Rear Toe Control Arms
#46
OK, first drive, unaligned, with the new bars. It needs alignment, but the swaying I had before is gone. I've chased this forever, and now it seems fixed. Will post install pics soon!
#48
I had a totally new alignment along with the new arms and other work too, so I can't be sure what the actual fix was, but if the rear toe value was actually changing mid-corner due to the worn parts, that seems to makes sense as far as what I was feeling. It was not pleasant.
#49
But both of you guys just changed to the toe arm and not the rest of the arms, right? Interesting that it seems to change the dynamics quite a bit, although having an alignment may also contribute to the corrections.
Cheers,
Mike
Cheers,
Mike
#50
#51
From what others have said, the toe control arms are the ones to worry about. And the hunting issue was even in a straight line, higher speeds usually, it just felt light and worrisome in the back end.
It felt much better planted on my first drive.
Just scheduled my alignment today, they can't fit me in until June 5th! But I'll wait patiently until then, the guy who does it is a perfectionist with a ton of experience on Porsches and 993's.
It felt much better planted on my first drive.
Just scheduled my alignment today, they can't fit me in until June 5th! But I'll wait patiently until then, the guy who does it is a perfectionist with a ton of experience on Porsches and 993's.
#52
has anyone else installed tarett locking plates?
and noticed any issues?
it seems like the locking plates were designed to fit in the eccentric slot and then they drilled the bolt hole in the wrong spot.
placed in the slot the locking plate is a good fit but it needs to be raised up 6mm to slide the bolt in place.
it will likely still act as a locking plate but I'm wondering if this is actually a generic product that needs to be redrilled to fit a 993 correctly.
so has anyone drilled the hole higher or have you just used as is?
and yes, 4 years later the bolts are still too long, in my case they hit either the sway bar or heater pipes.
and noticed any issues?
it seems like the locking plates were designed to fit in the eccentric slot and then they drilled the bolt hole in the wrong spot.
placed in the slot the locking plate is a good fit but it needs to be raised up 6mm to slide the bolt in place.
it will likely still act as a locking plate but I'm wondering if this is actually a generic product that needs to be redrilled to fit a 993 correctly.
so has anyone drilled the hole higher or have you just used as is?
and yes, 4 years later the bolts are still too long, in my case they hit either the sway bar or heater pipes.
#53
Booties
I have booties (Rubber covers) for my ERP camber and toe dog bones. I believe I got them from Tarrett Engineering. I will get the kinematic toe links one of these days.
Iras Rainin from Tarrett Engineering is really good on customer service. And Steve Weiber is tops as well.
Iras Rainin from Tarrett Engineering is really good on customer service. And Steve Weiber is tops as well.
#54
Should work fine - here is the Tarett locks on a 993.
When I fit them on my Targa, there were no issues, but you might want to try them upside down, I seem to remember the orientation was not obvious.
Cheers,
Mike
When I fit them on my Targa, there were no issues, but you might want to try them upside down, I seem to remember the orientation was not obvious.
Cheers,
Mike
#55
has anyone else installed tarett locking plates?
and noticed any issues?
it seems like the locking plates were designed to fit in the eccentric slot and then they drilled the bolt hole in the wrong spot.
placed in the slot the locking plate is a good fit but it needs to be raised up 6mm to slide the bolt in place.
it will likely still act as a locking plate but I'm wondering if this is actually a generic product that needs to be redrilled to fit a 993 correctly.
so has anyone drilled the hole higher or have you just used as is?
and yes, 4 years later the bolts are still too long, in my case they hit either the sway bar or heater pipes.
and noticed any issues?
it seems like the locking plates were designed to fit in the eccentric slot and then they drilled the bolt hole in the wrong spot.
placed in the slot the locking plate is a good fit but it needs to be raised up 6mm to slide the bolt in place.
it will likely still act as a locking plate but I'm wondering if this is actually a generic product that needs to be redrilled to fit a 993 correctly.
so has anyone drilled the hole higher or have you just used as is?
and yes, 4 years later the bolts are still too long, in my case they hit either the sway bar or heater pipes.
Any one got pics of the Rennlines?
#56
thanks, I just wanted to know if it had been common practice to just drill the hole higher.
and yeh, it was only 3 bucks for the correct bolts, but I figure for 108 delivered they could send the correct size in the first place. it seems to me nobody at tarett has actually put these on a 993 otherwise they'd notice the bolts are too long and the hole is in the wrong spot.
otherwise a nice product, very thick 303 stainless steel plates cut to fit the slot perfectly.
and yeh, it was only 3 bucks for the correct bolts, but I figure for 108 delivered they could send the correct size in the first place. it seems to me nobody at tarett has actually put these on a 993 otherwise they'd notice the bolts are too long and the hole is in the wrong spot.
otherwise a nice product, very thick 303 stainless steel plates cut to fit the slot perfectly.
#57
That is weird because when I did this years ago, I did not have to do any adjustments to the plates - the bolts and plates lined up well, but I do remember the locking plate fit a bit weird, they were upside down from what I would have thought the proper position would be. Unfortunately, I do not have any pictures of it, and no longer have that car..... does it fit with the square part to the bottom?
#58
yes, it fits either direction with the bolt in place and locks the link from horizontal movement, there are no functional issues. it looks better upside down(to the instructions) but works either way.
my only question was that either direction there is a 6mm gap between the locking plate and eccentric slot bottom with the bolt in place.
but if you put the plate in the eccentric slot 'right side up' without a bolt it fits like it grew there, very tight and snug(1st pic). it is possible that fitting perfectly is a total accident and the 6mm gap was intended.
my only question was that either direction there is a 6mm gap between the locking plate and eccentric slot bottom with the bolt in place.
but if you put the plate in the eccentric slot 'right side up' without a bolt it fits like it grew there, very tight and snug(1st pic). it is possible that fitting perfectly is a total accident and the 6mm gap was intended.
#59
Looks to me like the hole in the jam plates were drilled in the center.
#60
As I recall, the only issue for the Tarrett locking plates is which side is up, and which side faced the cross-beam. They were perfectly symmetrical side-to-side.
But top-to-bottom, they were not symmetrical. Bottom had a chamfer on it, and that chamfer should be pointed to the cross-beam.
Hopefully that helps someone. I know I spent a few minutes making sure I had it right. And I didn't have any issue with the holes not aligning.
But top-to-bottom, they were not symmetrical. Bottom had a chamfer on it, and that chamfer should be pointed to the cross-beam.
Hopefully that helps someone. I know I spent a few minutes making sure I had it right. And I didn't have any issue with the holes not aligning.