993 WB Values are UP!!!
05-24-2021, 10:34 PM
#451
My car has a full Transmission re-gear to GT specs as well ... worked with G-Box in CO. Full Engine out as well new LSD clutch plates etc...$6k in full exhaust work, Bilstein Suspension list goes on and on... many RS parts throughout the car..... I have a stack of documentation of all my modifications in the last 5 years. Labor isn’t cheap when you want things done right. Who are you to assume what I have when it’s all guesswork on your behalf ... don’t waste your time with your calculator. I could care less who he is. 
Last edited by rk-d; 05-24-2021 at 10:35 PM.
05-24-2021, 10:34 PM
#452
Rennlist Member
I will never sell this car. The money spent is irrelevant. I just wanted to squeeze every ounce of “Air Cooled” goodness out of it to the last drop. It’s a passion and hobby for me. The car will passed along to my daughter who is just as passionate about Porsche and Air Cooled cars as I am ....so to me, I don’t sweat it.
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05-24-2021, 10:43 PM
#453
Rennlist Member
I can easily see $60k. I'm probably $45k+ in the hole. Probably more. In fact, I'm sure it's more if I include the wheels. I've honestly stopping keeping track of the money. Things add up surprisingly quick, particularly if you use an expensive shop. Actually just ordered FDM's SSK with the wood **** to get installed this summer. It's a hobby - modding is part of the fun.
Honestly... 6 months ago I sat down and made a spreadsheet and started adding up all my invoices.... trust me I was shocked as well. It’s not hard to do on these cars when using mainly Porsche OEM, Porsche Classic Parts custom from Germany / OEM RS & CUP parts, quality parts in general...coupled with a great mechanic who’s Air Cooled 911 labor isn’t cheap. As the saying goes... “you gotta pay to play.”
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05-24-2021, 11:01 PM
#454
My car has a full Transmission re-gear to GT specs as well ... worked with G-Box in CO. Full Engine out as well new LSD clutch plates etc...$6k in full exhaust work, Bilstein Suspension list goes on and on... many RS parts throughout the car..... I have a stack of documentation of all my modifications in the last 5 years. Labor isn’t cheap when you want things done right. Who are you to assume what I have when it’s all guesswork on your behalf ... don’t waste your time with your calculator. I could care less who he is.
05-24-2021, 11:05 PM
#455
Rennlist Member
[QUOTE=Clark W Griswold;17451054]re-gear. sweet! Best mod possible I think.
Best mod hands down! Feels like it added an extra 50 HP to the car no lie! Always in the power starting at 3,200 RPM through each gear... 6th is just a cruising gear like over drive. Worth every penny. Transformed the car completely.
Best mod hands down! Feels like it added an extra 50 HP to the car no lie! Always in the power starting at 3,200 RPM through each gear... 6th is just a cruising gear like over drive. Worth every penny. Transformed the car completely.
05-24-2021, 11:14 PM
#456
Originally Posted by XUR
I'll state this again but.. that car had an accident history. The most important thing when trying to compare values is actually making sure it's apples-apples. Every detail counts.
05-25-2021, 04:02 PM
#457
Rennlist Member
i'd like to go back to the 'higher valuation/policy' discussion for a moment. i just got a quote for a potential new addition and it looks like i'm paying about $1 for each $114 of coverage per year (for 3 cars on that policy).
anybody doing much better than that? would certainly entertain some quotes to improve my numbers, if possible.
anybody doing much better than that? would certainly entertain some quotes to improve my numbers, if possible.
05-25-2021, 04:12 PM
#458
Drifting
Honestly... 6 months ago I sat down and made a spreadsheet and started adding up all my invoices.... trust me I was shocked as well. It’s not hard to do on these cars when using mainly Porsche OEM, Porsche Classic Parts custom from Germany / OEM RS & CUP parts, quality parts in general...coupled with a great mechanic who’s Air Cooled 911 labor isn’t cheap. As the saying goes... “you gotta pay to play.”
The euro gearing is something most don't realize the TT has too.
05-26-2021, 02:10 PM
#459
Update for those interested.....
Hagerty has declined increasing valuation again. They said that they have a PCA member that does research and provides current market values. Which feed into their valuation database. Also again didn't seem to like C4S as a basis for C2S values.
Seems that valuation will lag the market. This was the case when I was researching cars in Dec 2020 to Jan 2021.
Is this PCA member on Rennlist? Hopefully you can come forward.
Hagerty has declined increasing valuation again. They said that they have a PCA member that does research and provides current market values. Which feed into their valuation database. Also again didn't seem to like C4S as a basis for C2S values.
Seems that valuation will lag the market. This was the case when I was researching cars in Dec 2020 to Jan 2021.
Is this PCA member on Rennlist? Hopefully you can come forward.
05-26-2021, 02:50 PM
#461
Maybe your "Haggerty" does 
But no, the point is there are no public reference points for C2S sales in April or May. Last was early March, 1 car. Many C4S have been sold thereafter.
Assuming a C2S 36k miles, great condition, GR/Black would sell for $140K USD now. In my dollars after sales tax, I'm in the hole about $17K CAD on valuation.
BTW, Hagerty doesn't factor import duties. So I've removed that in my calculation above.
But no, the point is there are no public reference points for C2S sales in April or May. Last was early March, 1 car. Many C4S have been sold thereafter.
Assuming a C2S 36k miles, great condition, GR/Black would sell for $140K USD now. In my dollars after sales tax, I'm in the hole about $17K CAD on valuation.
BTW, Hagerty doesn't factor import duties. So I've removed that in my calculation above.
05-29-2021, 12:52 PM
#463
Banned
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...26k-miles.html
05-29-2021, 12:57 PM
#464
Banned
06-04-2021, 10:04 AM
#465
Does anyone have the production numbers for 993 turbos? It wouldn’t make sense for them to increase in price proportionate to how WB 993s have in the last 8 months. But then again I may be wrong.
I personally don’t think any kind of correction is coming any time soon.
I personally don’t think any kind of correction is coming any time soon.