Shambler

There was an article on CNBC today about the average car selling over MSRP. They had a top 10 by percent list and the 911 was not on it. The Taycan was.
Many "normal" cars are selling +20%, so some of these ADMs on a % basis are below many other brands/models.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/10/new-...ker-price.html

ianmSC

Local dealer in San Diego area has a new 2023 C2 available. They want 10k over and $1600 in add ons. So yeah, ADM’s are still alive and well.

nyca

Be patient, see the financial news today - some west coast banks are starting to fail.

Bobby 911

The other catch is someone else optioned it.

Astraelraen

I'll buy someone else's optioned car sitting at a dealership.... but most (all?) dealerships still won't sell out of State. I won't pretend to understand Porsches allocation system, but it clearly heavily favors areas that have historically sold a high volume of cars. If I was a Porsche dealer in a small market this would be super frustrating to me as a franchisee - how do you grow your dealership?

Porsche Scottsdale also has a few 911s available for sale, but they won't sell out of State at any price.

dixonk

I looked at the spec and the guy pretty much ticked every box and it has every single carbon option there is. MSRP of 200k.

Shambler

What about if you flew down and did the deal in person and made the transport your issue and not their issue?

ipse dixit

No, it's more about where the car is registered.

As in what area code shows on the DMV registration.

PCA1983

I called a Florida Porsche dealer 120 miles from here to ask about getting in line for an allocation to order a Turbo S, and they told me Porsche had just ordered them to stop selling new Porsches to customers outside the local zip codes there.
Not sure if that included the more plentiful SUVs and Sedans.
I've had 12 Porsches since my first, a 1970 Signal Orange 914 I ordered for my 25th birthday.
Most of my Porsches over the years were new ones, but dealers and PCNA treat me like a newbie Porsche owner, probably because I had to move around for my career in a very cyclical industry segment. I worked in 7 different locations over my career.

PCA1983

I called a Florida Porsche dealer 120 miles from here to ask about getting in line for an allocation to order a Turbo S, and they told me Porsche had just ordered them to stop selling new Porsches to customers outside the local zip codes there.
Not sure if that included the more plentiful SUVs and Sedans.
I've had 12 Porsches since my first, a 1970 Signal Orange 914 I ordered for my 25th birthday.
Most of my Porsches over the years were new ones, but dealers and PCNA treat me like a newbie Porsche owner, probably because I had to move around for my career in a very cyclical industry segment. I worked in 7 different locations over my career.

slc4s

between the new restrictions on Porsche dealers posting inventory to online marketplaces (can't post new cars anymore) and news like the above its sadly clear that PCNA is cracking down hard on consumers ability to cross shop dealers. This sucks. Especially for those of us that have awful local dealers.

nyca

I don't know what's what anymore - I live in NY and talked to a NJ dealer a couple of weeks ago, and at that time they had no issue with the geography part of a possible order.

malba2366

The dealers "local markets" are not divided solely on state lines. Especially in an area like NY/NJ/CT where there are a lot of dealers in a small area.

Pag0307

Wonder what the case is where I don’t live within 300 miles of a dealership and I have to be looking well beyond my zip code?

6sigma

I think your closest dealer would technically be your local dealer, although if in a different state that might be a concern. I am about 100 miles from my closest dealer, and about 125 miles from the next closest in the other direction. Both have indicated no problem doing business with me, although they are both in my state.