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Hi
Is the Center Console for Standard T different from Base? See below picture. Does T have the "carbon fiber" (red circled area) together with gloss black or is all of it just gloss black? Db Carbon sells some CF stuff for gloss black but it's apparently a long wait so wanted to order in advance. Just not sure about the interior yet and can't figure it out from online configurator.
Thanks!
I have that section and the lower dash trim colour coded in body colour…
Not the best person to be giving an opinion on the car, since he has never driven a Base or an S... but at least its some more visual stimulation for those of us eagerly awaiting the Car!
The reviewer's name is Topher. Is that your alter-ego toph4242? Can't help but notice the uncanny similarity in names.
That's the car youtuber starter kit! The guy reviewing the T has one on too...
Camera clipped to your visor gives a good POV but yeah definite safety concerns.
Also I believe its a Maserati MC20, not a Lambo but could be wrong?
You're right. MC20. He actually said it in the vid. I don't know anything about Lambos or Maseratis. I prefer my cars in my garage, not in the shop. . Couldn't afford either anyway.
1. Lightweight
2. Purist 911 driving experience
3. Base is best value, you don’t need a bunch of extra stuff to enjoy the 911.
RAS does nothing for any of these. RAS adds weight. RAS alters the traditional 911 driving experience. RAS is an extra cost with marginal additional complications and maintenance.
Whereas Porsche has included the differential and the suspension as necessary for the driving experience by adding it standard (and of course pricing it in), they left out RAS, and that is despite adding the lightweight battery that typically accompanies it.
RAS gives better performance but so does PDK and I don’t see anyone arguing that PDK should be selected for the T since it’s standard on the GT3RS and GT4RS.
Just wanted to provide an opposing opinion from someone who left RAS out. I’m all for everyone getting what they want and developing their own “ethos” or not caring about ethos at all.
Just to beat the RAS dead horse some more, here's how I see the pros/cons.
Reasons to get RAS:
Lowers lap times
Standard on GT and Turbo cars - Porsche must believe it improves performance (see point #1)
Unique option on the T
Might help resale, as it seems there are more people that consider RAS a must have versus those that are passive or consider it a must NOT have option
Aids tight parking and U-turns
Improves high speed stability by virtually lengthening the wheelbase
Reasons to not get RAS:
Cost ($2090)
Adds weight (I've read about 20lbs/9kg??)
Adds complexity and additional computer intervention
Some report an unnatural or drift-like sensation in the rear
Some say it is a non-traditional, synthetic feel
Other than the T, optioning RAS forces the lightweight Li battery which has been problematic and costs $2500 to replace from Porsche. The lightweight battery is presumably included with RAS to offset the additional weight of RAS. It seems like later cars have fewer battery problems, so maybe this issue has been resolved.
The T is the only way to get the lightweight battery without RAS (I think)
I ordered the dashcam wiring extension from Checkered Flag Porsche a few weeks ago, as I planned on editing my order to include the camera pre-wire. Wasn't able to edit the order and it the wiring kit arrived yesterday.
If you spec'd the Dashcam pre-wire and haven't ordered the extension yet DM me your address and I'll send you my unopened box free of charge. First DM gets it. Paying it forward
Just to beat the RAS dead horse some more, here's how I see the pros/cons.
Reasons to get RAS:
Lowers lap times
Standard on GT and Turbo cars - Porsche must believe it improves performance (see point #1)
Unique option on the T
Might help resale, as it seems there are more people that consider RAS a must have versus those that are passive or consider it a must NOT have option
Aids tight parking and U-turns
Improves high speed stability by virtually lengthening the wheelbase
Reasons to not get RAS:
Cost ($2090)
Adds weight (I've read about 20lbs/9kg??)
Adds complexity and additional computer intervention
Some report an unnatural or drift-like sensation in the rear
Some say it is a non-traditional, synthetic feel
Other than the T, optioning RAS forces the lightweight Li battery which has been problematic and costs $2500 to replace from Porsche. The lightweight battery is presumably included with RAS to offset the additional weight of RAS. It seems like later cars have fewer battery problems, so maybe this issue has been resolved.
The T is the only way to get the lightweight battery without RAS (I think)
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Pretty good snapshot. I’ve never had RAS and I’m went back and forth on it. I finally spec’d it on my build because it improves low speed driving by making the car feel smaller and turn tighter, and increases high speed corner stability ( some say with an unnatural feel).
Not sure about the lithium battery being for just weight saving. The RAS has a couple of fat high current lines that I believe the RAS needs to operate correctly. I’m sure someone can correct me if I’m wrong.
Hi
Is the Center Console for Standard T different from Base? See below picture. Does T have the "carbon fiber" (red circled area) together with gloss black or is all of it just gloss black? Db Carbon sells some CF stuff for gloss black but it's apparently a long wait so wanted to order in advance. Just not sure about the interior yet and can't figure it out from online configurator.
Thanks!
The T does not have this Trim... This is a case and S standard trim that for some reason was converted to all Piano black for the T and GTS models.
You can not change the T trim to anything else (OTHER than to paint match it to exterior)... Having said that, the interior trim pieces are all the same size/dimensions to the other models, so you can order from Porsche or aftermarket locations different color trim pieces.. I plan to swap in either the Matte black or matte carbon once the car arrives and I get a chance to live with it for a bit. I wish this piece was available from factory, but it is not.
The T does not have this Trim... This is a case and S standard trim that for some reason was converted to all Piano black for the T and GTS models.
You can not change the T trim to anything else (OTHER than to paint match it to exterior)... Having said that, the interior trim pieces are all the same size/dimensions to the other models, so you can order from Porsche or aftermarket locations different color trim pieces.. I plan to swap in either the Matte black or matte carbon once the car arrives and I get a chance to live with it for a bit. I wish this piece was available from factory, but it is not.
I believe the extended leather dash option replaces the piano black plastic with leather on the Dash only. Unfortunately that option is one of those options the factory has recently deemed unavailable.
I ordered the dashcam wiring extension from Checkered Flag Porsche a few weeks ago, as I planned on editing my order to include the camera pre-wire. Wasn't able to edit the order and it the wiring kit arrived yesterday.
If you spec'd the Dashcam pre-wire and haven't ordered the extension yet DM me your address and I'll send you my unopened box free of charge. First DM gets it. Paying it forward
Not the best person to be giving an opinion on the car, since he has never driven a Base or an S... but at least its some more visual stimulation for those of us eagerly awaiting the Car!
That video has confirmed what I began to think hard about recently: that the slate grey stitching is actually a much better feature of the T interior package than people think.
It is custom-chosen to match and enhance the subdued grey pinstripes, which nicely accentuates the other dark-themed T interior that includes matte and gloss black features that differentiates it from a base or S model.
I have wanted the most value for my T purchase which is why I have specc'd my car with the lizard green stitching, taking advantage of "deviated stitching" without (quite) paying for it. I have always discounted the grey stitching because it doesn't "pop" or contrast like the chalk stitching does.
But that is kind of the point of the slate grey in the T interior: to be subtle in an otherwise darkened interior. I saw a picture on here recently of the chalk stitching in a checkered sport-tex interior. The chalk and grey in the sport tex don't clash, but seeing the video with the grey stitching and grey pin-stripe sport tex of the T interior package is making me think more and more about it. Which makes me think harder about the exterior color itself.
02-28-2023, 02:59 PM
. Couldn't afford either anyway.
