rk-d

Also the GT3 was C4s width. The GT3RS and GT2RS were Turbo width.

chance6

Yep I'd be shocked too. The 3.8 TT is heritage for the true Turbo cars. They can reposition the intercoolers, improve cylinder liners, and use better fuel injectors and different intake on the new 992 TTS.

frankchn

The Turbo bodies also have the pair of side air intakes for the intercoolers, which the green car doesn’t have.

chance6

After sitting in a 992 S again yesterday at the dealer, I really like the new interior, provided that it has full leather and 18-way seats. Even the std trim on the dash looks pretty decent. It's an improvement. Two other things I noticed while sitting in the driver's seat: you can lower the seat farther into the body, with a better range of motion, AND the rear hips look different than 991 C4 widebody when looking out the side mirror. The overall width in the rear may be the same as 991 C4, but the shape is different.

chance6

And the Panamera has Mamba green!

Doug H

Once again, who says those are really GTS photos. Seems like photo ops driven by speculation based solely on centerl locks. They could throw center locks on anything to test new wheels, brakes and etc.

I will be shocked if GTS does not have same body as Turbo. Porsche will do something fairly substantial to make S and C4S guys wants to upgrade to GTS when it comes out late in the cycle. A little change in hp won’t serve that purpose.

chance6

But won't a GTS body matching Turbo width possibly take away from true Turbo sales?

Doug H

Didn’t take away turbo sales with earlier models. Inlets, rear bumper, spoiler, front end treatment will all be different on Turbo. The performance of Turbo is hyper car. A buddy of mine that drove it said 2.0 to 2.1 0-60.

The GTS performance won’t be vastly different than the S/4S or near Turbo, but will be set apart by wide body without inlets, center locks and maybe a suspension tweak. The wide body with a little hp bump without turbo body treatment will make it desirable. Lol, that’s my take. We shall see.

rk-d

I'll be honest - the Carrera is wide enough. Agree with chance6 -- the rear fenders have a different shape and it's dramatically bigger looking in the rear view. Wider hips without those intakes to break it up would look Kardashian.

JMartinni

1) Porsche test new models way in advance of their market launch.
2) The 991 GTS had center locks.
3) Fold down the seats in a 992 Carrera and it looks just like that.
4) There is no 992 GT2 yet, and a GT2 certainly would have side intakes like a Turbo given the cooling requirements.

As for the "source" saying this is the wide Turbo body without intakes (and different design elements in the lower corners)... I think people kid themself expecting Porsche to make a new body style for just one model trim instead of reusing existing parts.

fxz

That green is ready for production not a mule

btw do you really need a test far before the launch for just a tiny 25 HP added to the current 992 2S 3liters turbo?

Doug H

I am definitely Porsche target market for Turbo and GTS. I would not purchase a GTS in a C4S/S body. Makes zero sense. Why would anyone dump an S/4S for a GTS with same body and a little extra hp when you can easily tune the S/4S for more hp.

Dude, come on. Do you really think difficult to make a wide body without the turbo inlets and spoiler. Just don’t punch holes in them and walla, GTS

I will ask a few guys I know that would know answer. Candidly, I have not been interested in GTS as I am getting Turbo, but who the heck would want to pay premium $$$ for a GTS that looks like OP picture.

GTS will hopefully also have a more exciting front as well as wider hips.

GrantG

If one is inclined to tune, just imagine the tuning potential of a GTS using the 3.8TT...

This may be part of the rationale behind the new GTS strategy of using a detuned better motor, rather than up-tuned lower motor...

rk-d

1) People don't want to tune their car and risk their warranty

2) GTS is a *value* package. You get CL wheels, Alcantara special interior bits, sportdesign exterior with custom black bits included along with sports package. It's a high value trim level, more than a no holds barred trim level. Custom panels cuts their profit margin and Porsche loves their profit margins.

3) People buy GTS for the nameplate and the value and the higher resale value as well as the incremental performance increase. Honestly, losing wide-body was a much bigger deal for the C4s than it would be for the GTS. People who craved a 991 wide body would typically just get a C4S instead of stretching out for a GTS which dealers discount less.

3) Short of you asking Andreas Preuninger, most information is arguable. Like you said - we'll see. Maybe you prove us wrong -- personally I'd be very surprised.

ryandarr1979

As he said, “his sources wouldn’t lie to him given he’s bought a new 911 turbo from them every 1-3 years since 1988 and other niceties including Carrera GT.....” LOL (my vote for douchiest comment of 2020....)