0.2 version of the GTS will be close to last 2 years of model run, I would expect 0.2 GTS end of 2024 or 2025

 

I get what you're saying but it's still wrong. The 991 ran for 8 model years but the first 5 model years were 991.1 and then, starting with the 2017 model year, the 991.2 began, and it ran for only 3 model years. The 992 is in its fourth model year, so if it were to follow a similar refresh/facelift schedule as the 991 did - not saying it will, I don't know - then the 992.2 would appear for MY25, not MY24.

 

991.1 ran 5 model years (2012-2016). 991.2 arrived in 2017. If they follow the same pattern 992.1 will run MY 2020-2024, and 992.2 will arrive for MY 2025


In the 991 generation the GTS was available the first year of 991.2. I don't see any reason Porsche will not do the same, especially considering that they are prioritizing GTS production with this generation.

 

You’re both right. For some reason, I mistakenly thought 991.1 came out for 2013 MY but yes, it came out for 2012 and ran for 5 model years. Then 991.2 came in 2017 for 3 model years. So if they follow the same pattern this time, we won’t see 992.2 until end of 2024 for MY 2025.


Yea, it seems like for 991.2, all Carreras (including GTS) and Turbo came out for MY 2017 so I’m not sure why my dealer thought there would be a delay for 992 gen.


I’m still curious, why all the spy photos and hype over the past year about the refreshed 992 and even my dealer thinking they’ll announce the .2 some time around this Spring? Could 911 life cycle be adjusted to follow other Porsches (4 model years of .1 and 3 years of .2)?

 

Perhaps??? This 992.2 refresh does include Hybrid which would explain the amount of time required for testing and tweaking.
Makes sense considering the 991 went from NA to turbo in the 991.2 and that the PDK in the 992 is heavier because it’s designed for a hybrid addition.

 

Latest from Porsche- Plug in 911 confirmed


Following years of rumors and speculation, Porsche has confirmed that a plug-in hybrid 911 is in the pipeline. The gasoline-electric sports car is one of several new models planned, including an electric SUV positioned above the Cayenne in terms of size and pricing.
Porsche confirms hybrid 911, electric Cayenne, and range-topping SUV"We decided that there will be some hybrid version for the 911 as well. We were able to test it in detail last year, and we are quite thrilled about the drivability and the handling on the car. We believe there's a big future in store for it," revealed Porsche boss Oliver Blume.

There's no word yet on when we'll see the first series-produced hybrid 911 or where it will be positioned in the lineup, though an unverified rumor claims the next GT2 RS is one of the hybrids in store. The flat-six engine is safe — for now — because an electric 911 isn't currently planned. "The 911 will be offered as a car with an [internal-combustion engine] for as long as possible," Blume stressed. Put another way, if the flat-six dies and the 911 goes all-electri

 

Actual link to the article
https://www.autoblog.com/2023/03/13/...suv-confirmed/

 

The plug in 911 is a big mistake, its going to be heavy - and who really wants a plug in 911? Sure, people will buy it I guess. Hopefully there will be a non-plug in hybrid 911, because if they are all plug ins, a lot of potential buyers will not touch them.

Still hoping the EU collapses before 2035, and these bans on ICE cars go with it.

 

You need help.

 

It won't be me who needs "help" - it will be all these European automakers come 2035, who rely on exports to the US for their cars. The American market isn't going to want to buy all these Euro EVs, so Mercedes and Porsche and all the rest better figure out what to do with them, its a multi-billion dollar export market for them that is going to be mostly gone.

If Porsche were smart, they would be looking to build a plant in the US.

 

It's not just the European brands or the European market shifting to EV vehicles... it is happening with all manufacturers. I prefer ICE vehicles also and will buy them as long as I can but I won't likely have much of a choice in 2035. The ICE pickings will be slim from ANY manufacturer. This isn't just an EU thing... Consumer Reports on EV's. You also need to be careful assuming that the American market won't buy EV's... just because you won't want to doesn't mean the majority of the market feels the same way. Lots and lots of EV's being sold in the US/Canada now.

 

The premise of this is apparently, I, nyca, am the American market. Smh.

 

Here is their latest press release, with the key quote highlighted:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/porsc...154409797.html

"But the focus for Porsche is still America."

These German automakers can't afford to lose their American export markets. You already see Germany and Italy pushing back against the EU ICE ban.

 

Just asking… why is a 911 plug-in hybrid such a bad thing? One of Porsche’s greatest (and most expensive) cars ever is a plug-in hybrid (918).

 

It's not market forces driving this, its government mandates. That's the difference. Sure, many people want EVs (by choice), and that's fine. I might get one as a grocery getter someday too. Left to market forces, I could see EVs getting to 30% of the market - but not much further, especially on the current battery technologies. These government bans are an entirely different thing.