Staffie Guy

Unbiased review and well explained. The GTS is more track oriented as explained by Nick. Depends on what you want from your car. Good job by Nick!

Staffie Guy

From a seasoned enthusiast’s perspective, what did Nick state incorrectly?

remington

That hasn't been my experience watching his videos.

BenDiem

^^^ my final comment and I’ll ignore you henceforth.
Your personal attack calling someone an A-hole was out of line!
I‘ll leave you with this thought: I can’t take you serious, all your comments coming from a bloke that drives a GTS in a cabriolet, to boot. Enjoy your Cab GTS!
Now, we can be friends. 😉✌️💪

ron4sc

When I was deciding among the thousands of options for my upcoming C2S, I found his two videos where he went through the options invaluable.

it didn’t mean I agreed with everything but as a newbie, he knew a lot more than I did.

Maybe there’s his sweet spot. For people learning about the difference between models, he provides an accessible insight into the cars. He does it with humor too which is unique in the car space.

Go Bruins

I found, and continue to find, Nick entertaining and illuminating. As a first time Porsche buyer when I started this process almost 2 years ago, I learned a lot from his 2-part 911 options video (which I recommend to all). When I had trouble finding an allocation, I emailed him for assistance. He got back to me quickly with advice. I really appreciated that.

And when I landed my unicorn allocation from a tip from a Rennlister -- 911 Targa 4 -- I again emailed Nick with an update and questions. He was so excited for me, and gave me a few pointers on color combinations and options. I didn't follow all of them, but his opinions helped me narrow my options search. For example, I never would have chosen "interior trim inlays in leather" without his help. That option is money well-spent, and makes the interior much better, for a reasonable price. There are other examples as well that not only helped me build the car I wanted, but saved me money. In the end, I optioned the best car for me. His help was important. He's a good dude.

shrimp money

I wish Nick would sell packages where we could pay him $5k to spec our cars for us.

ron4sc

The Bruins and Trojans agreeing on Nick Murray. It's a Christmas Miracle!

bluelines1974

Add me to the list of people who would pick the S over the GTS, but also add me to the list of people who like that Porsche will accommodate virtually every quirk and whim, for a price.

I've had two GTS models (997 and 991.2) and had an order for a 992 GTS that I cancelled. Ideally I decided that what I wanted next was an S in PTS with the heritage interior, but this is not an option for 2023 model year orders. The way I specced it, it would have been the same or more expensive than the equivalent GTS (mostly because the heritage interior is so costly). I then decided to get a T, and was able to get an allocation, with my choice of the T being driven by wanting to get something relatively unique, a bit less hardcore, but still very engaging and agile. As an aside, the base Carrera has some qualities that make it a really great car, specifically the smaller turbos that give it a tiny bit less turbo lag. Where it does suffer is that it doesn't have PTV and PASM or the option for a manual gearbox (all things the T fixes, for a price...).

The bottom line is that Nick does not want anyone to take him that seriously. He's offering his opinion on a car that can be configured to an almost infinite degree. It's bewildering that people get so riled up about it, instead of being happy that anyone can get virtually anything they want.

catdog2

I think the power bit was probably the most disappointing, assuming it's not simply because the GTS had fewer miles on it. Certainly the Turbo underpinnings and brakes are a big deal but for many in the northeast centerlocks are a pain and then finally the ride depends on personal choice; question is the SPASM S as stiff as SPASM GTS? Also PDCC has been in my opinion the single best option to sap fun out of a 911 and make it an artificial experience, I would never spec it (answering forum member who was singing its praises, it does make care more comfortable over bumps when driving straight all other variables beeng equal).

remington

Based on your logic there is no reason other than price anyone here should buy anything but a GT3RS and I clearly should be daily driving an RS to my office .

ipse dixit

I might pick the S just so I can have street cred to bash the GTS on Rennlist.

CanAutM3

The GTS/turbo Sport-PASM is ~25% more stiffly sprung than the Carrera-S Sport-PASM.

Woofman

First of all, Rennlist does not appear to be representative of average Porsche owners. Of the owners I've asked, none use this or other Porsche forums. But I like car forums ... always have.

My wife and I are on a wait list for a base 992 allocation. It has nothing to do with price. It's all we "need". It's far more than we need. Isn't a 4 second 0 to 60 mph time far more than enough? I'm currently $590K net under what my wife agreed that I could spend on cars this calendar year. (net = Cayenne bought minus car sold). I'm not going to spend more just because I can or because some forum guys think I should..

The base Carrara 4 will do it for us. It will have every comfort and convenient feature available, have the glass roof, ride on standard 19/20 inch wheels, have a standard leather interior and standard color exterior. It will have the standard exhaust and a rear wiper. It will be my wife's new daily driver - she will be 75 years old next year. We'll get winter tires on extra wheels for it even though my wife is currently driving barely 1,000 miles per year. I see that our build has PTV+ but I don't remember specifying it ... whatever. I'll likely drive the car some and we'll occasionally use it on road trips to visit family. The car will never be in a car show and never be taken to a PCA event. It will be waxed approximately "never" times each year. I'll have a little bit of PPF put on the front to lessen stone chips. It will be for us to enjoy the way we want to. .

NWJLA

I have driven the 2022 GTS and initially had a deposit down on one. I subsequently drove the 992 Carrera S & 4S during a Porsche Experience track day and recognized that the S, with SPASM, was extraordinarily enjoyable - and capable on track! After previously owning a 991.2 S, I can confidently say that the 992 Carrera S/4S with SPASM is an amazing machine and a better grand tourer for me vs. the GTS. I personally drive my cars only on the road and use the Porsche cars for any track days that I want to do. Although I recognize that the GTS is a phenomenal car with an enhanced ability on track, I preferred the ability to slightly reduce the stiffness of the suspension in comfort mode with the S. As a result, I was able to get a 2023 Carrera 4 S PTS allocation and have no regrets. So in short, no, I would not have personally chosen the GTS over my new 4S- regardless of cost. Having said that, I also wouldn't personally choose a Turbo S over my car as I love a manual transmission.