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Old Jun 4, 2024 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Defrag
I actually have a funny question.

How is that even possible, with extra torque and initial speed up GTS version should transfer the power way worse then 992.1 GTS, while .2 GTS and 4GTS have same 0-100km (or 0-60mph) stats?

https://prnt.sc/gafxGHoe9Im8

How is that even possible that rear and 4wd car have same 0-60mph? WIth that much extra torque the difference should be bigger then .1 GTS vs 4GTS, where it was 0.2s difference.
This is total speculation, but using the electric motor during the initial launch might play a role is dishing out traction right at the limit of tire slip, therefore reducing the advantage the AWD cars have in terms of getting the power down. If you’ve ever driven a fast EV, the ability of those cars to accelerate HARD with no discernible loss of traction is amazing. My daily Tesla Model 3P will do 0-60 3.2s in hot/cold/rain and just doesn’t slip, nor do you feel any traction intervention - it just goes. While that car is AWD, I’ve always assumed that the electric motors/controllers can modulate torque so much faster than an ICE that they can flirt with the limits of traction in ways that just aren’t possible with ICE. This could all be total BS, but I’m hopeful if there is some truth to it, the benefits will apply to launching the 992.2 RWD GTS.
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Old Jun 4, 2024 | 06:56 PM
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My Polestar does this too... no slip or wheel spin ever
3.8s 0-60 every time
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Old Jun 4, 2024 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluehighways
I don't think so. Here's my 992.1 versus the best picture I could find of the 992.2. It looks like two of the light control switches disappear on the 992.2 (maybe moved to the center LCD Display), but the real issue is the, lower half, what I'll call the "Tongue." This "Tongue" contains the Start Switch on the 992.1 and is simply an extension cover on the 992.2. If these "Tongue's were the same shape and size that'd be a good sign, but it sure looks like they're not. These "Tongue's are different shapes (Photoshop Overlay Tested) and the dash panel is shaped differently for each. The bottom of the 992.1 is round and the 992.2 is squared off. So if an interchange were possible electrically, one would also need to purchase that section of the dash (or whatever assembly it's a part of) to make the swap.
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992.1 on top and 992.2 below.

I do not think Porsche redesigned the dash only to incorporate the "flap"(which is a piece people will never see), while leaving the left and right parts of the opening unchanged, just to fill them in with black plastic "blanks".

The 992.2 flap simply fits over the existing cutout on the existing dash, which is why the shape looks slightly different to you.

I just checked my 992.1, and the start assembly also has an upside-down trapezoidal "flap" shape; it is not actually rounded, as it appears to be from the driver’s vantage point or in the picture above.

Therefore, I am pretty sure one could retrofit the 992.1 start assembly in place of the 992.2 start assembly.
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Old Jun 4, 2024 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Defrag
I actually have a funny question.

How is that even possible, with extra torque and initial speed up GTS version should transfer the power way worse then 992.1 GTS, while .2 GTS and 4GTS have same 0-100km (or 0-60mph) stats?

https://prnt.sc/gafxGHoe9Im8

How is that even possible that rear and 4wd car have same 0-60mph? WIth that much extra torque the difference should be bigger then .1 GTS vs 4GTS, where it was 0.2s difference.
Our Stage 3 Power Kit for Base 992.1 Carrera (RWD), which includes the S/GTS turbos and link pipes (so basically a Stage 2 S or GTS but without LSD) did 0-60 in 2.9 on the street. This is an unprepped surface, 2 attempts. It would probably do a smidge better at a dragstrip. Porsche doesn't usually sandbag with their 0-60 times but it's not hard to get there with some bolt ons and tuning with the current 992.
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Old Jun 4, 2024 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ikone
I like the guy a lot but he also prefers black on black, which I'd never do and thinks buckets should always be optioned, which I wouldn't do since I don't track and also do long road trips. Everything else, I like about the guy. lol
Seems like my kinda guy

I do like Slate Grey Neo, and if they had it in the 992.1, it would have made the decision to go with Jet Black Metallic that much more difficult.
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Old Jun 4, 2024 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by pal
Seems like my kinda guy

I do like Slate Grey Neo, and if they had it in the 992.1, it would have made the decision to go with Jet Black Metallic that much more difficult.
Slate grey was one of the first 911 colors. I love it. But with today’s non-metallic colors not being clear coated and the changes over the years in paint, I’d rather go with a metallic one.
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Old Jun 4, 2024 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Ikone
Slate grey was one of the first 911 colors. I love it. But with today’s non-metallic colors not being clear coated and the changes over the years in paint, I’d rather go with a metallic one.
I thought only the matte/frozen paint colors tend to not have clear coat. Slate Grey Neo looks like a glossy color.
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Old Jun 4, 2024 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TUD
LB looks to be an improvement over SB. It would be nice to see LB in direct sunlight.
I haven't seen LB in person. How do you think it's an improvement? I was really looking forward to SB until they took it away. Now I figure I'll go GR unless I can see LB in person and like it. It looks darker and less vibrant to me in the pics.
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Old Jun 4, 2024 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pal
I thought only the matte/frozen paint colors tend to not have clear coat. Slate Grey Neo looks like a glossy color.
From what I understand all non-metallic colors. You can do a search on Google with Rennlist in the search. Plenty of information on it.
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Old Jun 4, 2024 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Snareman
I haven't seen LB in person. How do you think it's an improvement? I was really looking forward to SB until they took it away. Now I figure I'll go GR unless I can see LB in person and like it. It looks darker and less vibrant to me in the pics.
​​​​​​That's what I've done. I'd always SB or Lava Orange on a 992 and when I got an allocation, my build date was 2 days past the NLA and order wouldn't go to V200. I faffed on about IGM for a while, until I saw IGM , Carmine and Guards Red next to each other at a dealer and locked in GR for my upcoming GTS.
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Old Jun 4, 2024 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Schn3ll
I know, work with me here. He's been the only Porsche employee to be vocal about selecting a color like this.
Same Schn3ll from Bimmerpost?
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Old Jun 4, 2024 | 10:17 PM
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My white 992.1 definitely has clear coat. My son’s 992.1 in GT silver also had clear coat. It is just the matt colors.
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Old Jun 4, 2024 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael T
My white 992.1 definitely has clear coat. My son’s 992.1 in GT silver also had clear coat. It is just the matt colors.
What matte colors? Last time I checked there aren't any in the Porsche lineup. Guards Red is an example of single stage. I'm not sure about your white, but you could test it. My guess would be it's single stage.

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Old Jun 4, 2024 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PSPorsche
I do not think Porsche redesigned the dash only to incorporate the "flap"(which is a piece people will never see), while leaving the left and right parts of the opening unchanged, just to fill them in with black plastic "blanks".

The 992.2 flap simply fits over the existing cutout on the existing dash, which is why the shape looks slightly different to you.

I just checked my 992.1, and the start assembly also has an upside-down trapezoidal "flap" shape; it is not actually rounded, as it appears to be from the driver’s vantage point or in the picture above.

Therefore, I am pretty sure one could retrofit the 992.1 start assembly in place of the 992.2 start assembly.

Don't think you will be able to retrofit the standard 992.1 switch into a 992.2.
The 992.2 light switch looks like it works with a lighting relay that controls the "auto" function, the headlight on/off function and the parking lights function. Repeated pressing of the button just cycles through the available options...whereas the 992.1 has individual physical buttons that control those same functions.
If you view this 2025 Panamera video below, you'll see latest Panamera's use the almost the same light switch as the 992.2. Fast forward to 6:55 -7:40 where it shows the operation and how it's different than the 992.1.



Also....does that Panamera digital display/ dash looks familiar?
Sure looks like it's the same one in the 992.2

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Old Jun 4, 2024 | 11:39 PM
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Correct, there are no matte colors in the Porsche line-up. The opposite of metallic is not matte. Guards Red and Shark Blue are not (remotely!) matte.

[Editorial begins] Btw, matte is an abomination, I hope it goes out of style asap. Next worst trend is black wheels, but matte paint takes the cake. [Editorial ends]
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