I'm tired of this "designed to be driven hard" nonsense
02-17-2011, 08:04 PM
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02-17-2011, 08:05 PM
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"In my view, the cars were designed to be driven (on the street, with occasional track use) at a varying level of throttle load and rpm."
The 993 Promotional Video from Porsche states,
"The engineer that works on these cars knows when he goes to work in the morning that the car he is working will undoubtedly be driven absolutly as fast as it will go for the entire duratin of a tank of gas."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guDH-...eature=related
Just saying.
Maybe he only meant ONE tank of gas and all the other tank fulls are for putting around town???
The video doesn't say that NOT driving "absolutly as fast as it will go" will be detrimental to the engine. But what fun is that?
Please don't rip me too bad (Quadcammer scares me)
Darell
The 993 Promotional Video from Porsche states,
"The engineer that works on these cars knows when he goes to work in the morning that the car he is working will undoubtedly be driven absolutly as fast as it will go for the entire duratin of a tank of gas."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guDH-...eature=related
Just saying.
Maybe he only meant ONE tank of gas and all the other tank fulls are for putting around town???
The video doesn't say that NOT driving "absolutly as fast as it will go" will be detrimental to the engine. But what fun is that?
Please don't rip me too bad (Quadcammer scares me)
Darell
It is a belligerent argument. We may be Porsche fans but have day jobs in other lines of work. Just saying.Thats perfectly fine...but when you, or others, start suggesting (as was noted in the 997 thread) that OTHERS should follow your stated way of driving, I take issue.
02-17-2011, 08:07 PM
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As I read it a big part of Quadcammer's point is the implication that if you don't drive hard then you are doing harm to your engine, at least relative to driving hard. I think it is fair to say that these cars are certainly designed to be driven hard but is it beneficial? I don't think so. Sure, it's relatively beneficial if you compare it to lugging. But if the gauge is looking at the extremes then compare the longevity of a stock, track only engine to a stock, street driven engine (like 90%+ of us here). Unless the street car is a short distance, unloved and lugged beast it's very unlikely the track engine will last longer. Do I have proof? Of course not, but I do have common sense and compelling anecdotal evidence. How long do most of our engines last and how many races does Porsche do between engine rebuilds? And those are engines specifically built to race. Quadcammer's point may be a bit strong but I have yet to hear an argument that effectively counters it. IMHO: does driving hard hurt our engines? Not much. Do short distance drives and lugging hurt our engines? Sure can. But, does moderate, normal street driving (which is what most of us who still have our licenses do) cause implied harm because we're not driving HARD? Sorry, I don't think so.
completely agreed, but I take offense to the notion that its beneficial for the engine to drive it hard.