Gravs

No-one upgrades from C2S to GTS. It's an end-of-line value package as others have mentioned already.

GTS has never had a wider body than C4S.

They didn't even punch holes in the 991 turbo fenders when they borrowed them for the 3RS.

Yes we think it's a GTS because it looks like a C4S with centre locks. What else would be different? Smoked rear lights I guess?

Doug H

May keast get what I said straight before personally slamming me. I said I was told the Turbo, not the GTS, had a wide body. It was also 1989 not 1983 . . .

detansinn

The Carrera GTS has effectively been a super option package for Carrera for a few generations now. It’s been the better deal if you were going to load up an S anyway, plus, you get some additional features and options like center locks and Alcantara. Of course, you also get some additional warranteed horsepower.

In the past, it received the Carrera 4/s widebody even in RWD form. This used to be one of the perks, but won’t be a differentiator in the 992 gen as Porsche has stated that all Carreras will have the same widebody this generation, regardless whether they are RWD or AWD. Again, the Carrera GTS is a Carrera.

It’s still going to be worth it if you want the top dog Carrera and will be the fastest 911 with available four seats outside of the TT/TTS cars.

Doug H

C4S hasn’t been the same size as a C2S since perhaps the 993 either . . .

Many go from S and 4S to a GTS when it hits. Lol, you guys get a little worked up and defensive over this stuff which really ain’t super important at all. Enjoy your Sunday.

Benedict14

This is going to be amusing.

Denny Swift

I was thinking the same thing. How long until the “dually” is released?

chance6

I just can't see the 992 GTS getting a wider body than the S/4S. To me I guess it's odd to have a Turbo wide body without the inlets...seems weird. Would be a definite departure from previous approach. The beauty of previous GTS models was the power bump, and the mix of other sporty equipment, such as lowering the car 10 mm, PDK tweak, CL wheels, etc.

To me a 475 hp GTS with centerlocks and more sporty PDK shifting, maybe a higher extending wing, etc. is pretty appealing at the right price.

chance6

If the GTS has a wider body than the S/4S and it has a detuned 3.8 TT, I will guarantee that car will pillage some of the big boy Turbo sales. "Hmm, well this car lists for $139k and has 475 hp and it's quicker than a GT3" and "the new Turbo S also has a 3.8 liter but it lists for $201k"- and if this economy takes a d*ump then folks will be banging for that GTS.

chance6

That said, maybe they are approaching limits on the 3.0 liter in terms of power output- maybe they can slap on bigger turbos...but maybe they don't want to do that. I guess we'll see.

Slingray

Exactly

rk-d

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Slingray

Tuners have the current 992 engine running close to 550hp, on the current turbos (Porsche normally upgrade the turbos on the GTS), so the 3.0 has plenty more to give.

... Another reason the 992 GTS getting the Turbo motor is complete baloney.

Principissimo

People buying Turbo and Turbo S, at least here in Italy, buy them cause the power and the fact you can see it is The Special 911. Don't think a 3.08 GTS will change this

Doug H

Perhaps I am misunderstanding what you are saying or perhaps a couple of you guys are pretty new to the brand . . . , but I have a 2012 GTS and it is the turbo width without the inlets. I just sold my 991.2 Turbo and I thought, perhaps incorrectly, it was the same width as the 991.2 GTS without the inlets.

When it came out, the allure of the 997.2 GTS was the ability to get a wide body in a RWD configuration ala modern GT2 when it appeared in 996 trim. The GTS in recent years has become a somewhat massed produced, watered down marketing ploy without a true identity designed to generate sales #s late in model cycles. I see/hope that the GTS will mean something a bit special with the 992.

The base model 911s have reached a performance level that is already quick enough for public streets in a straight line and well beyond the limits of the car control skills possessed by 99% of those on here or purchasing them. I think most purchase Turbos at this stage (post 991.1 and now that everything is FI) not for the performance increase, but for the looks. I purchased turbos since the 3.2 days to overcome the anemic low end torque the NA 911s had for city driving and because wide bodies with tails were what 911s were all about throughout the years.

Now that Porsche has made the bodies of the base models C2, C4, C2s and C4S all the same and EVERYTHING is FI . . . I think they will set apart the Turbo and GTXs with wider bodies from the base cars. Also kind of blown away someone would think this green car in OP seemingly in narrow body (non-turbo) trim in OP could be a GT2. I would definitely think GT2 will be in Turbo trim on steroids.

Sausage416

spotted a gts cab.