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'23 Dakar just sold on BaT for $405K! I don't get it

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Old 10-07-2023, 08:59 PM
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Default '23 Dakar just sold on BaT for $405K! I don't get it

Help me understand the mania behind this car. I was going to pore through the 251 comments on BaT but thought I would ask here instead. The thought that you would use a $220K Porsche car to go offroading seems silly when there are so many better choices. Some of the historic liveries are cool but at 2000 or 2500 cars, certainly not very limited. What do other people think?

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10-12-2023, 02:00 AM
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I own a Dakar and drive it all the time. I take it to work, drive it off-road on dirt/gravel roads and I take it through machine car washes when its covered in dirt and mud. It's an amazing car and extremely fun to drive. The car has lower limits due to the height and tires so its easier to slide around at a reduced speed. In addition, the low down torque and grunt from the vehicle is intoxicating. It's unfair to judge it without driving it. I'm hoping Porsche will print these in the future at a reduced value so more people can enjoy them.

In addition, I think the Dakar is so fun and versatile that it's the last Porsche I would sell out of the five I have.
Old 10-07-2023, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 96redLT4
Help me understand the mania behind this car. I was going to pore through the 251 comments on BaT but thought I would ask here instead. The thought that you would use a $220K Porsche car to go offroading seems silly when there are so many better choices. Some of the historic liveries are cool but at 2000 or 2500 cars, certainly not very limited. What do other people think?
I agree it dumb imho. Novelty car and I guess those with the cash say what the hell.
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Old 10-07-2023, 09:10 PM
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I’m with ya. I don’t get it and for that price, I really don’t get it.
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Old 10-07-2023, 09:56 PM
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I'm pretty sure >90% of Dakars won't ever see any off-road action too.

That said, I think the Dakar is pretty cool.
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Old 10-07-2023, 10:02 PM
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Plus an extra $5k
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Old 10-07-2023, 10:25 PM
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I thought the same thing until I saw this video by The Straight Pipes guys. It really looks like a blast!


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This is easy. It's called wealth disparity. That's the reason so many cars on BAT go for breathtaking prices. It's the top 1% of income wealth that is growing by leaps and bounds in this country, not the middle class. So many new multi millionaires now that they can buy whatever they want, when they want it. A Dakar for over $ 400K means nothing money-wise, but its something they cannot otherwise easily locate. It's just play money. Sport Classics, 918's, GT3RS, all toys. We're talking people who buy Gulfstream jets for private travel. So while $ 405K may see ludicrous to someone who has to finance a Carrera S, for the wealthy is no more a burden than buying a Big Mac is to most of us regular car guys.

Watch this on You Tube and you will see some numbers and graphs that will blow your mind.

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I'm on a list for a Dakar that I will likely not get an allocation for at this point. I, like other guys I know who actually got one, live in places that are not 911 friendly. I think ti will be a blast and would have no issues driving it as intended where intended.
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Seller got ripped off at that price.

What a steal for the buyer.
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I also have no interest in the Dakar. But if that’s the going rate, so be it. Obviously the demand is there.
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Originally Posted by Rgwirtz
I thought the same thing until I saw this video by The Straight Pipes guys. It really looks like a blast!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w6R4hJ7-mQ
That does make it look like a lot of fun especially if it is a press/rental car but as compulsive as most of us are taking care of our cars are you really going to beat the cr*p out of a car you just paid $250K of your hard earned after tax dollars for?
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99% of Dakars will never see any dirt let alone any rubble. 1-5 will see sand and race against other 4 wheelers.
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Originally Posted by drcollie
This is easy. It's called wealth disparity. That's the reason so many cars on BAT go for breathtaking prices. It's the top 1% of income wealth that is growing by leaps and bounds in this country, not the middle class. So many new multi millionaires now that they can buy whatever they want, when they want it. A Dakar for over $ 400K means nothing money-wise, but its something they cannot otherwise easily locate. It's just play money. Sport Classics, 918's, GT3RS, all toys. We're talking people who buy Gulfstream jets for private travel. So while $ 405K may see ludicrous to someone who has to finance a Carrera S, for the wealthy is no more a burden than buying a Big Mac is to most of us regular car guys.

Watch this on You Tube and you will see some numbers and graphs that will blow your mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdqxBNgnmxU
Using feelings to describe wealth distribution on a you tube video is extremely silly. Give is a peer reviewed journal citation.
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Originally Posted by Rgwirtz
I thought the same thing until I saw this video by The Straight Pipes guys. It really looks like a blast!
I'm liking the exhaust...
Old 10-08-2023, 01:00 PM
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Just put on a lift kit, a skid plate, and some knobby tires And don’t forget some decals Call it a Dakar 2 and add $150
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