Was turbo front bumper ever a C2 option?
#16
Burning Brakes
x50type and dpowell, it's deja vu all over again. Seems like we've had this discussion before.
That is not a turbo front bumper nor a Turbo S rear wing in the photos of x50type's AeroKit II.
However, I have seen pictures of dpowell's AeroKit 2 on his NB and he does have a turbo front bumper and Turbo S wing, as he said.
I don't think we ever resolved this contradiction much less the option codes.
That is not a turbo front bumper nor a Turbo S rear wing in the photos of x50type's AeroKit II.
However, I have seen pictures of dpowell's AeroKit 2 on his NB and he does have a turbo front bumper and Turbo S wing, as he said.
I don't think we ever resolved this contradiction much less the option codes.
#17
Three Wheelin'
Hi dpowell
I'm still trying to get to the bottom of this confusing issue.
Do you know if your car came with US turbo bumper (bumperettes and no turbo S air ducts)
- Aero Kit 1B rockers (which are really skirts)
- Turbo S rear spoiler from the factory or were they fitted by PO?
What is noted on your under hood label?
Thanks
I'm still trying to get to the bottom of this confusing issue.
Do you know if your car came with US turbo bumper (bumperettes and no turbo S air ducts)
- Aero Kit 1B rockers (which are really skirts)
- Turbo S rear spoiler from the factory or were they fitted by PO?
What is noted on your under hood label?
Thanks
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EDIT: Since the X61 code refers to the front treatment as "spoilers", could it be refering to the spoilers that X50type posted and a previous owner had changed it out to a Turbo bumper? Seems that the code would have said "Turbo bumper" instead of "spoiler".
Last edited by jimbo3; 07-05-2011 at 11:22 PM.
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#20
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Absolutely an option, albeit dealer installed, not from factory on a C2. I have the 993 hard back option/accessory book, and it is listed, as is the split grille and other things like air ducts, etc. The text specifically describes these things as available at the dealer for installation...
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^^^That explains (I think) why two cars can have the same code on the factory sticker, but end up with different pieces. It's possible (probable?) that Dpowell's front bumper looked like X's car when it left the factory, but the dealer added the Turbo bumper before delivering to original owner, correct?
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Hi All,
The Porsche Tequipment brochure states that the Aero Kit II can be fitted by the factory or the dealer, so that resolves that.
Now the "Aero Kit II" comes with the turbo front bumper (and one part front spoiler) and turbo S rear spoiler and no side skirts.
The "Aero Kit I" comes with a two-part spoiler below the front apron and a rear bi-plane spoiler (simular to the turbo-S spoiler, but not the same as the turbo S spoiler) this is for NB cars
Side skirts are a seperate option to the "Aero Kit I" or "Aero Kit II".
Then there was the "Aerokit Turbo" option for NB cars, that came with the turbo bumper and standard turbo rear wing.
Now in saying all this Porsche were willing to add any option on their "M" list if you were willing to pay for it, and it did have to fit, including painting a 993 any colour you wanted, if you were willing to pay for it.
The information above was taken directly from the Three different year, Porsche Exclusive & Tequipment Brochures/Booklets I have.
I have a C2 with the turbo front bumper and the turbo S spoiler, but I have been unable to discover if this was fitted by the factory or dealer, it is not on the ID sticker under the bonnet. I did not own the car from new, although there is no wiring or console switch for the standard rear spoiler.
There was a special C2 993 released in the US and Japan that came standard with the Aero Kit II fitted, not sure what this was called but it is noted in a couple of 993 books I have.
Thanks,
The Porsche Tequipment brochure states that the Aero Kit II can be fitted by the factory or the dealer, so that resolves that.
Now the "Aero Kit II" comes with the turbo front bumper (and one part front spoiler) and turbo S rear spoiler and no side skirts.
The "Aero Kit I" comes with a two-part spoiler below the front apron and a rear bi-plane spoiler (simular to the turbo-S spoiler, but not the same as the turbo S spoiler) this is for NB cars
Side skirts are a seperate option to the "Aero Kit I" or "Aero Kit II".
Then there was the "Aerokit Turbo" option for NB cars, that came with the turbo bumper and standard turbo rear wing.
Now in saying all this Porsche were willing to add any option on their "M" list if you were willing to pay for it, and it did have to fit, including painting a 993 any colour you wanted, if you were willing to pay for it.
The information above was taken directly from the Three different year, Porsche Exclusive & Tequipment Brochures/Booklets I have.
I have a C2 with the turbo front bumper and the turbo S spoiler, but I have been unable to discover if this was fitted by the factory or dealer, it is not on the ID sticker under the bonnet. I did not own the car from new, although there is no wiring or console switch for the standard rear spoiler.
There was a special C2 993 released in the US and Japan that came standard with the Aero Kit II fitted, not sure what this was called but it is noted in a couple of 993 books I have.
Thanks,
#23
Burning Brakes
Thanks Neil Perry, that is how I understood the two Aero Kits to be. In a previous thread I told x50type I thought he had what I had known as the Aero Kit 1B on his NB, but was not 100% sure.
I had always thought the Aero Kit II was for WBs only, hence no need for sideskirts, but you are telling me that it was available for NBs, too. Interesting.
Jimbo3, dpowell's turbo bumper IIRC also had the Turbo S front spoiler, which may account for the "spoiler" reference for the X61 code.
EDIT: My bad. I found the previous thread and from the pictures it looks like dpowell does NOT have the Turbo S front spoiler like I thought I remembered. Nevermind.
At least it appears that the OP got his question answered.
I had always thought the Aero Kit II was for WBs only, hence no need for sideskirts, but you are telling me that it was available for NBs, too. Interesting.
Jimbo3, dpowell's turbo bumper IIRC also had the Turbo S front spoiler, which may account for the "spoiler" reference for the X61 code.
EDIT: My bad. I found the previous thread and from the pictures it looks like dpowell does NOT have the Turbo S front spoiler like I thought I remembered. Nevermind.
At least it appears that the OP got his question answered.
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#24
Three Wheelin'
Huh!
Sorry guys -
Aero kit I, Aero kit II, Aero kit 1B, NB, WB, WB Turbo, Tequipment, C of A, Factory installed, Dealer installed, Under Hood Label.
All I know is that my C of A from Porsche NA says, "Aero Kit II, Spoilers/Rockers. The original window sticker lists 13 non standard items with the prices - including Aero Kit II, Spoilers Rockers.
So i'm still lost.
Aero kit I, Aero kit II, Aero kit 1B, NB, WB, WB Turbo, Tequipment, C of A, Factory installed, Dealer installed, Under Hood Label.
All I know is that my C of A from Porsche NA says, "Aero Kit II, Spoilers/Rockers. The original window sticker lists 13 non standard items with the prices - including Aero Kit II, Spoilers Rockers.
So i'm still lost.
Last edited by x50type; 07-06-2011 at 02:28 PM.
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x50type, I have the same issues with my car is it factory fitted, is it dealer fitted, I would like to know, but at the end of the day, the information is what it is and I just don't care, I enjoy my car just the way I want it and just the way it is, if your car is as you want it, than that's all that matters.
These issues are one of the positives of the 993, part hand made and all sorts of variences that's what makes the 993 what it is.
You don't have these issues with the 996, 997's as they are full production line cars..............
Thanks
x50type, I have the same issues with my car is it factory fitted, is it dealer fitted, I would like to know, but at the end of the day, the information is what it is and I just don't care, I enjoy my car just the way I want it and just the way it is, if your car is as you want it, than that's all that matters.
These issues are one of the positives of the 993, part hand made and all sorts of variences that's what makes the 993 what it is.
You don't have these issues with the 996, 997's as they are full production line cars..............
Thanks
#26
Three Wheelin'
Hi Neil,
It's turned into quite a conundrum, and, as you say - we enjoy our cars just the way they are.
i was hoping dpowell could throw some light on the subject when i asked. "Do you know if your car came with US turbo bumper (bumperettes and no turbo S air ducts)
- Aero Kit 1B rockers (which are really skirts)
- Turbo S rear spoiler from the factory or were they fitted by PO?
What is noted on your under hood label?"
Agree, the variances make the 993 unique and a really great car.
i have a 996 Turbo [x50] but my 993C4 is my first choice.
Happy driving.
It's turned into quite a conundrum, and, as you say - we enjoy our cars just the way they are.
i was hoping dpowell could throw some light on the subject when i asked. "Do you know if your car came with US turbo bumper (bumperettes and no turbo S air ducts)
- Aero Kit 1B rockers (which are really skirts)
- Turbo S rear spoiler from the factory or were they fitted by PO?
What is noted on your under hood label?"
Agree, the variances make the 993 unique and a really great car.
i have a 996 Turbo [x50] but my 993C4 is my first choice.
Happy driving.
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Hi X50type,
I have mentioned a number of times, I have some documentation that there was a special version of the 993 NB realased in the US and Japan where the NB came with the Aerokit II, that is front turbo bumper and turbo S spoiler, but no extra air ducts at the front of the rear guards, interestingly that is what my car has in Australia, but this was not a version avaliable here, but you could order the Aero kit II option as per the Tequipment.
I have a friend that has a 997 and once he went for a drive in my 993, he wanted to swap, this was not going to happen.
Happy driving our 993's
I have mentioned a number of times, I have some documentation that there was a special version of the 993 NB realased in the US and Japan where the NB came with the Aerokit II, that is front turbo bumper and turbo S spoiler, but no extra air ducts at the front of the rear guards, interestingly that is what my car has in Australia, but this was not a version avaliable here, but you could order the Aero kit II option as per the Tequipment.
I have a friend that has a 997 and once he went for a drive in my 993, he wanted to swap, this was not going to happen.
Happy driving our 993's
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Hi All,
I have another can of worms-
It states in the Porsche Tequipment book- quote that "All aerokits and spoilers have been aerodynamically tested in Porsche's wind tunnel. Please note that to maintain the dynamic stability of the car, front or rear spoilers must not be fitted seperatly"
Then how is that if C2S and C4S have the front turbo bumper, that gives more down force, but no rear spoiler, whats the story?
Then that being the case the turbo models come with the rear spoiler, but if the C2S and C4S is right that makes the turbo balance wrong.
Yes, I know the front bumper is not a spoiler, but it is designed to give more down force,
but Porsche add the spoiler on the back of the turbo with no extra down force over the C2 and C4.
Can anyone answer that?
Thanks
I have another can of worms-
It states in the Porsche Tequipment book- quote that "All aerokits and spoilers have been aerodynamically tested in Porsche's wind tunnel. Please note that to maintain the dynamic stability of the car, front or rear spoilers must not be fitted seperatly"
Then how is that if C2S and C4S have the front turbo bumper, that gives more down force, but no rear spoiler, whats the story?
Then that being the case the turbo models come with the rear spoiler, but if the C2S and C4S is right that makes the turbo balance wrong.
Yes, I know the front bumper is not a spoiler, but it is designed to give more down force,
but Porsche add the spoiler on the back of the turbo with no extra down force over the C2 and C4.
Can anyone answer that?
Thanks
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The areo kit turbo is for narrow body cars, this has the turbo front bumper and rear spoiler in it. No other kit has a bumper in it.