'23 Dakar just sold on BaT for $405K! I don't get it
10-09-2023, 03:25 AM
#31
Burning Brakes
People who drive them find they're fun, but then again it is fun to etch gravel spray down the side of a press loaner supercar, I suspect it would be not at all fun if you actually own it.
I see two types of owners, the 95% that will park them in a nice garage, take them to C&C, and eventually flip them, and the 5% that will actually drive them off-road.
I see two types of owners, the 95% that will park them in a nice garage, take them to C&C, and eventually flip them, and the 5% that will actually drive them off-road.
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10-09-2023, 05:47 AM
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10-09-2023, 05:51 AM
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10-09-2023, 07:22 AM
#35
Help me understand the mania behind this car. I was going to pore through the 251 comments on BaT but thought I would ask here instead. The thought that you would use a $220K Porsche car to go offroading seems silly when there are so many better choices. Some of the historic liveries are cool but at 2000 or 2500 cars, certainly not very limited. What do other people think?
That’s about it in a nutshell.
10-09-2023, 07:24 AM
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10-09-2023, 10:03 AM
#37
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I've got one being built this month so let me offer my thoughts. It's all about different kinds of experiences and how the car is fun to use. If one has a Porsche (911, Cayman, 944, whatever) that is their "performance street car" then that box is ticked. In my case I've had a 997.2 RS since new and while it sounds like a truck at idle and my wife won't ride in it because "it looks like a mobile cry for help" it does, IMO, give me that flavor experience when I want to blast around. It formerly served as my track car. It got replaced by a race car that, while worth less than half of the RS, is BETTER at delivering a track experience. Why? Because a street car, even a 992 RS, has to do stuff like go over speed bumps, have sound deadening, etc etc etc and while a 992 RS (for example) might offer track thrills for a few days a year, it does not offer the same experience as an actual purpose built race car...even if that race car is a lowly 924, doing laps much slower. So back to the Dakar. I sold an Oak Green manual buckets 2900 mile 991.2 GT3 to partially fund the Dakar? Why...well because the 991.2 offers the same experience as the 997.2 RS but not as good. So, off it goes, and in comes the Dakar. I can do all kinds of stuff I don't want to, or can't, in the other cars. Use it year round regardless of weather conditions, check. Put studded tires on it and ice race it, check. Wife and I can take it to steeplechase and park wherever, check. I can enter it in Targa Newfoundland and drive it there and back, check. So in my mind it's a different kind of Porsche for different experiences. Sure I could have bought a Cayenne GT or a 911 GTS and put snows on it, but frankly I think the Dakar is sufficiently unique that it certainly won't depreciate nor will I see another coming or going (there are three allocated to the two Baltimore dealers and one is being shipped to Montana).
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10-09-2023, 10:51 AM
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10-09-2023, 10:59 AM
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10-09-2023, 11:49 AM
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Do people anywhere but Rennlist give a crap about the difference between a base, S, GTS, Turbo, GT3, Sport Classic, etc? No, they don't so Dakar no different.
10-09-2023, 12:04 PM
#41
Originally Posted by brownan
Do people anywhere but Rennlist give a crap about the difference between a base, S, GTS, Turbo, GT3, Sport Classic, etc? No, they don't so Dakar no different.
10-09-2023, 01:30 PM
#43
Burning Brakes
If you're daily driving an off-road rally car, you're not one of the 5% that are using the car as designed LOL. Sadly though if the roads in Scotland are anything like California it's probably a pretty darn practical daily driver of a sports car.
10-09-2023, 03:06 PM
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10-09-2023, 07:36 PM
#45
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This is easy. It's called wealth disparity. That's the reason so many cars on BAT go for breathtaking prices. It's the top 1% of income wealth that is growing by leaps and bounds in this country, not the middle class. So many new multi millionaires now that they can buy whatever they want, when they want it. A Dakar for over $ 400K means nothing money-wise, but its something they cannot otherwise easily locate. It's just play money. Sport Classics, 918's, GT3RS, all toys. We're talking people who buy Gulfstream jets for private travel. So while $ 405K may see ludicrous to someone who has to finance a Carrera S, for the wealthy is no more a burden than buying a Big Mac is to most of us regular car guys.
Watch this on You Tube and you will see some numbers and graphs that will blow your mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdqxBNgnmxU
Watch this on You Tube and you will see some numbers and graphs that will blow your mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdqxBNgnmxU
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