster Seats:"


Originally Posted by u7t2p7 (Post 11315049)

Category: Accessories
Price: $6500
Private or Vendor Listing: Private Listing
Part fits (select ONLY those which apply): 964, 993
Location (Region): NorthEast
Item Condition: Used

Porsche 964 OEM Speedster Seats. Black/White. Uber rare. Overall good condition. Complete with brackets. Made by Recaro for Porsche. Can also be used for 993. Very similar but slightly different construction to 964RS/993RS seats. I looked for 5 years before finding these seats. Would benefit from a good cleaning/conditioning before installing but otherwise in great shape. Stored in Hoboken, NJ area. $6,500 firm. Prefer local pick up so seats can be examined in person to properly manage expectations but will consider shipping.

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Sole_ 05-20-2014 11:24 PM

Hey,

Selling my Recaro A8s Version 2s.

Back story:
I bought a set of Recaro A8s. One seat was a Version 2 and the other was a Version 1. To convert the Version 1 into a V2 I had to buy a spare Recaro SRD seat and swap the bottom and replace the bottom of the V1 to turn it into a V2. After I finished that little project, I got the seat reupholstered at a shop called New Image Interior and got them to reupholster the seats in Black leather and White Recaro Stitching. One seat was back was previously painted Silver and I left it like that and one is factory Black.

My asking price is $3800 obo. You guy's know how rare these seats are. If you're interested please PM me or email me at geraldbautista26@hotmail.ca

Enough talk, here are the pictures:
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8106/...e0e75a27_b.jpgRecaro A8 by Bautista26, on Flickr
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8510/...d666722f_b.jpgRecaro A8 by Bautista26, on Flickr
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8386/...70c51b35_b.jpgRecaro A8 by Bautista26, on Flickr

LPMM 06-10-2014 08:01 PM

Ebay listing: Pair Porsche leather bucket Seats Recaro Carrera 964RS Triple Blue Sportsitze

Original triple leather blue hardback bucket seats.
Porsche RS Basic Lightweight.
Starting bid: £6,000.00 [ 0 bids ]

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adrian034 07-15-2014 05:39 PM

seat brackets
 
Does anyone know where I can get the bracket and slider for the oem speedster recaro seats? I have a pair of these and would like to use them in my 964 but when I bought them, they didn't come with the mounting hardware.

Cupcar 07-15-2014 06:07 PM

I have a set of sliders PM me.

curve lover 07-31-2014 02:31 PM

Cool to see everyone posting rare seats :thumbsup:

Originally Posted by trophy (Post 11245885)

I had 2 sets of original RS seats. They were essentially brand new kept in storage.

I ended up selling both pair for $1000 each..... To think if I had only kept them I could have retired :crying:

Steven-- "Parting is such sweet sorrow" :banghead:
Retirement is idle time for many, but I bet for you: more time for racing :jumper:

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From GermanSportsCars.net's "RECAORO A8, legendary seat from the RUF CTR 1 or the AUDI RS 2:"

Originally Posted by Thomas Josef Schmitz


gonzilla 07-31-2014 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by curve lover (Post 11544430)
"VERY RARE RECARO A 8 SEATS - ALMOST LIKE NEW !!!

ICONS USED FOR THE RUF YELLOWBIRD OR AUDI RS 2

FULL BLACK LEATHER

SEAT RUNNER FOR PORSCHE

2 SEATS = 1 SET

LAST PRODUCTION YEAR

PRICE : 5500 EURO" ~$7,400 USD

3 things:

1. I've never seen a picture of a set of A8s in Yellowbird. And while I've seen pictures of a RS2 with A8s, I'm pretty sure they came stock with different Recaro seats. Maybe A8s were optional?
2. I don't think these could have possible been the last production year as they have the earlier (easily cracked) series 1 bases before they changed to the SRD base.
3. Damn. These have gotten expensive.

azander 07-31-2014 06:27 PM

Are 993 Clubsport seats just Recaro SPGs like the 964 N/GT? Does anyone have the PET for these?

Cupcar 07-31-2014 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by azander (Post 11544954)
Are 993 Clubsport seats just Recaro SPGs like the 964 N/GT? Does anyone have the PET for these?

Yes. Not in PET 951.521.001.01

azander 07-31-2014 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by Cupcar (Post 11545112)
Yes. Not in PET 951.521.001.01

Cupcar, thanks. I'm sending you a PM.

curve lover 08-18-2014 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by gonzilla (Post 11544936)

Damn. expensive.

"PORSCHE GENUINE RECARO BUCKET SPEEDSTER LIGHTWEIGHT SEATS" F.S. by eBayer '9552.ms;' item #271456189875.

$15,500 USD.

No mention if price includes the shoe ;)

Originally Posted by 9552.ms

VERY, VERY RARE. Recaro Factory Stickers attached. Made for a Specific 1994 Speedster.

YOU MAY NEVER FIND THEM AGAIN.

THEy shall never get cheaper. Blue Chip Investment

two witout the stickers just went to Germany well over $10K each set.I have located another one: the owner has refused to sell them to me for any money, no kidding.

31 LB each.

I AM ENJOYING THEM ON MY AMERICA ROADSTER AT THE PRESENT TIME

I HAVE MORE AMERICA ROADSTER PARTS

Can you find another set for any price, higher or lower? Two years ago they were being sold below $4000-. Todd from the LA Dismantler Just sold two sets for $9K and $10K.

One year ago Todd sold a 1994 Speedster with the Factory Aluminum Hood and a Double Pipe Exhaust for $54K to France. An everage not so special 1994 Speedster on eBay has a bid NOW over $110K, and the reserve is not met.

I predict these seats in one year shall cost over $20K and a Speedster over $200K

I'll give you a $1 if it does not happen...and if it does , you'll give me $2-


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FWIW, in subdued 'white on white' text, the seller covertly states:

Originally Posted by 9552.ms

tTHEY wotw

1994 964 911 Speedster Sport Buckets RS Turbo OEM Recaro Black Leather

Here is a oportunity to get your hands on some original and authentic 1994 911 Speedster Sport Bucket seats. These rare seats were offered and optioned on a select few Speedsters only in 1994. These are original unrefinished seats are in good used condition. The black leather is a little dry but free of any holes, rips or major defects. They show appropriate but not excessive wear for a pair of 20 year old seats. These lightweight seats are an excellent upgrade for your air cooled Porsche. These will bolt right into any 1975-1998 Porsche 911.rade for your air cooled Porsche. These will bolt right into any 1975-1998 Porsche 911.

Call us at 818-767-7243 if you have any questions.

Please note: Although our research team is working hard to provide accurate part numbers and descriptions, it is the buyer's responsibility to confirm fitment. Please double check before making a purchase on any parts or models that are different than specified in the descriptions.

Contact us anytime if you have questions, need more picture, or are simply are unsure of whether this part will fit the year, make, or model of the vehicle.

All our items are marked and sealed with security labels to prevent fraud

1994 964 911 Speedster Sport Buckets RS Turbo OEM Recaro Black Leather

Here is a oportunity to get your hands on some original and authentic 1994 911 Speedster Sport Bucket seats. These rare seats were offered and optioned on a select few Speedsters only in 1994. These are original unrefinished seats are in good used condition. The black leather is a little dry but free of any holes, rips or major defects. They show appropriate but not excessive wear for a pair of 20 year old seats. These lightweight seats are an excellent upgrade for your air cooled Porsche. These will bolt right into any 1975-1998 Porsche 911.rade for your air cooled Porsche. These will bolt right into any 1975-1998 Porsche 911.

Call us at 818-767-7243 if you have a


curve lover 08-26-2014 11:13 PM

"For Sale: Very Rare Porsche 1992 Euro Carrera RS leather OEM Recaro bucket seats" on Pelican Parts Forum.

Originally Posted by kycarguy 935

There were not many of these ROW Carrera RS’s made and never imported to the U.S. They were unavailable here.

The price is firm and they are $7,750 for the pair plus shipping. Shipping to California with $8,000 insurance was around $500. Would be less the closer to Kentucky/Ohio you are. The Uhaul wardrobe boxes cost about $12.00 each for shipping. They can always be picked up in North East Kentucky if you are in driving distance. I am about 3 hours from Cincinnati, Ohio and 2 and a half from Columbus, Ohio. Thanks...


NP993 08-27-2014 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by curve lover (Post 11583936)
"PORSCHE GENUINE RECARO BUCKET SPEEDSTER LIGHTWEIGHT SEATS" F.S. by eBayer '9552.ms;' item #271456189875.

$15,500 USD.

That seems insane. I have the exact same seats, except they're in much better condition and have the two-tone gray center panels. $15K? No way. $5K maybe.

curve lover 01-03-2015 02:28 AM


Originally Posted by NP993 (Post 11605099)

$15K? No way. $5K maybe.

Noah-- Can't make this stuff up: I just clicked on the auction's link
...it now reads $18,900 USD 'Buy It Now' price.

I knew eBay prices could be lowered; raising them's a new thing to me!

That makes these look affordable at ~$5,925 USD...
GermanSportsCars.net's "PORSCHE 964 / 993 BUCKET SEATS WITH BLACK LEATHER UPHOLSTER:"

curve lover 01-03-2015 02:45 PM

Border brand seats may be an option for some.
As seen on Macca's car, & recently ordered by Kiwi Carguy:

Originally Posted by Macca (Post 7909531)

I have been very happy with the outcome...

Border CF backed SP5 recaro style bucket seats trimmed in classic grey leather with contrast silver grey stitching including generic slider system and side brackets. These were relatively cheap and they are suited to a slightly larger driver than the Recaro PP and their kin, good for someone up to 6'2" and100kg (220lb). Slightly wider base while remaining fairly upright and with a shoulder forward driving postion. I was very lucky with these, when I got into them they felt like a glove with my hands, seat and shoulders being optimally positioned. Possibly just lucky. Very light weighing 10kg less including brackets and sliders than my previous sport seats they were good for a afir weight saving too. Cheap at 1300 usd landed airfeight (in full standard black leather), they are one of the better quality seats available of their type weighing 7.3kg seats only with real CF shell. The feel rock solid firm with little/no flex when installed. Ridged and strong the workmanship is at least 8/10. You can order suede type inserts (which I will be doing shortly in grey). Havent figured out how to mount my extingusher and bracket yet (saving a further 3kg+!). Border I believe also make a line called "bride" used in the Jap tuner circles. They are a Taiwanese company and excellent to deal with (Chloe their sales girl has excellent english and is very helpful). They make an FIA approved SP4 (slighy smaller base) for an extra 2-300usd. You sit nice and snug in these seats, they give extra feedback form the engine and transmission and you honestly feel like drivig faster in them - the car just seems so much more "chuckable"! I loved the two 35 minute stints I did in them. The only thing I would say is that for trips of 1 hour plus they could become less comfortable given they dont have lumber supports build in like comfort seats. They are also a little harder to get in and out of!

Enjoy the pics.

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Originally Posted by Kiwi Carguy (Post 11917776)

So now that I have the seats in I thought I'd post up my thoughts on them.

I originally bought these seats because Macca has them in his 993 so I have seen them in the flesh, sat in them, know the finish etc and they were well priced. The other reason is that they are period correct for the car.

Overall the experience was good. Dealing with Border was a little difficult at times due to the language differences etc and I honestly wasn't entirely sure I was going to get what I had ordered until I had opened the boxes despite trying very hard to be as clear as possible. Thankfully I did! For example in the end I was only charged for one set of suede inserts instead of two as they thought I only wanted them for one seat?! So be really clear with your communications, I even provided photoshopped pictures with arrows etc!

For the price they are great seats. Mine are not "flawless" and below is pics of a few "blemishes" although you would only spot them if you were looking for imperfections.

1) The carbon weave in the odd place has moved so the thread isn't straight. Again you probably wouldn't notice this unless you had the seats out and inspecting them.

2) There is one small section around 10-15mm where the stitching isn't tight.

3) The stitching where your shoulder blades are appears to be quite tight and "pulling". I emailed Border and this was their response.... Dear James, It is normal, don’t worry :)

Other than that they look great. The items above would only bother you if you are a Virgo :p That is the only downside of buying offshore that it is very difficult for the company to provide a resolution if something isn't right.

Now Macca paid circa $1800 for his a few years back. Since then they have increased the cost of the seats and the sliders and rails are now extra too. My seats cost in total $2972.05 NZD all up including gst, customs, freight etc. That was for two seats, rails, sliders and a second set of suede inserts. Gst, customs, duty etc was $375.44

So a lot more than Macca paid and I'd had hoped to have more left over from my sports seat sale to fund some more mods. Some of this would have been due to the exchange rate as well.

Overall they are a great seat and look good in the car. I've shed some weight and the interior looks "new" again. The seats will also provide me with more support than the Sport Seats Sofas.


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Originally Posted by Kiwi Carguy (Post 11917821)

More pics...

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Originally Posted by Macca (Post 11918008)

James. Looks good. If any consolation my CF weave is a bit squiffy around the same spot. I looked at a set of Recaro PP in CF (rare) in a race car at Rennsport Motorsport Weekend in Sydney last may and it seemed teh CF was off in places too. I think its pretty hard to use single sheets of CF with shapes like this without nip and tuck and some movement of the fabric during the wet lay process.

The stitching you show left and right on the fronts where you back goes is the same as mine. Its not as obvious on mine because they classic grey. I thought the leather looked stressed there and would tear eventually but after 3 years, 20,000km and lots of track and road work they look exactly the same as they did when delivered in that area so it must just be the way they finish off the stitching there (tension for strength and tying off etc).

They arent perfect but they are very light, comfortable especially for a taller driver, have the benefit of being sized to suit a larger waist/ass not an Italian midget racing driver like the Recaro PPs and at least they were good value back at the time I ordered them when the sliders and side mounts were included in the price. I did pay extra for some alacantera inserts to be made (slightly thicker quab) and shipped a few months after receiving the seats. Im gald I did that as I have the original inserts sitting new as spares and the alcantara ones have worn well and been comfy.

At 3000 NZD they are "fair value" I think (by way of contrast black leather Recaro PPs, with side mounts and sliders landed would probably be over 5K with GST etc. However I concede they arent the bargain they were when I bought them...

Originally Posted by Kiwi Carguy (Post 11918024)

Ahh interesting I didn't realise you got the inserts after. I agree with the CF laying and it didn't bother me. Just trying to give a fair evaluation of them for anyone reading and considering buying. Honestly you only really notice when they are out of the car. Funny your comments about fit as I am a "medium" sized guy and mine fight from on me, even Annette commented on the size/fit.

The link to Border seats is here http://www.border.com.tw/admin/produ...p?id=45&upid=3

At the end of the day I doubt you would find a set that meets the same criteria for less $$.






curve lover 03-04-2015 12:08 AM

A friend just PMed, looking for Porsche OEM RS / Speedster Recaro painted hardback sport bucket seats.

If anyone knows of any for sale that aren't posted here, please post (or send me a PM if you prefer).

He said he's familiar with everything on eBay.de, which is where I found these:
"2 x Recaro Schalensitz Porsche 911 964 RS Sitz Original" FS by eBayer celline69, item #301517643459.

EUR 12.000,00 (~$13,500 USD):

Originally Posted by eBay's celline69


FrenchToast 03-04-2015 12:19 AM

New tricks for an old dog?

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I'm not sure about those.....

curve lover 03-09-2015 01:36 AM

Holy wow ^^ didn't even notice the seats' significance at first.

What a makeover!
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curve lover 03-09-2015 01:47 AM



A friend just PMed, looking for Porsche OEM RS / Speedster Recaro painted hardback sport bucket seats.

If anyone knows of any for sale that aren't posted here, please post (or send me a PM if you prefer).

He said he's familiar with everything on eBay.de, which is where I found these:
"Porsche 911 964 Carrera RS Sitze Sportsitze Leder schwarz" FS by eBayer vw-box, item #111601957493.

EUR 5.999,95 (~$6,565 USD). Damage in the last photo makes these cheaper ...a relative term :icon501:

Originally Posted by eBay's vw-box

Die Sitze stammen aus einem BJ 1992 Porsche 911 / 964 RS. Sie sind in einem guten, aber gebrauchten Zustand. Ultraleicht und ein muss für den sportliuch ambitionierten Fahrer. Eine kleine Beschädigung im Bezug, siehe Bild 4. Leider sind die originalen Aufkleber nicht mehr vorhanden, nur noch ein Bild davon vom Vorbesitzer. Gebrauchsspuren an den Sitzschalen, sonst super erhalten.

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dlee888 03-09-2015 08:41 PM

What an amazing compilation of reference photos!!!! Thank you so much for sharing! :)

curve lover 03-10-2015 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by dlee888 (Post 12104966)

amazing compilation of reference photos!!!! :)

One of the most amazing seats I've seen had custom houndstooth inserts :thumbup:

Hopefully others will pitch in to help a RLer friend who's looking for a set.
His 1st choice is black with grey centers, as seen in this 964 Speedster, but the seller wants $329,000 for them :icon501:
P.S. You've got a PM https://rennlist.com/forums/images/editor/email.gif

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curve lover 03-13-2015 03:06 PM

FS- Genuine 964RS/993RS Seats-Hard shell made by Recaro, unobtanium! $6,000
 

Originally Posted by curve lover (Post 12088081)

A friend just PMed, looking for Porsche OEM RS / Speedster Recaro painted hardback sport bucket seats.

I texted him about the following:

Posted today on PelicanParts.com's 'Porsche 911 Used Parts For Sale & Wanted' forum: "FS- Genuine 964RS/993RS Seats-Hard shell made by Recaro, unobtanium! $6,000"
by seller cvlcporsche
...AKA, RLer Nathan1...

Originally Posted by nathan1 (Post 12116183)
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Its extremely painful for me to do this but I have decided to part with my set of OEM 964RS/993RS Seats. I have two sets (other set I am keeping) and this set has been stored in my attic out of the car since 1999. These were purchased new directly through Porsche parts and were installed in my 3.8 liter M491 car. Back in 1997 these seats were ~$10k from the dealer. They are correct for the 964RS or 993RS, they look the same as the 964 Speedster seats, however they do not have the trampoline bases those seats have.

The leather is in perfect shape, they have maybe 5,000 miles of seat time on them. They were originally all black center cushions however when they were removed a well known dealer (who shall remain nameless, still mad...) lost the lower cushions, so I no longer have the OEM perforated leather cushions. I do have a set of Recaro cushions but to be perfect they need to be covered in the perforated leather to match the upper cushions. The stickers are also not present on the bottoms of the seats, for whatever reason they were removed when the seats were installed. There are some minor scratches on the backrests from years of storage. I would call the seats a 8/10 for condition. Due to the few issues mentioned above I am selling the seats for $6k USD, I know what a pristine set brings so these are a great deal and allows someone to paint the backs to match their car and do the center cushions in whatever material/color them wish.

Price- $6k USD + Paypal fees + actual shipping costs

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kkswow12 03-13-2015 03:22 PM

wow, and, wow

clinchy993 03-15-2015 05:28 AM

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Going to Spa for a TD next weekend, so I have robbed the PP from my 964 to go in the 993 :icon107: going to look odd in a light grey/ blue cabin :burnout:

Pics later

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curve lover 03-18-2015 11:59 PM

^^ Can't wait to see your SPA 993 pics :jumper:

P.S. From the bum imprint: LOTS of forward acceleration in your 964 :burnout:


VERY RARE RECARO A 8 SEATS

PRICE : 5500 EURO" ~$7,400 USD

Originally Posted by gonzilla (Post 11544936)

Damn. These have gotten expensive.


Every few months, Recaro does a heritage write-up of a past achievement.

Their pricing is understated ...but technically correct:

Originally Posted by Recaro.com

Treasures from our past - May 2014

Celebrating of the RECARO seat the “A8”

The basis for the development of a new RECARO seat in the late 1980s was the seat study “Sylam A8.” The system laminate “Sylam” developed by KEIPER RECARO allowed high-strength plastics to be connected with metal parts in production. The study ultimately resulted in the “A8,” with which the method was first applied in series. The model, which was named after the autobahn A8 leading to Kirchheim/Teck, featured an attractive design. It was the world’s first seat with a backrest made of fiberglass-reinforced plastic. What made it special: The shell was self-supporting and
produced using injection molding. Only the backrest mounting support and adjusters as well as the connection to the seat rail were made of metal.

RECARO offered customers the option of personalizing the design of the seat: The backrest and seat could be ordered in Metallic Silver or understated Black. The upholstery was available in Black-Grey, Black-Color, fabric, or leather. If the right choice was still not found among this large variety, custom paint jobs and upholsteries could also be chosen. In this way it also came to pass that an “A8” in Pink-Violet was exhibited for the premiere of seat at the RECARO booth at the IAA 1989. The cover typical for the seat with the RECARO logo on the backrest was more of a last resort: The backrest unlocking device was originally slated to be attached at this point, but this idea did not prevail.

Even today, the “A8” is a coveted collector’s item: Well-maintained seats often sell for more than 1,000 euros each.

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Mikke_Possu 03-19-2015 04:31 AM

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Thanks Jäger for A8 post. Really interesting to read the stories of these old seats.

I have used my A8 seats for two years now and I have to admit that they are really comfortable and provide great support. They are also very light.

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Foxman 03-19-2015 02:40 PM

Wow, those A8's with the red backs look incredible! Thanks for posting. :thumbup:

curve lover 04-05-2015 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by Foxman (Post 12132929)

A8s with red backs look incredible!

+1 ^^

Originally Posted by Mikke_Possu (Post 12131789)

Thanks Jäger for A8 post. Really interesting to read the stories of these old seats.

my A8s are really comfortable and provide great support. They are also very light.

Mikke-- Glad you liked Recaro's write-up, sir.
I got to enjoy a RLer's A8s yesterday in his 993TT (with new rebuilt engine & larger turbos) :jumper:
BTW, LUV your 964 :bowdown:

Originally Posted by Mikke_Possu (Post 10860726)


curve lover 04-05-2015 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by curve lover

got to enjoy a RLer's A8s yesterday in his 993TT

Another RLer at the same event ^^ had these Recaro Sportsters in his 993.

They seem like a great solution for anyone interested in RS/Speedster/GT1/GT2 or Pole Position seats, with a bonus: adjustable seatbacks!

Anyone else familiar with them or seen them in a 993?

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...53663f24db.jpg

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...781e023054.jpg

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...46f55559c7.jpg

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...afa99420d2.jpg

Foxman 04-05-2015 10:29 PM

Here's a link to Recaro's Sportster CS seats in english. Sweet! https://www.recaro-automotive.com/us...rtster-cs.html

curve lover 04-07-2015 12:42 AM

Jim ^^ Das ist gut!
________________________________________________________________________

Today a RLer told me he's tempted to sell his OEM 993 hardback sports seats for RS / Speedster seats.

A half-way solution:

Ebay.de's "1 x Recaro Schalensitz für Porsche 964 RS und 911 RSR Sportsitz Leder" FS by 'porschefreunde-baden-baden' for €4,999 (~$5,500 USD); item #271828161719:
^^ Nice background in that last shot, huh?

spdklz 04-07-2015 02:35 AM

Hey thats me!
 
I have been pondering that for a bit now.

I saw that speed yellow no moon roof 993 RS at the porsche corral Laguna Seca 2010 with matter cage and the 993 rs seats painted to match…amazing!

Saw your 993 speedster with a 964 speedster and a raw 550a spyder out side the vip tent. What a weekend that was.

I would have a hard time parting with the correct seats to my car. Bless the guy who ordered my car right.
PTS, sport seats, mo30/ and with limited slip and on a narrow body C4!

Wish we could have hooked up at cars and coffee to chat Jager!

Best regards, Dustin

Spyder_Man 04-07-2015 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by curve lover (Post 12181565)
Another RLer at the same event ^^ had these Recaro Sportsters in his 993.

They seem like a great solution for anyone interested in RS/Speedster/GT1/GT2 or Pole Position seats, with a bonus: adjustable seatbacks!

Anyone else familiar with them or seen them in a 993?

I'd love to get a set of those Recaro Sportsters in my NB 993 coupe. I'd likely get the backs painted body color and the center seat panels in matching red to my OEM interior leather too.

http://www.northamericanmotoring.com...ck-photo-1.jpg

or

http://www.quattroworld.com/wp-conte.../05/32A-36.jpg

If I only had a small fortune to devote to the slippery slope!

moacur 04-07-2015 06:11 PM

Great thread :thumbsup: I've got a pair of Sportster CS seats in my 997TT. Absolutely love them!


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...068977eb28.jpg

curve lover 04-26-2015 12:58 PM

Jeff ^^ Besides your great seats in a great car, the lighting of your interior pic's perfect. Nicely done!

Originally Posted by spdklz (Post 12184896)

I saw at Laguna Seca your 993 speedster with a 964 speedster.

You're bringing back happy memories! From the the PCA Heritage Showcase on 'Porsche Island:'

https://rennlist.com/forums/attachme...speedlarge.jpg
^^Photography by RLer C4SDave

Originally Posted by spdklz (Post 12184896)

I saw your 993 speedster and a raw 550a spyder outside the vip tent. What a weekend that was.

My first Monterey experience with Porsches & RLers. Met many new friends there.

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2...rikdsc4028.jpg
^^Photography by RLer EB847

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...639cef816f.jpg

Originally Posted by spdklz (Post 12184896)

Wish we could have hooked up at cars and coffee to chat Jager!

We'll make it happen :rockon:

Originally Posted by spdklz (Post 12184896)

Bless the guy who ordered my car right.
PTS, sport seats, mo30/ and with limited slip and on a narrow body C4!

+1^^ Pics don'ts lie:

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0564e54540.jpg
^^ By flickr.com's chuckrim

Originally Posted by spdklz (Post 12184896)

Hey thats me!

Yep!

Originally Posted by curve lover (Post 9847135)

^^ By flickr.com's david hernandez

curve lover 04-29-2015 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by curve lover (Post 12180579)
I got to enjoy a RLer's A8s yesterday in his 993TT (with new rebuilt engine & larger turbos) :jumper:

These 'uns heah:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4fff95719d.jpg

Cupcar 04-29-2015 01:54 PM

My Recaro Profi XL seats finally installed and I have driven with them.

Tall sides make them difficult to get in an out of for me.

I must say though, for a guy of my corpulent stature, these seats are MUCH more comfortable and supportive than my factory RS seats were.

Not only are they wider, but a major reason for the improved comfort (and safety) is that the shoulder belts don't come in below my shoulders as they do with Recaro Pole or factory RS seat.

51 pounds lighter than stock, standard seats.

Mounting hardware is from the Recaro catalog.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...350094b457.jpg

spdklz 05-01-2015 02:07 AM

thank you!!!
 
Older pics before the glass out respray, head lamp washers were welded up!

Thanks for Posting Jager :)

Spyder_Man 05-01-2015 03:05 AM

There is a lone Recaro A8 for sale on Fleabay: linked here

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...1d9ffd4e04.jpg

Located in Thailand of all places...

GeorgeK 05-01-2015 09:27 AM

Possible additional source: the 968 CS had the same seats as the 964 RS, with a 944 part number. Same seat, different label. Had both, zero difference.

GeorgeK 05-01-2015 02:48 PM

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Something else from my stash, super rare, a factory GT1 race seat.

911F1 05-01-2015 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by Foxman (Post 12181702)
Here's a link to Recaro's Sportster CS seats in english. Sweet! https://www.recaro-automotive.com/us...rtster-cs.html

Does anyone know the retail price on the Sportster CS seats?

Spyder_Man 05-01-2015 07:31 PM

Take a look at Vivid Racing for some prices. The price depends on the upholstering material, but leather ones are north of $2k per seat (probably closer to $2.5k each).

JET951 05-02-2015 11:02 PM

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Hi Guys,
Im in need of a little help. About 10 years ago i bought a pair of 968 CS cloth seats with the trampoline from a customer here in Australia. The customer converted his CS to a 2+2 with leather standard seats. Now 2 owners on the now owner wished to purchase the seats back from to to complete his CS back to standard. What is a fair price for them. Rated at 7.5-8 out of 10.
Here is a picture
Regards
Sean

ilko 05-12-2015 06:19 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Not sure if I've mentioned this, but I upgraded my office couch to a 2-seater... Eventually they are supposed to find their way in my newly acquired 964...

Attachment 1237179

Attachment 1237180

Cactus 05-12-2015 09:44 PM

^^WTF?^^

gonzilla 05-12-2015 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by Cactus (Post 12277291)
^^WTF?^^

+1.

curve lover 05-12-2015 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by Cactus (Post 12277291)

WTF?

Originally Posted by gonzilla (Post 12277467)

+1.


Ilko-- SO much wrong in that post, sir :roflmao:
One does not simply forget to mention such pristine seats!
...or hesitate to install them!
...or tease about his 'new' 964 without pics!

Luckily, though, all is righted thanks to your new "I'm back" thread on the 964 Forum.

BTW: I bet RLer PorscheZen (Edmund) approves :thumbsup:

Originally Posted by ilko (Post 12265844)

I've always wanted to own a white car and now I have it...

1990 Carrera 2.

I have a set of OEM 964 Speedster seats painted white.

I'm taking a very slow approach since the car is going to stay in CA until Fall.


Originally Posted by nathan1 (Post 12266309)

There is nothing better than a white 964 with 964RS seats in it.


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2473cd42c9.jpg

curve lover 08-20-2015 05:52 PM

From leboncoin.fr's "Porsche 911 964 993 RS Recaro Sport bucket seats" ad. No price listed
...which may be due to the fact that they are using the exact photos originally posted on the "964 Speedster (or RS?) Seats (SOLD)" thread by Pelican Parts' Avery in 2007 :eek:

Originally Posted by seller, "Win"

Pair of original hardback Recaro bucket seats
964 993 RS grey / black

Profischale P1
964.521.004.66
964.521.003.66

In good condition.
With 5 stickers. Profischale P1 Recaro

Very rare, from a 964 RS
Fit 964, 911 Type F and G, 993-968

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9faffde27b.jpg

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c3bafced9d.jpg

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...04c5aed15a.jpg


curve lover 08-21-2015 11:56 PM

From pistonheads.com's "PORSCHE 964 RS RECARO SEATS (1994)" ad - for sale at £6,995 (~$11,000 USD);
more information on the "964 RS Recaro seats" thread:

Originally Posted by MAF911

Original 964 RS Recaro seats, in three tone grey leather, mint condition. Very rare. Will fit 964 or 993 models.

Reference #4538109

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...42744a8016.jpg


ilko 09-16-2015 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by cghng (Post 12595038)
http://loanfinanceus.com/yellow/images/76.gifhttp://webhostinglo.com/image/images/23.gif http://webhostinglo.com/image/images/24.gif They look like generic race seats. Hell glue a porsche crest on any sparco, omp, "insert name here" race seat and you've essentially got the same thing for thousands less. Flame away.

Here's a beautiful 1996 Pontiac Sunfire:

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/story...0001_large.jpg

Just put some Porsche stickers on it and you've essentially got a 993 for tens of thousands less. Just squint your eyes a little...


Originally Posted by gtrope (Post 12595205)
i'm looking for these exact same crests. Please orientate my research if you know where to find them.

The Porsche crests on the cloth Porsche race seats were embroidered at the factory. You will not find a patch that looks remotely similar. I've seen people slap some crests on regular race seats and they look awful.

ilko 09-17-2015 08:06 PM

Here's a set that is somewhat reasonably priced in the current market: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-...-/171938126805

But I have never seen seats in those particular deviated leather colors, at least not the back rest cushions. The top one looks black, and the bottom one too bright? Also I'm not seeing the Recaro stamp on the back of the headrest.

curve lover 09-17-2015 08:17 PM

Ilko-- Good find ^^

P.S. You've got a P.M. https://rennlist.com/forums/images/editor/email.gif

Originally Posted by cghng (Post 12595038)

[Edited: 3 spam pixels (GIF images) intentionally deleted]

They look like generic race seats. Hell glue a porsche crest on any sparco, omp, "insert name here" race seat and you've essentially got the same thing for thousands less. Flame away.

Originally Posted by ilko (Post 12595249)

1996 Pontiac Sunfire:
Just put some Porsche stickers on it and you've got a 993 for thousands less.


Sadly, we're the victims of a SPAMbot that created screen name cghng & regurgitated esses' post #11 from page one.

Easiest to recognize these spammers as a new RLer with a forgettable random screen name. The post may not make much sense, since it's snatched from earlier pages & doesn't add content to discussion.

Those spam posts have nothing to do with the "cut & pasted" text; it's all about adding sneaky imbedded images 1 pixel by 1 pixel. Invisible to our eye, they allow the website that hosts the image to record IP addresses of all of us that click on the thread. (Sometimes IP address can even be correlated with a physical address & general computer set-up info.)

Potentially nefarious. Good if RL owner IB can prevent them before we ever see them.
The upside: after posts are reported by clicking on the 'Report Post' icon (https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9bd110a848.gif) mods usually remove them promptly. So, what was post #86 disappeared.

Scott's original post before cghng's unscrupulous copying, followed by reponses:

Originally Posted by esses (Post 11185119)

They look like generic race seats. Hell glue a porsche crest on any sparco, omp, "insert name here" race seat and you've essentially got the same thing for thousands less. Flame away.

Originally Posted by Cupcar (Post 11185167)

No flame here, but what you say is not the only point to those who want or collect factory stuff.

Originally Posted by curve lover (Post 11185345)

Scott-- Nothing wrong with chasing the dream of finding OEM seats if you or friends find them for thousands less...




curve lover 09-17-2015 08:18 PM

EBay's "2 Sportsitze Recaro A8 Leder Alcantara neu bezogen Tuning Audi Rs2 Porsche" FS by autopolsterei_de, item #252090205633.

Three sets of upholstered Recaro A8 seats, each pair €3,499 (~$4k USD). That's the price for these in leather &/or alcantara, but final cost will vary based on customers' specific request for paint & leather colors, material, deviated stitching, special embroidery, seam piping, etc. Sliders not included.

Spyder_Man 09-17-2015 09:19 PM

Mystery Recaro Porsche Race Buckets
 
Hey folks,

So I stumbled upon an odd "pair" of Porsche factory race seats made by Recaro:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ab28f233ba.jpg
Both seats and brackets. Seat A on the left. Seat B on the right.

I firmly believe both seats were made for Porsche, as one seat (Seat A) has the iconic spider-web reinforcements on fiberglass shell that match 964 buckets made for Porsche. This seat has its Recaro label on it still but appears to be missing its Porsche part label. The second seat (Seat B) doesn't have the spider-web reinforcement and has the typical SPG reinforcement pattern, but it has this odd riveted reinforcement and brace. Seat B has Recaro, F.I.A., and Porsche factory labels.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b4a91df16d.jpg
Seat A Front

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...160a352b20.jpg
Seat A Back


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2318c9f83b.jpg
Seat A Label


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9c85d33b4a.jpg
Seat B Front

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...099d4e698d.jpg
Seat B Back

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...1cc0b6d86d.jpg
Seat B Recaro and F.I.A. labels

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...23b948ff57.jpg
Seat B Porsche factory label with 964 part number.

So what are these seats from? The guy I bought them from had no clue. I think Seat A is from a 964 RS Cup car like this one:

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...43984621d8.jpg

Seat B with the funky riveted bracket really puzzles me. It does have a 964 part number on it, so I know it is Porsche factory legit. Its December 1995 build date makes me wonder whether it was for a 964 or 993 race car. It's certainly dated too late to be either a 944 Turbo Cup or 968 Turbo S seat. Thoughts are welcome!

P.S. I will be selling these seats once I figure out what I have. They are located in the SF Bay Area, so if you're coming to RRV we might be able to coordinate an in-person inspection.

P.P.S. Interestingly neither seat has webbing under the bottom cushion. The cushion is glued to the shell. These are most definitely racing seats.

xcoldricex 09-17-2015 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by Spyder_Man (Post 12600468)
Hey folks,

So I stumbled upon an odd "pair" of Porsche factory race seats made by Recaro:

dammit I was going to buy these to put in my car. I was a few minutes late :/

curve lover 09-22-2015 02:36 AM


Originally Posted by ilko (Post 12600297)

Here's a set that is somewhat reasonably priced in the current market: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-...-/171938126805

Speaking of current market price, notice the seller's despcription:
"Everything Speedster has tripled in value with no signs of slowing down."
...& they weren't cheap before prices started escalating :eek:

Originally Posted by ilko (Post 12600297)

I have never seen seats in those particular deviated leather colors, at least not the back rest cushions. The top one looks black, and the bottom one too bright?

Slightly different color scheme here, but perhaps 1 thing in common is how ceiling light reflecting off the horizontal leg cushions tends to make them brighter then the upper back (vertical) cushions.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d91cc28ac5.jpg

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0ec89098dd.jpg

Spyder_Man 09-30-2015 03:14 PM

964 RS Lightweight/Cup and 993 RSR Cup
 

Originally Posted by Spyder_Man (Post 12600468)
Hey folks,

So I stumbled upon an odd "pair" of Porsche factory race seats made by Recaro:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ab28f233ba.jpg
Both seats and brackets. Seat A on the left. Seat B on the right.

...So what are these seats from? The guy I bought them from had no clue. I think Seat A is from a 964 RS Cup car like this one:

After spending quite a bit of time in the pits at RRV investigating racing seat options, I've come to identify the two seats that I have:

Seat A (with the December 1990 date) pictured on the left matched the seats in the 1990 964 RS Lightweight (i.e. "leichtbau") exactly. I still believe these seats can be foudn in 964 RS Cup cars too based on website resources.

Seat B (with the December 1995 date) pictured on the right matched a seats in several of the 1995 993 RSR Cup cars that we in the pits.

Both factory racing seats, but from slightly different vintages.

curve lover 10-16-2015 01:13 PM

Jeremy ^^ Great meeting you & your dad at Rennsport Reunion last month!

Congratulations on selling your seats for your asking price, $6,500.

Sounds like that will help a good cause - a honeymoon in Germany :thumbup:
________________________________________________________________________ ______

A friend in Germany just emailed with the following info:
Asking 9,500 € (~$11,000 USD) for these 964 RS seats, including their mounting equipment.

"Recaro buckets, black & grey leather.
Parts no longer available from Porsche.
Original stickers in place."

No financial affiliation; PM if anyone wants his contact info.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a783635521.jpg


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...81884f0e68.jpg


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...43fcba337c.jpg


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...f3f849b391.jpg


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...96993bc900.jpg


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d6d196bc32.jpg


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...1cc03fddbe.jpg

curve lover 10-25-2015 06:23 PM

Data point:
Per Instagram poster, these OEM 964 RS Recaro painted hard-back bucket sports seats sold for $8,000 two weeks ago:


PiB993 10-30-2015 11:56 AM

Recaro Pole Position seats require a special bracket to fit (in a 993) plus if you want them to be "adjustable" rather than fixed they require an additional device (that raises them up a bit?). Correct me if I'm wrong.

But the RS Speedster, 993 RS, GT2 seats above will fit in standard and come adjustable (unless someone removed the adjustability mechanics)- Is that true?

Also, what kind of seats are these highly bolstered ones in a 959?


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...befea95519.jpg

gonzilla 10-30-2015 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by PiB993 (Post 12714316)
Also, what kind of seats are these highly bolstered ones in a 959?


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...befea95519.jpg

The 959 version of the soft back sport seats (like in 964s and early 993s).

http://www.dancrouchblog.com/wp-cont...01/0074_12.JPG

FrenchToast 11-01-2015 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by gonzilla (Post 12714928)

Originally Posted by PiB993 (Post 12714316)
Recaro Pole Position seats require a special bracket to fit (in a 993) plus if you want them to be "adjustable" rather than fixed they require an additional device (that raises them up a bit?). Correct me if I'm wrong.

But the RS Speedster, 993 RS, GT2 seats above will fit in standard and come adjustable (unless someone removed the adjustability mechanics)- Is that true?

Also, what kind of seats are these highly bolstered ones in a 959?


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...befea95519.jpg

The 959 version of the soft back sport seats (like in 964s and early 993s).

http://www.dancrouchblog.com/wp-cont...01/0074_12.JPG

Yep. Also came in the late 944, late 928, and 968.

The 959 units have a stitching pattern unique to the 959, which is also present in monotone colored and cloth interiors. Not all 959s had sport seats, mind you. And at least one 959 was delivered with the seats showcased in this thread.

Cupcar 11-01-2015 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by PiB993 (Post 12714316)
Recaro Pole Position seats require a special bracket to fit (in a 993) plus if you want them to be "adjustable" rather than fixed they require an additional device (that raises them up a bit?). Correct me if I'm wrong.

But the RS Speedster, 993 RS, GT2 seats above will fit in standard and come adjustable (unless someone removed the adjustability mechanics)- Is that true? ...


All the Recaro shell bucket seats, whether Porsche or Recaro branded, have side plates bolted to a set of sliders under the side plates for seat position adjustment.

Porsche use the manual sliders from the early Porsche 928 for the Recaro shell seats used in the RS type street cars.

These 928 sliders have a lever on one side that is lifted in rotation to unlock and lock the seat like most manual operated seat cars have.

For race use, Porsche use the Recaro slider with a transverse bar mounted across the front of the seat to lock and unlock it as shown below.

By perhaps drilling some holes (depends on application) either slider can be used with any Recaro shell seat.



https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c1098fe15f.jpg

Northwest European 11-02-2015 01:17 PM

There are some great pics in this thread. I now have new desires I did not have 10 minutes ago. Thanks!

MarinS4 11-04-2015 01:18 PM

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My shoulders are too wide for any of the OEM Recaro seats. After countless hours of searching I found the Sparco EVO2's (older version) fit my body the best. While I am not in love with the seat material I could not be happier with the comfort of the seats. I use to snub the sport shells now I know they are the best option once you find ones that fit you. They totally transformed the driving experience and how connected I feel to the car. Getting in and out is easy once you get use to it.

I plan to have them recovered like this. Not 100% sold on the diamond stitching but I love the leather/alcantera combo.

Cupcar 11-04-2015 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by MarinS4 (Post 12729575)
My shoulders are too wide for any of the OEM Recaro seats. After countless hours of searching I found the Sparco EVO2's (older version) fit my body the best. While I am not in love with the seat material I could not be happier with the comfort of the seats. I use to snub the sport shells now I know they are the best option once you find ones that fit you. They totally transformed the driving experience and how connected I feel to the car. Getting in and out is easy once you get use to it.

I plan to have them recovered like this. Not 100% sold on the diamond stitching but I love the leather/alcantera combo.

Did you try Recaro Profi XL - much taller and wider than OEM Recaro RS seat and taller than a Pole Position

MarinS4 11-04-2015 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by Cupcar (Post 12729760)
Did you try Recaro Profi XL - much taller and wider than OEM Recaro RS seat and taller than a Pole Position

I did try that one. Shoulders were good but too much room in the lower hip portion. I found that to be the case with just about all the Recaros. Once the shoulders fit the hips got to big. Sparco EVO 2's on the other hand fit like a glove.

PiB993 11-05-2015 11:55 AM

Thanks Cupcar for the info on the two different types of sliders.

Cupcar 11-05-2015 12:46 PM

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2188d4b6e0.jpg

curve lover 11-29-2015 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by Cupcar (Post 12732504)

The fastest seat for when you really gotta go ^^

;) The lightest seats on this thread:

EBay.it's "PORSCHE 911 964 968 993 RS sedile guscio gusci sede Speedster Recaro bucket seat," item #281855757733, FS by porschegrandtourismo for EUR 6.999,00 (~$7,400 USD)...

ilko 11-30-2015 11:09 PM

2 Attachment(s)
I just put mine in the 964:

Attachment 1222420

Attachment 1222421

Cactus 12-01-2015 12:52 PM

So nice!

gonzilla 12-01-2015 07:19 PM

Looking good Ilko!

ilko 12-02-2015 08:07 AM

Thanks guys! I have the finished product here: https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...a-charm-6.html

gonzilla 12-02-2015 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by ilko (Post 12806494)
Thanks guys! I have the finished product here: https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...a-charm-6.html

Love your signature yellow lenses!

pp000830 12-04-2015 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by curve lover (Post 11184179)
Ebay.de seller porschefreunde-baden-baden's "2 Schalensitze / Sportsitze Recaro Porsche 964 RS RSR Speedster 993 911" auction #271409865151; €5,799 (~$8,000 USD).

http://imageshack.com/a/img21/2388/i6hg.jpg

I wonder how much complexity it would introduce to make the seat side mounts adjustable? Nothing complex, a mechanism like the stamped metal wheel height adjustments on a lawn mower. Would there be a benefit in this when using the seats on a street car or a race car with multiple drivers?

KMASS993 12-04-2015 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by curve lover (Post 12800090)
The fastest seat for when you really gotta go ^^ ;) The lightest seats on this thread: EBay.it's "PORSCHE 911 964 968 993 RS sedile guscio gusci sede Speedster Recaro bucket seat," item #281855757733, FS by porschegrandtourismo for EUR 6.999,00 (~$7,400 USD)...

These were built in March 2002? Seems odd. Isn't there supposed to be a yellow 964 sticker as well as three round stickers? I smell a fake.

gonzilla 02-26-2016 02:59 AM

Found a set of 2nd gen Recaro A8s (with the SRD bottoms) on eBay. They look to be complete, newer upholstery, but unpainted seat backs (that's good!). Great price ($3k + $288 S/H). No affiliation.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-ORIGINAL-R...JWbcNq&vxp=mtr

https://z-1-scontent-kul1-1.xx.fbcdn...b8&oe=56DD72E4
https://z-1-scontent-kul1-1.xx.fbcdn...0d&oe=56DAB59F
https://z-1-scontent-kul1-1.xx.fbcdn...3a&oe=571523D8
https://z-1-scontent-kul1-1.xx.fbcdn...fb&oe=56E15A8A
https://z-1-scontent-kul1-1.xx.fbcdn...64&oe=56E6AAFF

curve lover 04-15-2016 05:56 PM

Mike ^^ Nice find!

Originally Posted by KMASS993 (Post 12814298)

These were built in March 2002? Seems odd. Isn't there supposed to be a yellow 964 sticker as well as three round stickers? I smell a fake.

Likewise: were the following built &/or ordered new from Porsche in 2014?
If so, 'receipt' says they total €24,347.86 EU (~$27,500 USD)...

"Porsche 911 964 993 RS Profischale P1 Recaro Lightweight Rare Seats No Reserve - Will also fit a 964 993 Speedster" by eBay seller mvb2008mark; item #311562782826. Sold for $10,600 USD after 28 bids:

Originally Posted by eBay

Condition: Used
Surface Finish: Perforated Genuine Porsche Leather
Brand: Recaro
Manufacturer Part Number: 964.521.003.66

Porsche 911 / 964 / 993 Sport Seats Black and Grey Original Porsche leather Perfect Condition

Seats set in perfect condition

Very hard to find

Porsche Classic Program Order

EUR 24.000


Perfect for a 964/993 RS for which they were originally made!

Parts Numbers:
964.521.003.66
964.521.004.66

International / Worldwide shipping through Fedex.

PAYPAL ONLY

SEATS ARE BEING RELISTED

Feel free to contact me directly in case of questions or when you need more pictures. Forward your email address as pictures on ebay are limited.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7f49c8f914.jpg


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curve lover 04-18-2016 06:37 PM

Like to think this ad's for a set of seats, but item's description states 1 x seat & shows a single seat in each photo.
Title mixes "seat" & "seats" :banghead:
"Recaro Porsche Seat 911 993 964 RS Speedster seats bucket seats" on ebay-kleinanzeigen.de for €9,500 (~$10,800 USD):

Originally Posted by 'Mark' on eBay classifieds

Cologne, Germany

Item #445722510

1 X Recaro Porsche 911 993 / 964 RS / RSR / Speedster bucket seat

Super rare

Special shell

Part number:
993.521.003.70

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...3fbde6061a.jpg


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d5e69e31d3.jpg


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curve lover 04-18-2016 07:03 PM

Two used seats for sale: "Porsche 911 964 993 RS Recaro bucket seats" on ebay-kleinanzeigen.de for €10,500 (~$ 11,900 USD):

Originally Posted by 'Mark' on eBay classifieds

Cologne, Germany

Item #445751064

Two 963 [sic] RS shells seats

Part Numbers
964.521.003.66
964.521.004.66

Good Condition

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...165c862b82.jpg


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c078632012.jpg


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d4a5b58ed5.jpg


curve lover 05-06-2016 11:56 PM

Cross-posted from the Parts Marketplace Forum's "Recaro SPG Hard Silver Back w/ Rare Fabric Design - Very Good Condition" thread:

Originally Posted by andrewdanapoole (Post 13255186)

Category: Interior
Price: $2000
Private Listing
Part fits: 356, 911, 912, 914, 924/931/944/951/968, 928, 964, 986, 987, 993, 996, 997, Cayenne, Cayman, Carrera GT, Panamera, Race Car, Other Marques
Location (Region): Midwestern
Item Condition: Used

Unfortunately I have to unload these as my torso is too tall to clear the shoulder holes on these seats. Price is firm.

I prefer a local pickup in Southern California if possible, but will ship at buyer's expense.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...00b777e65a.jpg

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ff02d2a744.jpg

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...646f2aba31.jpg

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curve lover 05-31-2016 07:42 PM

For sale on eBay.de: "Porsche 964 993 Turbo S RS seat shell seat Speedster Recaro seat cushion" by porschegrandtourismo; item #282053363116.
€1,200 EUR (~$1,300 USD)...

Originally Posted by eBay.de

Porsche 964 993 Turbo S RS Speedster bucket seat cushions dark grey new

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6f60045a6d.jpg


nathan1 05-31-2016 09:43 PM

I just posted my set in the Parts Classifieds, if anyone wants/needs a set!

https://rennlist.com/forums/parts-ma...l#post13336136

gonzilla 06-02-2016 04:35 PM

Seen this 959 the past few days with old 70s 935 lollipop seats. Notice the perlon on the shells. Such cool seats, but makes me wonder what they did with the stock 959 seats! :crying:


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7b0e8ad01e.jpg

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curve lover 06-10-2016 03:12 AM

Mike ^^ That at the Circle K for repairs, next to Seinfeld's 3,000-mile Riviera Blue Carrera RS? :eek:

Originally Posted by nathan1 (Post 13336145)

I just posted my set in the Parts Classifieds, if anyone wants/needs a set!

https://rennlist.com/forums/parts-ma...l#post13336136

Congrats, nathan1 (& Carlos993) - sold in an hour for $10,000 USD asking price + shipping:
"OEM 964 Speedster Recaro Seats- The real deal-964RS/993RS!"

Originally Posted by nathan1 (Post 13336136)

Category: Interior
Price (no $ sign please): $10000
Private or Vendor Listing: Private Listing
Part fits (select ONLY those which apply): 964, 993
Location (Region): NorthWest
Item Condition: Used

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4d453efbff.jpg

I have for a sale a GENUINE set of OEM Recaro seats that originally came in a 964 Speedster or 993RS. They are also the same as the 964RS seats but they do have the trampoline bottoms that were reserved for the Speedster or 993RS, but the shells, upholstery, etc are the same.

These have the tricolor grey inserts and the shells are painted Guards Red. They are complete with brackets and sliders and are bolt in ready for any 964 or 993. They show only the slightest of wear/patina on the lower cushions and almost no wear on the bolsters. There are some very light scratches on the bottom paint on the passenger seat, not visible when the seats are installed. The stickers are not present as they were removed when the shells were painted. They have ~5k miles of use in one of my 964's.

These seats VERY rarely come up for sale and very rarely in such original, pristine condition.

Seat Part # 964.521.501.00 (2) Black Full leather
Center Backrest Part # 964.521.319.00 Color Code: CJL-Dark Grey/Pearl Grey
Bottom Cushion Part # 964.521.323.00 Color Code CJX-Light Grey/Dark Grey

The seats also come with the OEM adapters. The seats are slightly narrower than Recaro Pole Positions, so it’s important to get the OEM adapters so they mount to the OEM seat rails (included).
Adapter Part # 964.521.819.01 and 964.521.820.01

I fully recognize to the majority of people a set of Recaro Pole Positions are a MUCH better deal (I have a set myself) BUT if you have a 964RS, Speedster, 993RS, 993 GT2, etc. etc. and need the original seats, this is your opportunity.

$10,000 USD + $300 shipping CONUS. Actual shipping costs for International shipping.

The seats are located in Bellevue, WA. I will ship them via Fed-Ex ground insured for the full value and have them professionally packed.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...183c4566e4.jpg

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d03ce483d6.jpg

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Originally Posted by nathan1 (Post 13336201)

Here are the factory parts diagrams for these seats from the PET:

964 Speedster:
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...3f680d7548.png

993RS:

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...aa9e55437f.png



Marvinta 06-16-2016 03:22 PM

Hi , great thread. I was wondering if you have any pictures of the CLOTH GT2 carbon back oem seats?

curve lover 08-10-2016 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Marvinta (Post 13380894)

pictures of CLOTH seats?

Related, recently sold by RLer: "Recaro SPG Hard Silver Back w/ Rare Fabric Design - Very Good Condition"

Originally Posted by andrewdanapoole (Post 13255186)

Category: Interior
Price (no $ sign please): $2000
Private or Vendor Listing: Private Listing
Part fits (select ONLY those which apply): 356, 911, 912, 914, 924/931/944/951/968, 928, 964, 986, 987, 993, 996, 997, Cayenne, Cayman, Carrera GT, Panamera, Race Car, Other Marques
Location (Region): Midwestern
Item Condition: Used

Unfortunately I have to unload these as my torso is too tall to clear the shoulder holes on these seats. Price is firm.

I prefer a local pickup in Southern California if possible, but will ship at buyer's expense.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...e0b435fd72.jpg

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...3384594ee9.jpg

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...5e04b26746.jpg

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https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...3c0265d8d8.jpg

__________________
Tschüss --Jäger [Click here to meet my 993, "Speedy"]

curve lover 08-10-2016 11:57 AM

Thomas Josef Schmitz wants to meet up next week. Let me know if anyone has questions you'd like me to ask about these.

From GermanSportscars.net's "Porsche 911 - 964 RS Sitze, original RECARO for PORSCHE 964 RS seats:"

Originally Posted by Thomas Josef Schmitz

ORIGINAL PORSCHE PARTS IN VERY GOOD ORIGINAL CONDITIONS.

RARE ORIGINAL PARTS NO REPRODUCTION PARTS !!!

BLACK LEATHER WITH TRIPPLE GREY LEATHER INSERTS.

ORIG. BUCKET SHELLS BY RECARO FOR PORSCHE WITH ALL ORIG. STICKERS

POA

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9235b6d117.jpg

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https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ef6dafd7bc.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...626d0b2f37.jpg

__________________
Tschüss --Jäger [Click here to meet my 993, "Speedy"]

curve lover 08-10-2016 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by curve lover

Thomas Josef Schmitz wants to meet up next week. Let me know if anyone has questions you'd like me to ask about these.

Likewise, from GermanSportscars.net's "Porsche 911 - 964 - 993 RS / GT Sitze, ORIGINAL SEATS:"
__________________
Tschüss --Jäger [Click here to meet my 993, "Speedy"]

goofballdeluxe 08-10-2016 07:31 PM

Nice work Jager!

Meanwhile, anytime I see the price is "POA", it means $$$$$$$ LOL

curve lover 08-25-2016 04:52 AM

To all interested in prices from Thomas J. Schmitz:
Talked to him in person at length this weekend. However, failed to hear specific prices. Will re-engage via email & see if he'll allow me to share.

Originally Posted by goofballdeluxe (Post 13518280)

Nice work Jager!

Meanwhile, anytime I see the price is "POA", it means $$$$$$$ LOL

Philip-- Never knew you were fluent in German ;)

Was in CA for the last 9 days. Missed you!

Latest seat rarity I've run across for sale -- "993 soft back sport seats & rear seat delete - cashmere" ad on Pelican Parts:

Originally Posted by SKM

Pair of soft back, cashmere, full leather sport seats for 993 (Porsche option code M383 & M387) $5,500. Also, cashmere rear seat delete/rear luggage dump for 993 (option code M419) $3,950. Rear seat delete has leatherette covering on doors rather than painted cashmere as many others are. Removed from a 993 cabriolet however shelf may also fit a coupe. These are perhaps the most supportive sports seats for a 993 and are very rare. Excellent condition. Located in Philadelphia suburbs.

Will consider trading your 993 seats (any color) plus cash.

Originally Posted by ricks234

I have these seats in a car I have listed for sale. I agree. These are hands down the best seats available for the 993.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...21bba371b0.jpg

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Tschüss --Jäger [Click here to meet my 993, "Speedy"]

AZ Targa 08-25-2016 01:13 PM

https://rennlist.com/forums/parts-ma...cup-seats.html

Category: Interior
Price (no $ sign please): $3900
Private or Vendor Listing: Private Listing
Part fits (select ONLY those which apply): 964, 986, 987, 993
Location (Region): Europe
Item Condition: Used

Unique opportunity to acquire a set of original 964 and 993 Cup seats.
Unfortunately they have been repainted in the past so the original stickers are gone. They have also no identical back side and are therefore also priced accordingly. Price is per two, ex shipping from Amsterdam.

I also have one seat WITH correct stickers from a January 1994 so from a 993 Cup. That will be 2900 US$ ex shipping from Amsterdam.

More info per e-mail: info@porschedriversclub.com

curve lover 09-04-2016 10:32 PM

^^ Good share, Alex :thumbsup:

Originally Posted by curve lover (Post 11223761)

Recaro Pole Positions recovered like Porsche RS / Speedster hardback sport bucket seats, with an embossed crest sold in London for ~£2,000 GBP (~$3,300 USD).

From the seller's eBay listing:

Originally Posted by eddstalbans

I had these seats custom made for me by Southbound Trimmers in early 2012. I purchased two Recaro Pole Position bucket seats new and had Southbound retrim the seats in Black OEM Porsche leather. The seats are replicas of the style of seats used in the 964/993RS models, with perforated cushions and centre stitching. These seats will cost over £3000 if custom built for you by Southbound.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...887aea1ce0.jpg

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b4227f4879.jpg

FWIW, panel behind each shoulder is stitched differently from OEM ^^

For anyone near London who wants Recaro Pole Positions in RS/Speedster-look, another nod of approval for Southbound Trimmers from RLer BLACK-BETTY:

GBX 09-05-2016 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by curve lover (Post 13552707)
To all interested in prices from Thomas J. Schmitz:
Talked to him in person at length this weekend. However, failed to hear specific prices. Will re-engage via email & see if he'll allow me to share.

Philip-- Never knew you were fluent in German ;)

Was in CA for the last 9 days. Missed you!

Latest seat rarity I've run across for sale -- "993 soft back sport seats & rear seat delete - cashmere" ad on Pelican Parts:

__________________
Tschüss --Jäger [Click here to meet my 993, "Speedy"]

I want these softbacks so but but can't decide if it's worth them over custom hardbacks from Wald :confused:

991TR 11-19-2016 03:47 PM

Please revive this seat porn thread

Supersonic964 11-30-2016 01:42 PM

Saw these listed on Ebay. They look AMAZING:eek::

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-...e/311750181853

ilko 11-30-2016 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by Supersonic993 (Post 13780052)
Saw these listed on Ebay. They look AMAZING:eek::

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-...e/311750181853

These seats have been listed on ebay at least half a dozen times this year. Another member contacted me months ago asking if he should buy them and last I heard was going to pull the trigger. Yet they appear again and again. The seller also uses shill bids to drive the price up. I'm not sure if they ever sell OR whether the seller has a number of these and sells them every once in a while. If the latter were true it would certainly call their authenticity into question... In either case buyer beware.

For archival purposes I've attached the image from the auction here since they seller uses the same pictures every time.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...83b8bd3906.jpg

MarinS4 11-30-2016 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by curve lover (Post 13552707)
Latest seat rarity I've run across for sale -- "993 soft back sport seats & rear seat delete - cashmere" ad on Pelican Parts:

Are rear seat deletes really going for $4k these days? I see the LA dismantler ones asking big $$$ but I didn't think they actually sold for that.

Cactus 12-01-2016 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by MarinS4 (Post 13781454)
Are rear seat deletes really going for $4k these days? I see the LA dismantler ones asking big $$$ but I didn't think they actually sold for that.

I havent seen any posted in a while. Like everything there is the asking price which is always stupid and the selling price which we rarely ever hear.

ilko 12-16-2016 03:48 PM

Here we go again: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-...-/311760785371

No reserve, always seem to sell, yet a few weeks later a set is miraculously back for sale...

mvb5455@gmail.com

Supersonic964 12-17-2016 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by ilko (Post 13817347)
Here we go again: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-...-/311760785371

No reserve, always seem to sell, yet a few weeks later a set is miraculously back for sale...

mvb5455@gmail.com

ilko,

Was looking at these seats & wanted to pursue them..Supposedly the buyer of the last auction didn't pay. I Asked about there authenticity & he supplied a receipt from Porsche in Germany...
Still can't be sure if these are "Genuine OEM"

CorrdoBrit 12-18-2016 01:50 AM


Originally Posted by Supersonic993 (Post 13820214)
ilko,

Was looking at these seats & wanted to pursue them..Supposedly the buyer of the last auction didn't pay. I Asked about there authenticity & he supplied a receipt from Porsche in Germany...
Still can't be sure if these are "Genuine OEM"

Fishy bidding on his listings and he canceled auctions twice in the last month. The two times they did 'sell' they sold to the same highest bidder with 18 feedback. Could be shill bids.

kkswow12 12-18-2016 07:01 AM

hhhhhmmmmm
 
think that is more than 'could be'.....

Originally Posted by CorrdoBrit (Post 13820450)
Fishy bidding on his listings and he canceled auctions twice in the last month. The two times they did 'sell' they sold to the same highest bidder with 18 feedback. Could be shill bids.


JJJMCD 12-20-2016 11:04 PM

Amazed that these haven't sold yet:

https://rennlist.com/forums/parts-marketplace/961503-black-cayman-997-seats-3-sets-one-sport-2-standard.html#post13807548

They bolt into 964/993 with the Brey-Kraus adapters:

http://www.ogracing.com/brey-krause-r-9043-seat-adapter-porsche-oem-996-997-seats-to-993-964

NineMeister 03-22-2017 11:19 AM

I have a question about the RS seats for all you RS and Speedster enthusiasts:

Currently at Ninemeister our work in progress includes two 9m64RS, a 9m93GT2 and a 9m93RSR, all of which we would prefer to finish with a pair of fixed back RS seats but are stuck with either the narrower SPG or wider Pole Position. Neither are ideal, hence I am now giving serious consideration to manufacturing an FIA approved, carbon fibre 9m RS seat.

The 9mRS seat will be visually identical to the RS seat but manufactured with a high quality carbon fibre shell with similar fire-proof cloth or black leather options. The seat belt holes will be trimmed with similar plastic ferrules, as per the original RS seats. As part of the production process we plan to submit samples of the carbon back for sled testing to achieve FIA approval, a process that our manufacturer has done many times before and is confident of passing.

At the moment the pricing is likely to be in the region of £2195 per seat in cloth and £2595 in black leather with the FIA approval, excluding taxes and shipping. We will be pricing up the runner and side bracket additions shortly.

So, the question I have is would anybody be interested in having these for their 964 or 993 projects and should I start my own thread with an exclusive Rennlist Group Buy? Answers on a postcard please to......

Trantorman 03-22-2017 12:10 PM

now that sounds like a good plan, let me know when you have a fully inclusive price.

:corn:

Spyder_Man 03-22-2017 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by NineMeister
At the moment the pricing is likely to be in the region of £2195 per seat in cloth and £2595 in black leather with the FIA approval, excluding taxes and shipping. We will be pricing up the runner and side bracket additions shortly.

So, the question I have is would anybody be interested in having these for their 964 or 993 projects and should I start my own thread with an exclusive Rennlist Group Buy? Answers on a postcard please to......

I am all for more OEM-like aftermarket solutions for the 964/993 community, but they have to be priced reasonably. I fear at the prices that you've quoted (without taxes, shipping, runners, or brackets included), you are going to have a very limited audience. For half the cost one could buy a new set of Recaro-brand FIA certified Pole Position seats, which look pretty good in these cars.

Alternatively for the OEM-like show cars there is a guy in Germany cranking out 993 hardback sport seats with or without carbon fiber backs at about $5500 USD for a pair. I believe that's including shipping, but I could be wrong.

Again I'd love to see more high quality aftermarket options out there. Perhaps with greater production numbers the unit price could come down further?

OverBoosted28 03-22-2017 01:04 PM

2 Attachment(s)
It said "showcase your seats".......didn't it?. :-)
Attachment 1147608

Attachment 1147609

NineMeister 03-22-2017 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by Spyder_Man (Post 14052092)
I am all for more OEM-like aftermarket solutions for the 964/993 community, but they have to be priced reasonably. I fear at the prices that you've quoted (without taxes, shipping, runners, or brackets included), you are going to have a very limited audience. For half the cost one could buy a new set of Recaro-brand FIA certified Pole Position seats, which look pretty good in these cars.

Alternatively for the OEM-like show cars there is a guy in Germany cranking out 993 hardback sport seats with or without carbon fiber backs at about $5500 USD for a pair. I believe that's including shipping, but I could be wrong.

Again I'd love to see more high quality aftermarket options out there. Perhaps with greater production numbers the unit price could come down further?

I hear where you are coming from, however what we are proposing here is a high end, carbon fibre 9m race seat to FIA standards, equivalent to a new Recaro Profi SP-A mass production seat which sells for £2199 in the UK excluding mounts. There is simply no business sense in us trying to compete at the price level of the Pole Position, in fact we offer the PP as an option for the RS builds where the customer has a preference for cost.

NineMeister 03-22-2017 01:43 PM

4 Attachment(s)

Originally Posted by OverBoosted28 (Post 14052100)
It said "showcase your seats".......didn't it?. :-)


Of course!!

Here are the original Recaro seats in my 993RS Clubsport.

OverBoosted28 03-22-2017 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by NineMeister (Post 14052240)
Of course!!

Here are the original Recaro seats in my 993RS Clubsport.

Stunning!!!!!! Not just the seats..... :-)

goofballdeluxe 03-22-2017 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by NineMeister (Post 14051804)
should I start my own thread with an exclusive Rennlist Group Buy? Answers on a postcard please to......

Yes, start your own thread. This one is so long and cluttered, it won't reach the most customers :cheers:

NineMeister 03-22-2017 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by goofballdeluxe (Post 14052641)
Yes, start your own thread. This one is so long and cluttered, it won't reach the most customers :cheers:

Will do. Cheers!

Apologies to Jaeger for the temporary hi-jack.

sm 08-28-2018 03:36 PM

Why do the seat backs look different between some seats? Some have an extra set of X ribs across where your kidneys are. See below pics (from this thread) for example. Any ideas? Does it indicate replica vs original Porsche seats?

http://imageshack.com/a/img18/5642/4x3h.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img801/7866/hhq1.jpg

erikerik 08-28-2018 04:07 PM

My old 993 RS did not have the extra cross bar in the back of the seats.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...68b8cd29ef.jpg

Spyder_Man 08-28-2018 05:42 PM

Perhaps street vs race intended use? With more reinforcements for the race version.

erikerik 08-28-2018 06:52 PM

Replica vs Genuine. Even the photos from the first page of the grey backed buckets are very suspect. metal crest on the back of seat looks out of place. I would not buy a set of these seats at such a high price without the trampoline/recaro stamp/correct shell and brackets.

Patrik S 08-29-2018 07:16 AM

I have the genuine 964 RS seats and they have the extra X bracing. Part number 964.521.003.66 / 964.521.004.66.

964 Speedster seats are : 964.521.003.70 / 964.521.004.70

Found this info at: http://www.renn-list.com/Question-on..._10731883.html

"There are two different patterns, both are original Porsche. The seats with one less "X" worth of bracing are known as Speedster seats (which I own in my 968) and have a trampoline suspension system under the lower cushion and lack the 5th belt hole for a harness. These came in the 964 Speedster and 993RS.

The seats with the extra "X" are 964RS seats and have the 5th belt hole but no trampoline system underneath. These seats are generally considered a little more "hardcore" and less comfortable.

Personally I prefer the Speedster seats from an appearance standpoint in that they are a little less busy looking compared to the 964RS while not being as plain as standard Pole Position seats that you can buy new today. They are also slightly more comfortable with the trampoline system and some people have said they are a hair wider than 964RS seats. "

curve lover 09-04-2018 04:35 PM

Example of extra X bracing on RS seats, offered by a (former) 993 Forum RLer, no affiliation: "FS: 993 Carrera RS/CS Sport Seat:"

Originally Posted by Silver Surfer (Post 15245386)

993 Carrera RS/CS hardshell sport seat for sale. This is only ONE seat, which I used on the driver's side. I had the shell painted Porsche black, and it is upholstered with its original black leather. The leather is supple and has no tears, scuffs, or marks. It has all new correct Porsche factory mounting hardware, which costs $1,500 alone. It is a straight bolt-in replacement for the stock driver's seat. This seat is very similar to the Recaro pole position in size and support. You will feel much more connected with the chassis and the road with this seat, and I found it to be very comfortable even on long trips of four hours or more. I prefer it to my stock seat. And to my eyes, it looked great in a black interior, even though the driver and passenger seats were not matching. And if it really bothers you, single seats do come up for sale every now and then, often on European Ebay, so you could buy a second single and have a pair for much less than purchasing a matched set outright. I'm selling only because I sold the car I bought this for. Price is $2,500 or best offer, plus shipping.

Originally Posted by Silver Surfer (Post 15249455)

ErikErik was looking for the 964 Speedster version of this seat. The 964 Speedster version came with the "trampoline" under the bottom seat cushion. Some early Carrera RSs may have had these seats as well until the factory ran out of stock. But the official 993 Carrera RS version of this seat does not have the "trampoline" seat bottom. The two different versions of this seat are shown in the Porsche European "Sitz Katalog," one with the trampoline for the 964 Speedster and the other without the trampoline for the 993 Carrera RS. My seat is the 993 Carrera RS version without the trampoline.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...f87d33d47c.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a1427cbc98.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9738317117.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6654c6ce30.jpg
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https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2252b2aecb.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...45aa731f32.jpg

Originally Posted by Silver Surfer (Post 15246175)

Attached is a picture of the back of the seat before it was painted. I will post another later today in its painted condition. The stickers were taken off in repainting, but I had them replicated exactly. They come with the seat. Thanks!

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...3a637e17bc.jpg

Originally Posted by Silver Surfer (Post 15247584)

Attached is a picture of the seat back as currently painted.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...72796fd4f3.jpg




curve lover 09-04-2018 05:07 PM

Following up recent posts' mention of trampolines:
...from eBay seller porschegrandtourismo's "Porsche 993 Speedster Sitz Dämpfungsmatte seat padding 96452175300 damping mat," for 579.00€ (~$675 USD); item #283088251083:

Originally Posted by eBay

"Sie bieten auf zwei neue(2)Dämpfungsmatten für einen Porsche Speedster Sitz"

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...f8d37df8ac.jpg


curve lover 09-04-2018 05:42 PM

From eBay seller deutschepartsuk's "Genuine Porsche 964RS RS Recaro lightweight leather bucket seats, triple grey," for £15,000 (~$19,500 USD); item #273125114745:

Originally Posted by eBay

Very rare opportunity to purchase a pair of Genuine Porsche Recaro lightweight leather bucket seats
Dated December 1991, removed from a Porsche 964RS lightweight and stored for 10+ years
Seats as removed complete with runners and mounts and seat belt buckles
Can be viewed by appointment in Liverpool
There is some wear to the top edge of the drivers seat, see pictures
Price includes VAT @ 20% - VAT invoice will be issued to buyer

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ed445340d5.jpg
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alps 09-04-2018 05:56 PM

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...668afdeb31.jpg
The shell with the additional X is the same as the one fitted to the 993RS Clubsport, however Clubsport seats were covered with flame resistant fabric, not leather. 993RS Touring seats were missing the additional X, had the trampoline base and were leather covered as in the picture. The advertised seat appears to be a hybrid Clubsport shell with leather cover.

curve lover 09-04-2018 05:59 PM

From eBayer seller avharmony's "RARE GENUINE PORSCHE 1994 964 SPEEDSTER RACING SEATS OEM BY RECARO!!! RS RSR RUF," for $26,595 USD; item #113231014124:

Originally Posted by eBay

Incredibly rare Genuine PORSCHE 1994 964 Speedster Racing Seats!!!
OEM'd by RECARO for PORSCHE.
Includes original Genuine PORSCHE Sliders & Seatbelt Receptacles.

Perfectly Preserved Original Soft Supple Leather Black Surrounds & Tri-Grey Inserts.

Seat Shells are original paint in Guards Red.

Most Desirable Style with "Trampoline" Support Under Bottom Seat Insert Cushion.

Genuine Porsche Lightest Weight Factory Seating Option.

Seat Dimensions:
22" Shoulder width
35" Seat Back height
26" depth

Original Sticker under seats:

Left/Driver:
Part #: 964.521.003.70
Dated: 17.06.93 (June 17, 1993)

Right/Passenger:
Part #: 964.521.004.70
Dated: 17.06.93 (June 17, 1993)

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0bf2e2cb6d.jpg
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tjb616 09-05-2018 12:45 PM

That seller has some interesting posts....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-GENUIN....c100752.m1982

Henrik964 09-19-2018 05:54 PM

Anyone that could explain my seat…
https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...the-crest.html

curve lover 12-26-2018 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by curve lover (Post 11184236)

With regards to replicas, one has to perform due diligence before possibly purchasing, as the safety standards may not be as stringent as those required for factory-installed seats.

Here are new aftermarket seats for sale, supplied by fsr-sportauto: "Porsche 911 964 993 RS Sitze Sportsitze TurboS Sport NGT M002 M003 Leder schwarz."

http://imageshack.com/a/img27/3826/sq0u.jpg

Originally Posted by curve lover (Post 11184250)

Hahn GFK produces these new aftermarket seats.

Contact them if you're interested in pricing & shipping specifics.

http://imageshack.com/a/img62/1589/fwyp.jpg


Another option: Cult-Werk.com's "Seats in racing style (for Porsche 911, Series 964 & 993)," currently on 10% discount winter sale.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...799ece7dc4.jpg

curve lover 12-26-2018 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by curve lover (Post 15522507)

From the "964 Euro RS “Cultwerk” Recaro Tri-Color Seats PENDING!!" thread on RL's Parts Marketplace forum:

Originally Posted by kecho

Category: Interior
Price (no $ sign please): $3500
Private or Vendor Listing: Private Listing
Part fits (select ONLY those which apply): 964
Location (Region): SoCAl
Item Condition: Brand New

SOLD, PENDING PAYMENT; I recently purchased a brand new pair of “Cultwerk” 964RS replica Recaro seats for my ‘92 Cup car, only to find an original set of Euro RS seats two weeks later. The fit, size, shape and leather are spot on to my original RS seats. These are not the suspension type found in the 964 Speedster, however they will fit any 964. The pair includes all the necessary hardware, brackets and sliders with the exception of the seat belt receivers (you can use yours). These seats are made in Austria and are absolutely beautiful and would enhance any 964. Mounted and used for only two weeks with barely 30 hours of seat time. My loss is your gain. I paid north of $4,300 for everything including shipping and taxes. Selling price is $3,500 plus shipping/insurance(if applicable). Please PM or email me if you’re interested. Thx, Chris

Kecho356@sbcglobal.net

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curve lover 12-26-2018 04:55 PM

From the "WTS Cult Werks 964/993 RS Replica Seats w/ Extras $$$" thread:

Originally Posted by gt2-josh (Post 15490119)

I purchased these on RL a short while ago but my plans have changed. The seats are exact replicas of 964/993 RS seats. These seats are in outstanding condition. No scatches, shiny spots or bunching on the front and no nicks chips or scratches on the back. I am confident saying they are as new. I want $2750. For that price I will include:

Seats with replica FIA and part number stickers
Side Mounts
Recaro Rails and Sliders
Seat Bases for use in 996/997
Brey Krause Adapters for use in place of the seat bases
Porsche 997 Black front seat belts
Porsche Seat Belt Receptacles

Local pick up in San Francisco or I can arrange delivery in the Bay Area. Please PM with questions. Thanks! Best Josh

Originally Posted by gt2-josh (Post 15490138)
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4d6251f5fe.jpg
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Originally Posted by gt2-josh (Post 15490143)




APEXHNTR 12-31-2018 04:11 AM

The black seats above are not true Carrera RS seats.

ilko 02-13-2019 04:21 PM

Here's something I discovered recently...


psouth48 02-26-2019 11:08 PM

I have the OEM Recaro seat from a 1973 RSR, driven by Roberto Quintanilla, entered by John McClelland in 1973 and 1975. It raced at Daytona, Sebring, etc.
Quintanilla liked a different seat, and removed the original Recaro. I crewed for them at several races, and knew McClelland well. I put the seat in my GP Austin Healey for many years, but it has been stored for many more years. Do you have any idea of what it would be worth? I would like to see it back in a racing Porsche.

tjb616 11-05-2019 10:11 AM

Bumping this excellent resource to mention that I will be listing a 964 Cup Car seat for sale in the next week. If anyone is looking for one feel free to shoot me a message.

Maxi_z 02-15-2020 04:40 PM

Does anyone know if the RS replica seats sold by FVD the cult works and the Hahn are all the same seat or if they should be build at different places?


Barryj 09-14-2020 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by GeorgeK (Post 12248369)
Possible additional source: the 968 CS had the same seats as the 964 RS, with a 944 part number. Same seat, different label. Had both, zero difference.

i came upon this thread when recently researching the seats I’ve pulled out of my 996 GT3RS race car, the above is true, here are the seats and the part numbers from my car.


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...517c854eb.jpeg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...66af58193.jpeg


Barryj 09-14-2020 07:26 PM

Also has anyone seen a seat with a number moulded into it before? This one has a number 8 on it.

GeorgeK 09-20-2020 12:44 PM

Yes. One of mine with a 944 label has a "13" moulded into it.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...861779a463.jpg


paulkromz 09-20-2020 12:52 PM

could this "moulded number" be a sticker painted over? Look next to the pic with the number 8.... looks suspect to me... but could be part of the moulding itself.

Now I gotta check mine!

:roflmao:

Barryj 09-20-2020 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by paulkromz (Post 16916732)
could this "moulded number" be a sticker painted over? Look next to the pic with the number 8.... looks suspect to me... but could be part of the moulding itself.

Now I gotta check mine!

:roflmao:

it’s an odd one, looks like the original seat sticker is painted over, but the porsche part number sticker isn’t, yes the number 8 could be a sticker painted over. My thinking is that the seats were painted at the factory as it’s a race car without the same care to remove stickers, but the part number sticker was applied after the seat was painted.

All guesswork though of course.

Barryj 09-20-2020 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by GeorgeK (Post 16916712)
Yes. One of mine with a 944 label has a "13" moulded into it.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...861779a463.jpg

what vehicle is this seat out of please?

SSTAR 09-24-2020 03:20 PM

I just pulled my pair out of storage. I believe these are from a 964 Speedster.

I'm working to get these useable in a 993:
1) Does anybody have a good source for new bolster leather (the back surround down to the front)? Porsche OEM? Recaro?
2) Any source for the clips to repair/ replace the "trampoline" to frame attachment supports/ clips (see pic)?

Any help appreciated! Beautiful seats in this thread!
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...3f87278a81.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...cb13a3d273.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...79cdb2319d.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...250b136e23.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...57f6d3d025.jpg

CorrdoBrit 09-24-2020 03:33 PM

^^^ Talk to Group911@aol.com

GeorgeK 09-24-2020 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by Barryj (Post 16916768)
what vehicle is this seat out of please?

When I bought them, I was told they were out of a 993 GT2. I have no way of verifying that, although it came from a racing team. I got the thin defroster-less rear glass from them as well.

Barryj 09-24-2020 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by GeorgeK (Post 16925739)
When I bought them, I was told they were out of a 993 GT2. I have no way of verifying that, although it came from a racing team. I got the thin defroster-less rear glass from them as well.

interesting, as the seats I posted also came from a car that was destined for racing From the factory it seems like no coincidence that they both have the numbers on them.

Nurburger 09-25-2020 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by SSTAR (Post 16925636)
I just pulled my pair out of storage. I believe these are from a 964 Speedster.

I'm working to get these useable in a 993:
1) Does anybody have a good source for new bolster leather (the back surround down to the front)? Porsche OEM? Recaro?
2) Any source for the clips to repair/ replace the "trampoline" to frame attachment supports/ clips (see pic)?

Any help appreciated! Beautiful seats in this thread!

Unless you are trying to keep them original, I'd recommend just ditching the tramps & have a 2" thick section of fabric covered seat foam attached to the bottom cushion. I have this in my 964 with speedster seats & it works perfectly in both comfort and raising the bottom cushion enough to conceal the holes left from the tramp hangers. I can send you some pictures if helpful.

techweenie 07-15-2022 06:28 PM

Reviving this old thread because there are a pair of 964 Speedster seats up on Bringatrailer right now.

Carlos993 07-15-2022 10:34 PM

Speaking of seats....

The OEM hardbacks are still my favorite seats, but I recently installed Recaro Podiums on a project car. Amazingly light, easy installation, but surprisingly comfortable. No issues after 2 hours of spirited driving, I was impressed.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...57d78f5fa0.jpg





Gbos1 07-16-2022 12:59 AM

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ilko 01-05-2023 08:38 PM

I have a set of 964 Speedster seats available if anyone's interested...


ryano 01-18-2023 07:48 PM

Incredible… I would love to source a set

cheez80 01-19-2023 12:15 AM


Originally Posted by Carlos993 (Post 18251494)
Speaking of seats....

The OEM hardbacks are still my favorite seats, but I recently installed Recaro Podiums on a project car. Amazingly light, easy installation, but surprisingly comfortable. No issues after 2 hours of spirited driving, I was impressed.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...57d78f5fa0.jpg

hey @Carlos993, did you use specific mounting hardware for these? sorry to ask so much time later. thanks!

ninjabones 01-19-2023 12:12 PM

Just a word of caution those interested in the RS/speedster seats or standard pole position seats. They are definitely designed for those more svelte physique. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the RS/Speedster seats offer the same fit as the standard FIA Pole Position.

Regarding the standard FIA Pole Position, I'd say if you have a 34" waist or larger, it is super tight and not comfortable. For the girthier (like me), you're much better off with a slightly wider seat (e.g. SPG XL or the ABE Pole Position). I have both SPG XL and ABE Pole Position and did a side-by-side comparison, and they offer essentially the same fit (albeit with some subtle differences in thigh bolster, harness opening location and size, and shoulder bolster area support).

Here's a comparison of the ABE Pole position (left) vs FIA Pole Position (right). Just some infor for anyone considering these seats.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7e7e3583c1.png

ninjabones 01-19-2023 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by cheez80 (Post 18580167)
hey @Carlos993, did you use specific mounting hardware for these? sorry to ask so much time later. thanks!

Here's the definitive thread (thanks to Bill Verberg) on installing Recaros in a 993

https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...n-a-993-a.html


Foxman 01-21-2023 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by ninjabones (Post 18580800)
Just a word of caution those interested in the RS/speedster seats or standard pole position seats. They are definitely designed for those more svelte physique. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the RS/Speedster seats offer the same fit as the standard FIA Pole Position.

Regarding the standard FIA Pole Position, I'd say if you have a 34" waist or larger, it is super tight and not comfortable. For the girthier (like me), you're much better off with a slightly wider seat (e.g. SPG XL or the ABE Pole Position). I have both SPG XL and ABE Pole Position and did a side-by-side comparison, and they offer essentially the same fit (albeit with some subtle differences in thigh bolster, harness opening location and size, and shoulder bolster area support).

Here's a comparison of the ABE Pole position (left) vs FIA Pole Position (right). Just some infor for anyone considering these seats.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7e7e3583c1.png

Thanks for posting this, great comparison.

Here’s a good Article noting the difference between the FIA and ABE.

Also important to note, sadly, that these seats are not recommended for drivers over six feet tall. They’re too short, and they get very uncomfortable. And the slots for the harnesses are too low. At 6’4”, this has been a major disappointment.


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