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I'm in San Diego quite often, at least once or twice a month. Would love to get a little crew together. I heard Palomar Mountain is a fun drive. My car doesn't arrive until December though.
sounds like fun I have not driven palomar with any of the Porsches yet
Enclosed Dyno is 415 Horse Power not 380 Porsche rating not a huge difference from the S which is only rated at 425 Horse Power ! actual Dyno Porsche rating 450 HP NOT .
992 S rated only 425 not 450
Last edited by Surfingjeff; 06-11-2023 at 06:16 PM.
Enclosed Dyno is 415 Horse Power not 380 Porsche rating not a huge difference from the S which is only rated at 425 Horse Power ! actual Dyno Porsche rating 450 HP NOT .
992 S rated only 425 not 450
Seems you didn't read that right. First, WHP is not the same as crank HP. Second, you're confusing factory numbers with tuned numbers (M Engineering).
Base stock WHP is 357. S stock WHP is 424.
Base tuned WHP is 415. S tuned WHP is 518.
Hilarious. Wasn’t sure if I was on the T crew site or surfer crew site for a second. Dood, hope there aren’t any Hodads here.
Porsches and surfing in Southern California is part of the culture here . Hand in hand yes slide the board into your Porsche .I’ll have to take a picture of my board through the sun roof in my T . When I had two Targa’s in the 1980’s the boards looked great .
Last edited by Surfingjeff; 06-11-2023 at 06:37 PM.
Seems you didn't read that right. First, WHP is not the same as crank HP. Second, you're confusing factory numbers with tuned numbers (M Engineering).
Base stock WHP is 357. S stock WHP is 424.
Base tuned WHP is 415. S tuned WHP is 518.
357 WHP is a pretty good number. I think folks know different types of dynos also. Lots of variables. This is rough estimate but assuming 15% crank to wheel drivetrain, etc. loss >> still roughly 410 at crank. Again, just rough conversion….anyway, 357 at wheels they quote is not bad. I don’t get too hung up on these figures. Whatever the case, power feels solid every time I drive my T!
357 WHP is a pretty good number. I think folks know different types of dynos also. Lots of variables. This is rough estimate but assuming 15% crank to wheel drivetrain, etc. loss >> still roughly 410 at crank. Again, just rough conversion….anyway, 357 at wheels they quote is not bad. I don’t get too hung up on these figures. Whatever the case, power feels solid every time I drive my T!
Did u get ur T yet?
Haven't picked it up yet. Soon...
Yeah, roughly 410HP sounds pretty good to me. Happy with the disclosed 380HP.
@tourenwagen is getting his T ecu upgraded. I hear u can do upgrade yourself easily these days. So not sure if he’s getting it dyno’d before and/or after?
U could get rough numbers. But I think he straight piped his T. So another factor.
Yessir, stage 2 ordered and looks like it's getting here tomorrow. Car should be close to 500hp at the crank (440WHP) on the M Engineering 93 tune. It's feeling the 480 ft/lbs TQ that I'm looking fwd to
As interesting as a before/after dyno would be, I don't have easy access to one, but I know from my 991.2T that the tune makes an incredible difference. The car felt like it doubled in power and was so much fun to pull in 2nd, 3rd and 4th.
I also get the added bonus of exhaust valves always being open, loud start elimination, stationary rev limiter removed and stop/start elimination in normal mode.
I talked to M-Engineering and asked about any concerns on the 7spd manual, he said he has done several manual cars in the 900hp range and no problems. Since we know the Sport Classic can handle 550hp, I should be just fine.
I'm not straight piped as I still have the factory cats but I do have the JCR titanium valved center in place which gives an amazing tone, the tune will bring the volume
Last edited by tourenwagen; 06-12-2023 at 12:38 AM.
Yessir, stage 2 ordered and looks like it's getting here tomorrow. Car should be close to 500hp at the crank (440WHP) on the M Engineering 93 tune. It's feeling the 480 ft/lbs TQ that I'm looking fwd to
I'm not straight piped as I still have the factory cats but I do have the JCR titanium valved center in place which gives an amazing tone, the tune will bring the volume
I was just messing with str8 pipe. Bro! Your T gonna be in a separate category soon, ha. I just don’t know what to do…..
there is one giant difference between the T and the S - $20,000 dollars difference actually for 10 hp?
this explains my experience in Europe driving a 911 992 - cab 4S PDK for three weeks and it just did not seem any faster or more “fun” than my 992 2021 911 Targa 4. If anything it seemed a tad more sluggish when I smashed down the accelerator.
The big difference between the carrera and the S are all the options that become available-like the manual trans and handling options like rear steer etc. and of course the cool and prestigious S badge.
the T negates even the available options in the S meaningless.
I was told by my SA that the only real difference are larger diameter turbo blades - to push more air. You do get some stuff like bigger brakes ( which are unnecessary as the T standard brakes stop the car just as fast as carbon ceramics on a GT3 ( see video below post).
My only point is I get the feeling that some T buyers feel some remorse about not buying a 911 S - but you should not - you made the start choice and adult choice. Unless your time racing or head to head with other cars on a track the 415 hp of the T is more than adequate to get you arrested if you stand on the accelerator for 10 seconds getting on the freeway and most of the time there is a car in front of you that forces you to slow down.
The Targa or the cabriolet 911’s are wonderful cars and having an opening top makes the car really enjoyable. I love driving the Targa 4 ( same as T engine) early in the morning on a back country road. The Sunroofs just don’t substitute for a true fully open top. Porsche needs to make the T available in the Targa or Cabriolet body next and not just the coupe. A manual transmission Targa T would be my choice. There is precedence for this car as my Dad owned a 1970 911T Targa.
Originally Posted by Surfingjeff
Enclosed Dyno is 415 Horse Power not 380 Porsche rating not a huge difference from the S which is only rated at 425 Horse Power ! actual Dyno Porsche rating 450 HP NOT .
992 S rated only 425 not 450
06-11-2023, 05:48 PM
Actual Horse Power of Base 992 and T
