PCCB On a 911 C4
07-22-2021, 01:59 PM
#47
Hello, n00bie to renn but not to Pcars, waiting on a C4 allocation and have been beating this topic to death with the wife, selecting PCCBs, un-selecting PCCBs on our build. For now we've decided to skip this option mainly because of WHAT WE WANT FROM THE CAR, which I think should be a big factor and discussion topic too. Our C4 will be a fun touring car, short to medium trips around the area, driving to work, and not needing to sweat gravel or roads muddled with post-winter salt and junk that could end up lodging itself in there - This was my biggest decision factor. Not gonna track our car, maybe some spirited driving but that's about it. Yes, yes, we don't NEED a 911 for that, but that's why we also have a Macan and a Wrangler, so we WANT a 911 to enjoy touring drives, drives to work, and normal commuting and driving around.
So my 4 cents, what swayed me away from PCCBs is i'm OCD about EVERYTHING and will constantly be anxious about getting something lodged in there (had it happen in the past on my 986 three times, and 997 once), and PCCB performance isn't warranted for my driving style. I wanted them for the 'special car' thing (lets say 80% looks, 20% performance in my case?), but instead decided that interior options will make it even more special for pleasure and relaxed driving versus tracking, so I decided to skip them so I can have peace of mind driving our C4 everywhere. I'll still enjoy seeing other 911's with yellow brakes and smile, but i'm personally picking the peace of mind of not having to sweat the roads i'm going on. Base brakes and elbow grease cleaning the rims to be for me
So my 4 cents, what swayed me away from PCCBs is i'm OCD about EVERYTHING and will constantly be anxious about getting something lodged in there (had it happen in the past on my 986 three times, and 997 once), and PCCB performance isn't warranted for my driving style. I wanted them for the 'special car' thing (lets say 80% looks, 20% performance in my case?), but instead decided that interior options will make it even more special for pleasure and relaxed driving versus tracking, so I decided to skip them so I can have peace of mind driving our C4 everywhere. I'll still enjoy seeing other 911's with yellow brakes and smile, but i'm personally picking the peace of mind of not having to sweat the roads i'm going on. Base brakes and elbow grease cleaning the rims to be for me
07-22-2021, 02:51 PM
#48
Three Wheelin'
Hello, n00bie to renn but not to Pcars, waiting on a C4 allocation and have been beating this topic to death with the wife, selecting PCCBs, un-selecting PCCBs on our build. For now we've decided to skip this option mainly because of WHAT WE WANT FROM THE CAR, which I think should be a big factor and discussion topic too. Our C4 will be a fun touring car, short to medium trips around the area, driving to work, and not needing to sweat gravel or roads muddled with post-winter salt and junk that could end up lodging itself in there - This was my biggest decision factor. Not gonna track our car, maybe some spirited driving but that's about it. Yes, yes, we don't NEED a 911 for that, but that's why we also have a Macan and a Wrangler, so we WANT a 911 to enjoy touring drives, drives to work, and normal commuting and driving around.
So my 4 cents, what swayed me away from PCCBs is i'm OCD about EVERYTHING …
So my 4 cents, what swayed me away from PCCBs is i'm OCD about EVERYTHING …
Last edited by 992Sam; 07-22-2021 at 03:37 PM.
07-22-2021, 03:29 PM
#49
That's amusing.
Clearly there are situations where a person can have a valid point of view on the suitability of an option for their use case - that may be of value to folks in similar situations - without having had a car with that option.
My reasons for not wanting PCCBs on any 911 I own are succinctly stated above. You may disagree based on your use case, but they are nonetheless valid.
Do I need to have had a Burmester system to know that with my limited hearing in the higher frequencies it's a waste of money for me? No.
Do I need to have had Matrix headlights to know they are of limited value to me given that I rarely drive at night outside the city, and that even the PDLS lights I had on previous cars were a waste of money for how and where I drive? No.
Do I need to have had a CF roof to know that the weight savings are minimal and that it's mainly cosmetic, but still hold the valid opinion that it looks very cool? No.
Unless you own a 992 that literally has every option available, and you can honestly say you've never in your 11,000+ posts voiced an opinion about an option you haven't had on a car you've owned personally, you might want to rethink your assertion.
Clearly there are situations where a person can have a valid point of view on the suitability of an option for their use case - that may be of value to folks in similar situations - without having had a car with that option.
My reasons for not wanting PCCBs on any 911 I own are succinctly stated above. You may disagree based on your use case, but they are nonetheless valid.
Do I need to have had a Burmester system to know that with my limited hearing in the higher frequencies it's a waste of money for me? No.
Do I need to have had Matrix headlights to know they are of limited value to me given that I rarely drive at night outside the city, and that even the PDLS lights I had on previous cars were a waste of money for how and where I drive? No.
Do I need to have had a CF roof to know that the weight savings are minimal and that it's mainly cosmetic, but still hold the valid opinion that it looks very cool? No.
Unless you own a 992 that literally has every option available, and you can honestly say you've never in your 11,000+ posts voiced an opinion about an option you haven't had on a car you've owned personally, you might want to rethink your assertion.
Your examples above are not remotely comparable to brakes.
Last edited by Archimedes; 07-22-2021 at 03:31 PM.
07-22-2021, 03:49 PM
#50
07-22-2021, 03:51 PM
#51
Three Wheelin'
LOL, on my 997 it was so bad that after a few months of ownership and washing it myself, my driveway had two BLACK streaks going down the width of the front wheels because of how much brake dust came off with every wash. Macan is the same but with all 4 wheels, I'll detail the wheels and two drives in they'e coated in that #@%#$^%$.
07-22-2021, 03:55 PM
#52
My biggest thing was getting yellow tach face and yellow wart face on dash to tie in with the PCCB's yellow calipers on full leather black interior. Now I only have the yellow dials and my peace of mind
07-22-2021, 03:59 PM
#53
Three Wheelin'
Yeah 100% with you. Remember, I've added them and deleted them from my build around 100X already
My biggest thing was getting yellow tach face and yellow wart face on dash to tie in with the PCCB's yellow calipers on full leather black interior. Now I only have the yellow dials and my peace of mind
My biggest thing was getting yellow tach face and yellow wart face on dash to tie in with the PCCB's yellow calipers on full leather black interior. Now I only have the yellow dials and my peace of mind
Ya mean like this??? 😉
07-22-2021, 07:03 PM
#55
Racer
I've also started strongly considering the PCCB's for a few reasons - one of which is cosmetic. I honestly like the look of the yellow calipers with the Aventurine Green. It's also my first 911, so I want to get the best experience possible. That said - I do anticipate this being a bit of a daily driver in the northeast, From those in the know, are there any practical reasons NOT to get the PCCB's, other than cost?
07-22-2021, 08:33 PM
#56
RL Community Team
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I've also started strongly considering the PCCB's for a few reasons - one of which is cosmetic. I honestly like the look of the yellow calipers with the Aventurine Green. It's also my first 911, so I want to get the best experience possible. That said - I do anticipate this being a bit of a daily driver in the northeast, From those in the know, are there any practical reasons NOT to get the PCCB's, other than cost?
A few reasons to skip PCCB’s
- They’re less than awesome in the cold and the wet. The initial lack of bite in those conditions will wake you up. If you’re driving all year round in the northeast, this is a real consideration.
- If you’re swapping wheels frequently, ie. regularly tracking your car, you do risk damaging the PCCBs. For this and other reasons, Porsche itself recommends steel rotors for the owners that regularly track their cars. https://www.autoblog.com/2019/03/24/...r-race-tracks/
- If you’re enjoying your 911 like it should be enjoyed, the PCCBs don’t last forever. The $10k-ish incremental difference in purchase price brings with it much higher replacement costs on what is a wear and tear item.
07-22-2021, 08:41 PM
#57
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Thread Starter
I have also read in the forums that you can damage a rotor by a stone getting stuck in the caliper and then the you will need a new rotor at crazy high price. I am not sure if this a concern or not. Maybe a few people getting unlucky. It’s making me rethink them in my spec.
07-22-2021, 08:46 PM
#58
I have also read in the forums that you can damage a rotor by a stone getting stuck in the caliper and then the you will need a new rotor at crazy high price. I am not sure if this a concern or not. Maybe a few people getting unlucky. It’s making me rethink them in my spec.
07-22-2021, 08:48 PM
#59
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I am okay with a freak accident, just concerned if it is somewhat common.
