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Old 03-14-2023, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Flat6Motorsports
See the link below, we offer an OEM S/GTS turbo kit bundled with the M-Tuner calibration. I'm currently running that on my base 992 and what a huge difference! I considered ordering a T myself and swapping everything over but it just didn't make sense for me with what I have into my car versus the mark up on a T. Either way, you'll be happy. If you have a base model or T, it's just a delta of $5K and you can probably sell your cores and get a few grand back too. If you get a S/GTS, it's a little more turnkey.

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I know that you said that you didn't like the behavior of PTV+ on track but are you seeing any traction issues with your C2 as you start cranking up the power? I only seem to notice an issue when applying power coming out of an uneven or wet hairpin (hands crossed up on the steering wheel with 15mph posted speed limit) in the mountains and even then, it's just a slight stutter as the tire slips but there's no loss of rear end stability.
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Originally Posted by SirBeans
I highly recommend for all 992 owners to stop messing with perfection.
what’s your meaning?
Old 03-14-2023, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bezlar
what’s your meaning?
He means that one wouldn’t put silicone on Audrey Hepburn, or turbocharge a 458 Speciale or over boost a 911.
Old 03-14-2023, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PorscheObsessed
He means that one wouldn’t put silicone on Audrey Hepburn, or turbocharge a 458 Speciale or over boost a 911.
it’s just a car. Lol. Each to their own. I’m guessing Porsche has over built the motor expecting people to play and have fun. I bet lots of people would have liked to put lingerie on Audrey Hepburn. Just saying. 😬

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Old 03-15-2023, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dmk2
I appreciate the information.

Looks like a S may be a very high value proposition.
Sure thing. The S gets the larger turbos (just detuned), slightly larger brakes and the LSD, so there are some nice features in that trim for sure. I was pretty impressed with the base 992 on track all stock, it's a great platform, I honestly don't think one can go wrong whatever suits their needs!
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I'm just waiting patiently for the Carrera T so we can all have LSD and manual fun on a baby-turbo motor that's super responsive!

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Old 04-17-2023, 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by M Engineering
Correct, OEM gapping is .028".

.022" is the magic number and can also be run on bone-stock cars safely as well.

-Charles@M
finally got around to installing new plugs gapped at .022.

old plugs had 3700 miles and look pretty good. Been running stock for a bit, looking forward to loading the stg 2 map again.

Job was easier than I thought it would be. #4 was hardest due to tight access.





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Old 04-17-2023, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 911Gr8tness
finally got around to installing new plugs gapped at .022.

old plugs had 3700 miles and look pretty good. Been running stock for a bit, looking forward to loading the stg 2 map again.

Job was easier than I thought it would be. #4 was hardest due to tight access.




Considering tackling this myself. Would have been great if you'd done a diy for us. Got any advice for those of us on the fence?? I have done plugs on 987/997/991, but know the tubos are in the way here.
Old 04-17-2023, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by eagle1960
Considering tackling this myself. Would have been great if you'd done a diy for us. Got any advice for those of us on the fence?? I have done plugs on 987/997/991, but know the tubos are in the way here.
high level steps.
1. Jack the car safely.
2. remove rear fender liner ( 4-5 torx heads and 1 10mm)
3. Remove black turbo inlet pipe to gain access to plugs.
4. You can (although not required) remove torx screws to heat shield covering the coil packs and lower out if the way.( driver side access is easier, I didn’t bother on passenger side)
5. Remove coil one at a time with t30 and replace plugs
6. Repeat same for passenger side.

For passenger side #4 plug you will need a real shallow t30 to break the coil loose. I found a mini ratchet at auto zone that worked then used fingers rest of way.
have a variety of extensions to give you angle you need to extract the plug smoothly.

Took me about 2 hours and that was being cautious and deliberately slow.

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Old 04-17-2023, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 911Gr8tness
high level steps.
1. Jack the car safely.
2. remove rear fender liner ( 4-5 torx heads and 1 10mm)
3. Remove black turbo inlet pipe to gain access to plugs.
4. You can (although not required) remove torx screws to heat shield covering the coil packs and lower out if the way.( driver side access is easier, I didn’t bother on passenger side)
5. Remove coil one at a time with t30 and replace plugs
6. Repeat same for passenger side.

For passenger side #4 plug you will need a real shallow t30 to break the coil loose. I found a mini ratchet at auto zone that worked then used fingers rest of way.
have a variety of extensions to give you angle you need to extract the plug smoothly.

Took me about 2 hours and that was being cautious and deliberately slow.
Thanks. Doesn't sound that tough and beats the $1300 quote at the dealer.
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Default Stage 1 vs stage 2

My car has soul sports cat and is eligible for a stage 2 tune.

Is stage 1 safer than stage 2 or the difference is negligible because the difference is only 30 to 40hp?

My main goal for the tune is to open up my PSE and get the most sound I can get from my PSE+Sports cat combo. Of course, adding speed is great but keeping my car safe is a higher priority than speed.

Old 04-18-2023, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Charstar604
My car has soul sports cat and is eligible for a stage 2 tune.

Is stage 1 safer than stage 2 or the difference is negligible because the difference is only 30 to 40hp?

My main goal for the tune is to open up my PSE and get the most sound I can get from my PSE+Sports cat combo. Of course, adding speed is great but keeping my car safe is a higher priority than speed.
I recall someone getting the tune and asking M to make the power curve more linear. This takes some HP out of the tune and reportedly created more of an N/A feel. You could do that in conjunction with running the 91 octane version, giving you way more power than you need and also reducing stress on your engine, turbos and trans. Just a thought.
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These cars are significantly overbuilt, and even on a Stage 4 setup can hold the power just fine. Stage 1 vs Stage 2 is only around a 20ish whp difference or so depending on your gas and other mods. It's totally fine to run Stage 2.

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Old 04-18-2023, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 22992
I recall someone getting the tune and asking M to make the power curve more linear. This takes some HP out of the tune and reportedly created more of an N/A feel. You could do that in conjunction with running the 91 octane version, giving you way more power than you need and also reducing stress on your engine, turbos and trans. Just a thought.
That was me. Never heard back if that was a viable thing they could tune. I never got the tune, just wondered if they could do something like that.
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We do offer ProTuning services if you would like to get on a dyno and we can work towards a specific power curve of your liking.

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