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These crazy over the top prices keep me somewhat satisfied, perhaps wrongly but it works for me that my car is worth more than I paid for it 6 mos. ago.
These crazy over the top prices keep me somewhat satisfied, perhaps wrongly but it works for me that my car is worth more than I paid for it 6 mos. ago.
Agreed. Realistically they are worth whatever someone is willing to pay for one.
Example; I overpaid for my one owner, manual, 997.2 C2 two years ago, but every time I get behind the wheel and turn the key I feel it was worth every penny.
Last edited by RatherJaded; 10-09-2023 at 08:01 PM.
Agree, but at least it includes additional aftermarket items....Not saying they are worth it, depends on the buyer.
- Sport H&R Suspension
- Fully Ceramic Coated
- 20" Hre Wheels Wrapped On New Michellin Pilot Sports Extra $8500.00
Agree, but at least it includes additional aftermarket items....Not saying they are worth it, depends on the buyer.
- Sport H&R Suspension
- Fully Ceramic Coated
- 20" Hre Wheels Wrapped On New Michellin Pilot Sports Extra $8500.00
You're spending a lot of time here trying to get opinions on your build. I don't think there is any build that has any value unless you have communication with the person you are investing so much time, money and effort trying to please. You're not changing shirts. You're contemplating selling a car you don't want to sell and buying one you don't really want to buy on a hope and a prayer that she may like it more and be willing to get in it. I previously suggested you take her to the dealership to see if she likes the 911 and you said she'd never do that. She has disdain for the things you love. I'm sorry but this is just bizarre to me. Listen, I'm really trying to be helpful. It will be tragic if you sell the car you and your kid love for something she'll be just as ambivalent about and lizard green accents is not a good start if she doesn't like loud colors. Maybe you guys just need to talk and make a decision together, don't you think?
The Spyder is a loud car overall. You show up with the top down in a loud in every way car and that is just not her. Interior physical loudness is not the issue. She used to ride in my turbocharged straight piped RX-7 with race seats and six point harness (before kids) without complaint. She works crazy hours and always tells me to make those decisions (which I usually do). I even designed her car including colors and options etc. However, her biggest issue is that we can't go anywhere as a family in the Spyder. We do stuff together as a family on the weekends and we can never take "papa's car". Yes, I need her to actually get into a Carrera and see if it makes sense to her and if we think we can fit the girls back there. However, I waited to get the call from the dealership that I had an allocation before I even talked with her about it. Now that I have an allocation, we had the conversation and she is willing to go to the dealer with me. We are looking for times that our schedules sync up this week. I honesty thought that she wouldn't want to go and was surprised that she showed interest as she usually doesn't show interest in my hobbies.
She doesn't care about the rest of the options and as long as it is not a bright color, she is fine with it. I let my four-year-old at the time pick the Spyder color and I showed it to my wife when I had finished the build. She took exactly 5 seconds of interest in in and went back to her work. She said she didn't realize it was a two-seater till it showed up. That is how much attention she paid when I walked her through the build. She wouldn't care less about the stitching color.
Originally Posted by Targa32
If your wife dislikes the spyder she won’t like the T either. The T rides rather stiffly and is noisy inside - less sound deadening. And she will really hate a GT3.
i also owing a Targa 4 - 2021- and that is a wonderful road car- easy to drive 409 miles a day. Comfortable with the comfort seats - fun with the top down and the kids can sit in the back and have a great view.
or ask for a base Carrera / my son has a 2023 Carrera / it has softer suspension and more sound deadening than the T and is a really great car as a touring car. And your wife will enjoy driving the base carrera with the wonderful PDK. The base Targa 4 also has a PDK.
this all depends on how much you really want to make her happy and willing to travel in the car with you,
she will dislike the T as much as the Spyder.
PDK is a deal killer so the base Carrera is out. We are both manual people. The GTS was considered and lot of nice options to play with but those builds can get bloated fast. I like the concept of a Targa but not the weight and the back seats are even smaller so that makes it even less of a four-seater than the Carrera. As mentioned above, the actual cabin noise is not the issue, it is the flashiness of the whole thing. No one bats an eye at a Carrera. The Spyder is an attention grabber and you get people at stoplights and gas stations talking to you about your car. I have owned Carreras and occasionally someone would say something but the Spyder is loud in that way that it is constant attention and in a bright color even more so.
Would she hate a GT3 Touring? She would hate that it didn't have a back seat but it is also a car that can fly under the radar and at least it won't mess up her hair. However, I don't have an allocation so it is kind of a mute point anyway.
@MaddMike I'm happy for you that she's willing to go to the dealer with you and it sounds like you guys are on the same page more so than before. After the Spyder experience, I'd hate for you to have a repeat of that with the 911. I truly hope you find a car all of you can enjoy together.
@MaddMike is this your daily driver? I understand the need to fit the family, but not in my toys. I have several toys, they are not for family play time. Sometimes one kid goes with me, or just the wife, for a quick drive. But rarely to car events. My car time tends to be my "me" time with friends. But I'm also basically an empty nester now, so there's much more me time now.
Last edited by AdamIsAdam; 10-10-2023 at 07:35 AM.
Why are there so many Porsche sports car buyers that want to “fly under the radar”? Seems like a major part of owning a beautiful sports car is well for it to look amazing and beautiful parked and while driving. So a few people give you a thumbs up or wave at you or walk over and tell you they appreciate your car.
i have a truck and an suv that fly under the radar.
Why are there so many Porsche sports car buyers that want to “fly under the radar”? Seems like a major part of owning a beautiful sports car is well for it to look amazing and beautiful parked and while driving. So a few people give you a thumbs up or wave at you or walk over and tell you they appreciate your car.
i have a truck and an suv that fly under the radar.
Agreed.
My Meteor Grey 997.2 gets very little attention and you rarely see 997s out on the roads in our city. They are kind of a rare sighting, especially dot 2s as it appears that the vast majority of locally owned 997s are now tucked away in garages as garage queens.
Any “special” color 992 or 718 attracts plenty of admiration at the local Cars & Coffee or PCA events. I personally appreciate that, but at my age (early 50s) I now greatly prefer to stand out versus blending in with everyone else. I did that for the vast majority of my life. I am over it!
Last edited by RatherJaded; 10-10-2023 at 09:30 AM.
Why are there so many Porsche sports car buyers that want to “fly under the radar”? Seems like a major part of owning a beautiful sports car is well for it to look amazing and beautiful parked and while driving. So a few people give you a thumbs up or wave at you or walk over and tell you they appreciate your car.
i have a truck and an suv that fly under the radar.
I'll speak for myself but my first Porsche was white, and the second was black. I think early on it felt a bright color would be too much 'show-off' to drive but I made it past that feeling with the third one!
Who knew that my Shark Blue CGTS would end up being the car that's under the radar! I don't fly under the radar in the T, that's for sure! (I have a white 4 door Audi for that. lol)
@MaddMike is this your daily driver? I understand the need to fit the family, but not in my toys. I have several toys, they are not for family play time. Sometimes one kid goes with me, or just the wife, for a quick drive. But rarely to car events. My car time tends to be my "me" time with friends. But I'm also basically an empty nester now, so there's much more me time now.
Sort of. We have three cars and two motorcycles so it fulfills DD duties when I want it to. I actually just sold a manual 535 not because we didn't like it but because there was no garage space or even driveway space. I kind of regret selling it as it was a fun car. I have motorcycles which are my toys. I take my six-year old to her swim lessons three times a week in the Spyder so that is our special thing. I also hybrid work these days so I go into the office once or twice a week. I sometimes take the Spyder and sometimes the motorcycle. I have done Costco or shopping runs in it but obviously, I have vehicles better suited for that. Unlike you, I have two small kids and the wife and I work all week so spending time together when we can is important.
Originally Posted by Targa32
Why are there so many Porsche sports car buyers that want to “fly under the radar”? Seems like a major part of owning a beautiful sports car is well for it to look amazing and beautiful parked and while driving. So a few people give you a thumbs up or wave at you or walk over and tell you they appreciate your car.
i have a truck and an suv that fly under the radar.
I'm fine with it. My wife does not like flash in general and that is her style. I can say, I don't like wings and over-the-top aero at least for a DD.
Originally Posted by TUD
Agreed.
My Meteor Grey 997.2 gets very little attention and you rarely see 997s out on the roads in our city. They are kind of a rare sighting, especially dot 2s as it appears that the vast majority of locally owned 997s are now tucked away in garages as garage queens.
Any “special” color 992 or 718 attracts plenty of admiration at the local Cars & Coffee or PCA events. I personally appreciate that, but at my age (early 50s) I now greatly prefer to stand out versus blending in with everyone else. I did that for the vast majority of my life. I am over it!
I live in a tech hub and you probably see as many Teslas as Toyotas. Lots of Porsche around here but mainly Macans and Tycans but lots of Panameras, Caymans, Boxters, and 911s so a 911 variant easily blends in--anything short of a GT3 RS. My wife believes that only Ferraris should be red . I think I have seen more McLarens than 718 Spyders as I see a McLaren maybe once a week and rarely if ever see a Spyder.
Agree, but at least it includes additional aftermarket items....Not saying they are worth it, depends on the buyer.
- Sport H&R Suspension
- Fully Ceramic Coated
- 20" Hre Wheels Wrapped On New Michellin Pilot Sports Extra $8500.00
I'd never mess with the suspension on my P car, it's not like Porsche doesn't know what it's doing. Had H&R Sport springs in my 650, it's not something I'd ever purposely repeat. Congrats on your T @ndmiller you'll have to post up pics when you get it.
10-09-2023, 07:32 PM
. I think I have seen more McLarens than 718 Spyders as I see a McLaren maybe once a week and rarely if ever see a Spyder.
