Soul Sport Cats installed in my C4...
10-02-2020, 10:12 AM
#61
Three Wheelin'
No, a tune doesn’t void the warranty on the car. If the car breaks however, and the dealer is able to diagnose that the cause was the tune, then they can deny warranty repair/replacement coverage for whatever component/components failed. Check out the Magnussen Moss Act.
That’s a huge uphill battle you’ll loose 9 times out of 10 when talking about a tune. So for most purposes yes the tune does void your warranty.
Even if you tune your car once and remove it. Porsche will know and look for that say you need a new engine or tranny, And you bet they will deny coverage of one is found.
I have lots of experience with this. So to me, tune equals no more drivetrain warranty period. If you create more power than the motor was designed for; then its an easy out for them.
Again I mean no disrespect at all. I’m not attacking you. I’m just sharing what I’ve experienced.
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10-02-2020, 09:51 PM
#62
Three Wheelin'
While technically correct. And I mean no disrespect. But you tune your car and your turbo goes out, your water pump leaks, or your PDK breaks. It’s REAL easy for them to find the tune and say the higher stress/power the tune created was the cause.
That’s a huge uphill battle you’ll loose 9 times out of 10 when talking about a tune. So for most purposes yes the tune does void your warranty.
Even if you tune your car once and remove it. Porsche will know and look for that say you need a new engine or tranny, And you bet they will deny coverage of one is found.
I have lots of experience with this. So to me, tune equals no more drivetrain warranty period. If you create more power than the motor was designed for; then its an easy out for them.
Again I mean no disrespect at all. I’m not attacking you. I’m just sharing what I’ve experienced.
That’s a huge uphill battle you’ll loose 9 times out of 10 when talking about a tune. So for most purposes yes the tune does void your warranty.
Even if you tune your car once and remove it. Porsche will know and look for that say you need a new engine or tranny, And you bet they will deny coverage of one is found.
I have lots of experience with this. So to me, tune equals no more drivetrain warranty period. If you create more power than the motor was designed for; then its an easy out for them.
Again I mean no disrespect at all. I’m not attacking you. I’m just sharing what I’ve experienced.
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10-02-2020, 11:48 PM
#63
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No, a tune doesn’t void the warranty on the car. If the car breaks however, and the dealer is able to diagnose that the cause was the tune, then they can deny warranty repair/replacement coverage for whatever component/components failed. Check out the Magnussen Moss Act.
Have you ever had to arbitrate a case involving the MMW? Much less litigate one?
If you have, you wouldn't be so cavalier with your advice.
If you haven't, then you shouldn't be so cavalier. Period.
10-05-2020, 05:13 PM
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Do you have any periodic emissions inspections where you live in Canada? If you do and depending on how thorough the person is who does the inspection and/or the equipment they use to perform the inspection, removing or replacing the Catalytic Converters can cause you to have a problem when it comes time to have the car inspected.
Where I live in California, simply replacing a catalytic converter that is not approved by the manufacturer (OEM) of the vehicle (or has what is called an Executive Order (E.O.) number, if it's not an OEM piece) is more than enough cause to prevent you from passing the required biannual emissions inspection and registering the vehicle. On top of that, if you ever sell the vehicle to a private party in California (not a car dealership) you as the seller are on the hook to make sure that it passes the emissions inspection. So "Caveat Emptor" when purchasing such items can be critical around these here parts. Either that, or every two years you have to convert everything back to stock to pass the emissions inspection and then you get to put all the toys back on the vehicle for the next 2 years until another emission inspection rolls around.
Where I live in California, simply replacing a catalytic converter that is not approved by the manufacturer (OEM) of the vehicle (or has what is called an Executive Order (E.O.) number, if it's not an OEM piece) is more than enough cause to prevent you from passing the required biannual emissions inspection and registering the vehicle. On top of that, if you ever sell the vehicle to a private party in California (not a car dealership) you as the seller are on the hook to make sure that it passes the emissions inspection. So "Caveat Emptor" when purchasing such items can be critical around these here parts. Either that, or every two years you have to convert everything back to stock to pass the emissions inspection and then you get to put all the toys back on the vehicle for the next 2 years until another emission inspection rolls around.
-Mike
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10-20-2020, 01:00 AM
#65
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10-20-2020, 01:00 AM
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10-20-2020, 10:01 PM
#67
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after 4 hrs and me making tools with my dremel it was out.
the actual install was 20 minutes after that. i did this install on both my gts's and this is definately easier.
10-20-2020, 10:10 PM
#68
Three Wheelin'
did mine today...thought it would be quick and it was until last step which should take 10 seconds to undo Torca clamp but HANS at the factory decided to have bolt upside down so access is from the top.
after 4 hrs and me making tools with my dremel it was out.
the actual install was 20 minutes after that. i did this install on both my gts's and this is definately easier.
after 4 hrs and me making tools with my dremel it was out.
the actual install was 20 minutes after that. i did this install on both my gts's and this is definately easier.
I dont know if you guys had these on your 991.2, but I found them to be much louder on the 991.2 than my 992. The induction noises seemed WAY louder on the 991.2.
10-20-2020, 10:32 PM
#69
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I ran into that too. I suspect they did the exhaust with the motor on the ground. I dunno, but that sucked! I feel for you!
I dont know if you guys had these on your 991.2, but I found them to be much louder on the 991.2 than my 992. The induction noises seemed WAY louder on the 991.2.
I dont know if you guys had these on your 991.2, but I found them to be much louder on the 991.2 than my 992. The induction noises seemed WAY louder on the 991.2.
i think the "problem" here is the valves on 992
10-20-2020, 11:20 PM
#70
did mine today...thought it would be quick and it was until last step which should take 10 seconds to undo Torca clamp but HANS at the factory decided to have bolt upside down so access is from the top.
after 4 hrs and me making tools with my dremel it was out.
the actual install was 20 minutes after that. i did this install on both my gts's and this is definately easier.
after 4 hrs and me making tools with my dremel it was out.
the actual install was 20 minutes after that. i did this install on both my gts's and this is definately easier.
10-20-2020, 11:51 PM
#72
Three Wheelin'
But if those bastards are facing up, its very difficult to jerry rig a tool to loosen them. That's one thing the directions should tell you to check before you get started.
As long as those are easy to loosen, the rest is easy and pretty straight forward.
10-21-2020, 12:29 AM
#73
I'd pop you head under and look for the clamps bolts. The big clamps around the turbo. If the driver head is facing down to where you can loosen them, you are in luck!
But if those bastards are facing up, its very difficult to jerry rig a tool to loosen them. That's one thing the directions should tell you to check before you get started.
As long as those are easy to loosen, the rest is easy and pretty straight forward.
But if those bastards are facing up, its very difficult to jerry rig a tool to loosen them. That's one thing the directions should tell you to check before you get started.
As long as those are easy to loosen, the rest is easy and pretty straight forward.
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