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rk-d
Your schedule is almost exactly as mine other than my lock date was 8/31. Last night it was shuffled again and it shows port entry/exit port/dealer inventory all at 11/12. Is yours a PEC Atlanta or a local dealer? Mine is PEC Atlanta (I live in Atlanta as well) but is now showing Baltimore as my port for 11/12.
Getting an order demand is part of the process, which generates a commission number. It's not totally irrelevant, but having a commission number doesn't mean you have a live allocation. Or at least that's my understanding of it.
V200 is the delivery date determination and when the allocation is "live". Lock is v250. In the case of PTS cars, lock is determined at v215.
So after reading this i have no idea if i actually have an allocation or not....
Porsche aside, because its a niche brand, I am starting to not believe this "chip shortage" as on ongoing excuse for all this, for years now. I think the automakers want to change the production and distribution dynamics for cars - don't want millions of cars in inventory pipelines, and the shortages give them the ability to increase the prices on the cars they sell. Other goods manufacturers want to do the same - appliances, etc - shortages are how they raise prices, and they don't want to give those price increases back and return the market to what it was. Taiwan makes 50% of these chips - you know what the COVID case and death rate was in Taiwan today - 5 cases, 1 death. Go look at the numbers for yourself, there is no COVID pandemic in Taiwan that is shutting down all the chip plants.
All the chips are being used by the government to inject people with tracking devices so the Democrats know what you are doing
So after reading this i have no idea if i actually have an allocation or not....
Ask your SA to send you the build sheet. On it, if you have a commission number ("Comm. No") and the other things on the attached photo, you're good to go. It may not say V200. It may say V170. But either way, if you have a build sheet or something else from your dealer, it's your 911. Another tell-tale sign: an email from Porsche welcoming you and directing you to set up Track Your Dream.
Ask your SA to send you the build sheet. On it, if you have a commission number ("Comm. No") and the other things on the attached photo, you're good to go. It may not say V200. It may say V170. But either way, if you have a build sheet or something else from your dealer, it's your 911. Another tell-tale sign: an email from Porsche welcoming you and directing you to set up Track Your Dream.
I definitely got the email from Porsche to track my dream...
Anyone know if the status will show up as V070 if its a few months before the order locks and then will transition to v200? Im planning for a future delivery around spring/summer next year.
Last edited by voyagez.fr; Sep 3, 2021 at 12:34 PM.
rk-d
Your schedule is almost exactly as mine other than my lock date was 8/31. Last night it was shuffled again and it shows port entry/exit port/dealer inventory all at 11/12. Is yours a PEC Atlanta or a local dealer? Mine is PEC Atlanta (I live in Atlanta as well) but is now showing Baltimore as my port for 11/12.
Im local dealer delivery. My date is still at 11/19. It went to 11/12 and now back to 11/19. Its been so long, frankly it doesnt feel real anymore.
Originally Posted by Go Bruins
Then you have a 911! Now it's time to wait with the rest of us.
Agree. If you have a TYD link, then the allocation is definitely real.
All the chips are being used by the government to inject people with tracking devices so the Democrats know what you are doing
If you want to be serious about it for a moment, consider this. The subsystems in these cars, are roughly all the same. The power seat controllers and the automatic cruise controls and a myriad of other systems (bluetooth, TPM, etc), all basically use the same "chips". Of course each manufacturer has their own software, but that isn't where the shortage is. So ask yourself, how can Alfa Romeo produce tens of thousands of cars that are sitting unsold on dealer lots (my local dealer has near 200 of them). Forget the marketing issue as to why their cars don't sell and Porsche's do, the fact that Alfa can PRODUCE these cars, with all the "chips" they require, means somewhere there seems to be ample supply of chips to build cars people don't want to buy, but no chips for cars people want? I'm telling you, something else is going on here. Enough said.
If you want to be serious about it for a moment, consider this. The subsystems in these cars, are roughly all the same. The power seat controllers and the automatic cruise controls and a myriad of other systems (bluetooth, TPM, etc), all basically use the same "chips". Of course each manufacturer has their own software, but that isn't where the shortage is. So ask yourself, how can Alfa Romeo produce tens of thousands of cars that are sitting unsold on dealer lots (my local dealer has near 200 of them). Forget the marketing issue as to why their cars don't sell and Porsche's do, the fact that Alfa can PRODUCE these cars, with all the "chips" they require, means somewhere there seems to be ample supply of chips to build cars people don't want to buy, but no chips for cars people want? I'm telling you, something else is going on here. Enough said.
It's called sell through rate. Porsche's 992 sell through rate is low, very low. In the past year 911s did not sit on lots long before being sold.
Alfa's sell through rate on their sedans in the USA is ridiculously long. In some cases more than a year. Those Alfas sitting on your local dealer's lot have been there more than 12 months because they are not desirable and even a shortage of desirable cars is not going to change that.
All the major auto manufactures are shutting down plants for weeks, costing them hundreds and hundreds of millions. There is nothing mischievous going on.
Last edited by Carlo_Carrera; Sep 3, 2021 at 10:37 PM.
It's called sell through rate. Porsche's 992 sell through rate is low, very low. In the past year 911s did not sit on lots long before being sold.
Alfa's sell through rate on their sedans in the USA is ridiculously long. In some cases more than a year. Those Alfas sitting on your local dealer's lot have been there more than 12 months because they are not desirable and even a shortage of desirable cars is not going to change that.
All the major auto manufactures are shutting down plants for weeks, costing them hundreds and hundreds of millions. There is nothing mischievous going on.
Ironically I was over in FLL/MIA area yesterday and saw an inordinate amount of Alfa's "Stelvio" small/medium sized SUVs. They were EVERYWHERE. I am not sure what the draw is there, but it was enough to catch my eye. Even my daughter that lives over there wants one. I am seriously pushing her away from them, but letting her make her own decision.
I do agree with the 4 door sedans not moving and the overall chip shortage ideology.
I think they are good cars, interested in them myself - alot of the "Fix It Again Tony" stuff about FIAT, was overblown. The early models had a batch of bad batteries that caused owners all kinds of problems, so there were alot of complaints in 2018. But yes, lots everywhere are full of them - and the 2022s are just coming in now. And somehow, they don't seem to have any chip shortages and are building them.
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