Lithium ion battery
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Based on the driving I've been doing it does seem like there is a lot going on behind the scenes. From watching the Voltage reading on the dash and correlating that with If I have topped off the battery it seems to work something like this:
If the battery is full it will just straight run off the battery without doing any charging until reaching some X level of depletion.
Then it will opportunistically recharge the battery. (Idling, deceleration)
Once the battery is too depleted and the start stop becomes unavailable it will begin charging full time like a traditional system. Once it has enough juice to enable start/stop it will then go back to opportunity charging. It never seems to bring the battery back to a full state of charge on it's own. Perhaps with enough idling "opportunity" it will, or maybe different modes have their own charging strategies (TBD).
Last edited by Mike818; 06-14-2024 at 04:01 PM.
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*** would be more universally interesting. Thanks
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CJDCREW (06-14-2024)
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@Antigravity is that plug and play? Any PIWIS coding necessary?
Our Batteries work fine with the AGM setting for Batteries and in fact we tell people to NOT change the setting in our instruction manuals and on the stickers we place on the battery.... unless they encounter any flags or an anomoly. The reason is firstly because the Charging profile (in Cars and Vehicles) for AGM is very similar to Lithium and easily within the range that lithium handles. Note that a Car does not charge like the stand alone Chargers you buy to maintain your battery, a Car has a basic Charging profile, but the stand-alone charger usually has the "recovery/save/recondition" modes which are basically "desulfate modes" that spike voltages to lead/acid batteriesto remove sulfates from lead acid plates and which does NOT occur in Lithium Batteries. Lastly, when you don't change anything about your vehicle when you put our battery in you have a solid baseline to establish the Antigravity Battery is working fine without any changes as it shoul, then if you see flags we can see if there are any issues. So essentially YES the Antigravity is PLUG AND PLAY and not needing coding. We have found this almost across the board in all brands of vehicles, and mainly Porsche since they seem much more inclined to have flags if any voltage is off even by a tad.
Lastly as an FYI.......in your Car Lithium works fine with an AGM setting, but you don't want to use an AGM Lead Acid stand-alone charger on a Lithium Battery due to them usually having a Desufate Mode usually named something like "recondition, save, or repair" these modes spike voltages to the Lead/Acid battery to remove sulfate from the lead plates, but lithium does not sulfate and does not need the spiking voltage, so that is why you use a Lithium Specific charger when you use the chargers on Lithium batteries.
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don’t have my car so maybe it would be more clear with it in hand, but I’m not following this post. I’m US market so despite getting a T will receive an AGM by all accounts, thus negating a good chunk of my weight savings in my car so I am planning to swap my AGM for your lithium immediately. Could you clarify what is needed in that case? I had thought from prior info that it was just remove AGM and insert antigravity lithium.
I want to be blunt, we have heard of about 10 people who have done this and we have not done it ourselves but they said it worked. I used to have a GT3 RS but that was a 2016 which didn't have the new IBS and Lithium Battery so we have not done this with our own car yet since we don't have a Porsche at the shop anymore.