TXshaggy

It means that Porsche submitted their EPA certification application last week...lol. EPA has been approving applications in about a week.

The applications and certificates all all viewable on the EPA website. It appears applications are only posted after certification...so you won’t see 992 apps until the cert is posted.

CARB...who knows...

Bluehighways

But of course! What on earth would possibly lead one to believe otherwise?

slc4s

This feels like the most "real" update yet...

Feels like people will start seeing cars in the next 10 days

tfcoll

Goodwood is close to docking in Baltimore. Then off to Jacksonville...keeping my fingers crossed I will get my car before Thanksgiving.

Iceman23

my SA just updated that all cars in Jax just got pushed back another week. Been there almost two weeks. So if it’s not in that batch, before thanksgiving isn’t happening.

tfcoll

I guess I'll get a taste of the pain many others are feeling waiting for their cars that have been stuck at port.

Wilsontour

My car still at Emden Port so not quite following the EPA certification delay chaos. However just had a conversation with my SM this afternoon and I mentioned about the EPA push back incident here and the following is his response. Again, not necessary a fact, just try to share some information here.
[Quote from my SM]
"Good deal! I have some good news on the EPA front. I believe the new cars will start shipping this weekend (fingers crossed)."

Iceman23

its sucks! Just being honest

ryandarr1979

Who knows if Porsche has even submitted their applications to EPA and CARB or not. I just got the below from PCNA:

Dear Mr. Darr,

Thank you for your email regarding your 2021 911 Carrera S.

We are currently awaiting receipt of the final regulatory certification approvals required for Porsche’s new Porsche 911 Carrera S. As soon as we receive approval, your vehicle will be released for delivery.

Rest assured we are working with regulators to expedite this process. I encourage you to stay in contact with your Sales Professional at your local Porsche dealer. He will inform you as soon as your 2021 Porsche 911 Carrera S is released for delivery.

If you have any questions in the meantime, I am happy to help. Please reply directly to this email or call me at 1-800-PORSCHE.

Have a wonderful day.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards,


Customer Experience Specialist
Porsche Cars North America
One Porsche Drive
Atlanta, GA 30354
Phone: 1-800-PORSCHE (1-800-767-7243)
Email: customersupport@porsche.com

Babyray

The word “expedite” lost its meaning weeks ago.

mdrobc1213

Yep makes sense...let me reach out to a few "friends" and my SA.
Yes that is what I heard back....EPA aka POS from Feds clearance this week. CARB is CA entity and is a week behind the feds (not surprised given the dieselgate issues of a few years ago) and is expected next week with full release 20th Nov date as shown. Similar thing happened with Macans/Cayennes just now with EPA/FED THEN CARB release. Doesn't understand why they don't just do them simultaneously. Also suspects but would not say it was not as much Porsche's fault or something with the cars but that 2020 and COVID19 has made some normally easy process delayed and painful thus what should have happened (clearances) by the time the factory re-opened in Sept have been pushed to the right to include paperwork and requested certification docs arriving/being reviewed later than previously and some personnel not being in place normally to accomplish all these tasks. But again he doesn't work for EPA or CARB or even Porsche AG in these specific departments but like many businesses during the last 6 mos trying to get in touch with persons in house for work items/questions/actions has been "interesting" is how it was put.

Hopefully cars to all soon...sounds like a good Thanksgiving wish to me!

ryandarr1979

If it’s true that approvals are happening about a week after applications are submitted, which I doubt, then they should have submitted applications back when 2021 production completed models started three months ago.

Knutsm01

https://iaspub.epa.gov/otaqpub/

Search for yourself - it’s less than a week in a lot of cases across the board for every manufacturer.

speedyj

That prob is final submission, I bet there is a lot of back and forth and revisions being sent.

Knutsm01

You’re likely right. The EPA approval applications seem include CARB approval already. On the Macan/Cayenne App it has the approval letter from CARB and addresses a penalty that Porsche agreed to of $25 per car sold in California due to 3 deficiencies.