my .1 T arrives the date of the launch ... no second thoughts

 

No it is Hybrid, T-HEV. I remember seeing 510bhp or 520bhp. The S (and the GT3) were supposed to launch Jan 2025 - so even with delays it will launch in the first half of 2025.

I have not really paid much attention to or asked questions about the S and I would love to find out more. The speculation is that it will have the 3.0L engine which I am not sure how it makes sense. On the other hand the late launch could be caused because it is more difficult to integrate the T-HEV on the 3.0L. I don't really know but the 510/520bhp is a fact.

I have also been trying to stick to an ICE only convertible but the answer was that the only one is the non s turbo - but it will be 2WD but also with a manual option. Or a GT3 of course.

 

is there a possibility that the base is offered with a manual? given that its a pure ice.

 

If it’s a manual T, S or GTS, it may actually appreciate some. Not sure if it’s a PDK or turbo/turbo S.

 

The reason I think the .2 will not crash .1 prices, is because of the "teething pains" associated with the new engine setup. Let the more aggressive buyers beta test it, by the time the 994 comes around the hybrid will be proved in and universal across the lineup and they will have a chance to engineer out the additional weight being added to the .2 (better battery technology, etc).

 

So are they going to keep producing the 992.1 S until 2025? Not sure how that will play, if I can get an 2025 Base with ICE (mild hybrid) and a bump to 400hp, why would I pay more for a 2024 992.1 S? Just give me the one-model-year-newer Base.

 

I have been told 100% no.

 

I have no idea but seems highly unlikely to continue the 992.1S.

Please note: the GTS is mild hybrid also. It uses the 400V e-turbo technology by Borg Warner.

 

k so the cheapest manual would be a t if a t comes. if not, the new 2wd turbo, which gets a new 3.6t engine?

 

As of now yes and yes. I have no info if a T is coming though or not.

 

Will be interesting to see how much people lament the hybridization vs the appeal of increased HP. Personally I’d rather have a 444 HP ICE S vs. first year model 520 HP mild hybrid but lots of people will gravitate towards the headline HP figure imo.

 

Silversurfer: Any news on the 992.2 price increase percentage? Is it 10%, 15%? Did the increase surprise you?

 

The "problem" though that these are the options for the next year or so:

992.1 production is stopping very soon.

So there are currently only the following choices:

1) 2024 Around 400bhp Carrera (Base)

2) 2024 541bhp mild hybrid GTS - maybe even 2025 delivery for US?

3) Early 2025 520bhp mild hybrid Carrera S

4) Early 2025 NA GT3

5) Hybrid Turbo but manual option (2WD) - not sure when

 

I have been told it is substantial. I was supposed to specify the car last week but did not have time. They told me around 10% but until I have something confirmed, nothing is accurate for me - I will try to visit this week. This is for the GTS.

10% on a gts 4 in europe is around 15-20k.

 

So there are going to be models with mild hybrids, and one or more models with the high performance T-HEV system, most of the rumors from reputable places that I have read suggest that the T-HEV system will go into a car positioned between the GTS and Turbo. The S will get a 48v mild hybrid 3.0 Turbo engine and GTS will get a mild hybrid 3.6L Turbo. If the T-HEV ends up in the GTS you can expect the car to become significantly more expensive than the S.

The T-HEV is what they will likely advertise as a "Hybrid 911", and what they have been running around the ring...they won't really talk much about the 48V system because those things are there purely for compliance reasons.