M030 facts I did not know
10-25-2006, 12:11 AM
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These are the part numbers for the ROW M030. There is only one spring. Ask Gert if you don't believe me (he has surely sold more than most dealers) or do a search for some of Viken's old posts, etc.
Front damper: 993.343.041/042.35 - red color with yellow color dot
Rear damper: 993.333.051/052.35 - red color with yellow dot
Front spring: 965.343.531.01 - orange & green color dots
Rear spring: 993.333.531.11 - brown color dot
Front damper: 993.343.041/042.35 - red color with yellow color dot
Rear damper: 993.333.051/052.35 - red color with yellow dot
Front spring: 965.343.531.01 - orange & green color dots
Rear spring: 993.333.531.11 - brown color dot
10-25-2006, 12:22 AM
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The CEO of the dealership you are talking about (actually owned by Porsche AG) is a close friend since 32 years, and his employees cannot afford anything at my expense
If you are used to getting laughed at, do not think everybody has the same fate.
A person thinks before he speaks.
If you are used to getting laughed at, do not think everybody has the same fate.
A person thinks before he speaks.
10-25-2006, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by geolab
The CEO of the dealership you are talking about (actually owned by Porsche AG) is a close friend since 32 years, and his employees cannot afford anything at my expense
If you are used to getting laughed at, do not think everybody has the same fate.
A person thinks before he speaks.
If you are used to getting laughed at, do not think everybody has the same fate.
A person thinks before he speaks.
That may be the case. But your CEO FRIENDS are wrong, in a way not seen in awhile.
But hey, it is what it is....But please don't try to represent what they are telling you as facts.
10-25-2006, 12:36 AM
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10-25-2006, 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Greg Fishman
I think the guys at his dealership are having a good laugh at his expense right now. This thread is wrong on so many levels.
...sorry, just couldn't resist.
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10-25-2006, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Fill
That may be the case. But your CEO FRIENDS are wrong, in a way not seen in awhile.
But hey, it is what it is....But please don't try to represent what they are telling you as facts.
But hey, it is what it is....But please don't try to represent what they are telling you as facts.
What is wrong? what are you talking about? state facts, be more clear.
Why the hasty generalization?
10-25-2006, 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by geolab
What is wrong? what are you talking about? state facts, be more clear.
Why the hasty generalization?
Why the hasty generalization?
10-25-2006, 01:00 AM
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Can anyone tell me what is the difference between these two part numbers?
993-333-531-11
993-333-531-16
The part number ending with 16 is what is listed on my invoice for rear ROW M030 springs.
993-333-531-11
993-333-531-16
The part number ending with 16 is what is listed on my invoice for rear ROW M030 springs.
10-25-2006, 01:06 AM
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993.333.531.11.504 M030 rear springs with brown stripes
993.333.531.16.504 Turbo rear springs with red stripes
993.333.531.16.504 Turbo rear springs with red stripes
10-25-2006, 01:12 AM
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Facts.
M029
std coupe/cab/targa
dampers = 993.343.041/042.37
marking is WHITE
coil spring=993.343.531.00
marking is RED
Lowered M033
coupe/cab/targa
std S/4S
damper = 993.343.041/042.38
marking is BLUE
coil spring= 993.343.531.04
marking is BLUE
M030
turbo/S/4S
damper = 993.343.041/042.35
marking is YELLOW
coil spring = 965.343.531.01
marking is ORANGE/GREEN
The marks are there to differentiate between the different types of springs and you will see that one, two and three marks do not mean street, track and race
M029
std coupe/cab/targa
dampers = 993.343.041/042.37
marking is WHITE
coil spring=993.343.531.00
marking is RED
Lowered M033
coupe/cab/targa
std S/4S
damper = 993.343.041/042.38
marking is BLUE
coil spring= 993.343.531.04
marking is BLUE
M030
turbo/S/4S
damper = 993.343.041/042.35
marking is YELLOW
coil spring = 965.343.531.01
marking is ORANGE/GREEN
The marks are there to differentiate between the different types of springs and you will see that one, two and three marks do not mean street, track and race
10-25-2006, 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Fill
The marks are there to differentiate between the different types of springs and you will see that one, two and three marks do not mean street, track and race
After you do, please tell us (or ask Greg Fisherman) what are the different stripes numbers Porsche is talking about, and why did they alocate different shims for different numbers of stripes?
Maybe at the factory they didn't know also, and you might LBO Zell
10-25-2006, 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by geolab
Have you taken the effort to read the .pdf file from the workshop manual in this post?
After you do, please tell us (or ask Greg Fisherman) what are the different stripes numbers Porsche is talking about, and why did they alocate different shims for different numbers of stripes?
Maybe at the factory they didn't know also, and you might LBO Zell
After you do, please tell us (or ask Greg Fisherman) what are the different stripes numbers Porsche is talking about, and why did they alocate different shims for different numbers of stripes?
Maybe at the factory they didn't know also, and you might LBO Zell
geo dude,
The marks are there to differentiate between the different types of springs and you will see that one, two and three marks do not mean street, track and race.
10-25-2006, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Fill
Facts.
M029
std coupe/cab/targa
dampers = 993.343.041/042.37
marking is WHITE
coil spring=993.343.531.00
marking is RED
M029
std coupe/cab/targa
dampers = 993.343.041/042.37
marking is WHITE
coil spring=993.343.531.00
marking is RED
"Please don't try to represent what they are telling you as facts"
M029 does not exist
the coupé/cab/targa standard suspension is called touring suspension,
and the code is M032
10-25-2006, 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Fill
geo dude,
The marks are there to differentiate between the different types of springs and you will see that one, two and three marks do not mean street, track and race.
The marks are there to differentiate between the different types of springs and you will see that one, two and three marks do not mean street, track and race.
And please also, why did porsche allocate different shims for that? Thank you for your answer
10-25-2006, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by geolab
I was at the stealer purchasing the missing parts for my suspension DIY.
I was surprised when I asked for the m030 springs, the P-shop salesman asked me
which softness I wanted on the springs.
Me being practically sure, I replied M030.
After asking me 3 times the same question, then came the info.
It seems the M030 springs come in three kinds, soft, medium, hard. (thus street, street-track, track)
To know which is what, it seems that the springs number of colored lines painted
on them is the code.
1 line street
2 lines is street-track
3 lines is track
on top of this, the rear strut set-up have shims .
for 1 line springs- 8.0 mm shim part number 993.333.511.02
for two lines 5.5mm # 993.333.511.01
for three lines 3.0mm # 993.333.511.00
And when I asked for three stripes, he called the chief mechanic for more explanation. (I know these guys well)
The mechanic said that if I mount three stripes(track) for street use, this will shaken the car more and make things rattle.
'Coup de grace' was the shop salesman telling me that he doesn't care if I wanted three stripes, and that he had loads of three stripes in stock, and could give me 15% on those.
So I chose front two stripes orange, green, and rear two stripes brown,
with the 5.5mm shim.
I have taken a picture of my new springs, and a three stripe picture from the net.
Has anyone had this experience before?
I was surprised when I asked for the m030 springs, the P-shop salesman asked me
which softness I wanted on the springs.
Me being practically sure, I replied M030.
After asking me 3 times the same question, then came the info.
It seems the M030 springs come in three kinds, soft, medium, hard. (thus street, street-track, track)
To know which is what, it seems that the springs number of colored lines painted
on them is the code.
1 line street
2 lines is street-track
3 lines is track
on top of this, the rear strut set-up have shims .
for 1 line springs- 8.0 mm shim part number 993.333.511.02
for two lines 5.5mm # 993.333.511.01
for three lines 3.0mm # 993.333.511.00
And when I asked for three stripes, he called the chief mechanic for more explanation. (I know these guys well)
The mechanic said that if I mount three stripes(track) for street use, this will shaken the car more and make things rattle.
'Coup de grace' was the shop salesman telling me that he doesn't care if I wanted three stripes, and that he had loads of three stripes in stock, and could give me 15% on those.
So I chose front two stripes orange, green, and rear two stripes brown,
with the 5.5mm shim.
I have taken a picture of my new springs, and a three stripe picture from the net.
Has anyone had this experience before?
and you do? please show me in the pdf file, were the "street, street/track/ and track are
oh, and just for the hell of it.......if you go with your choice of "orange, green and brown"....they won't match!
you need to consult "garanaimals"....