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I don't keep up with everything. Are we pretty sure there will be a 992 GT3, and that it will be NA? I too am struggling to see how a NA 992 GT3 will be significantly faster than the 991.2 GT3 (assuming equal tires). I was surprised at how much faster the 991.2 GT3 is over the 991.1 GT3, but the increase in torque/hp and more aero can explain that, and maybe they improved the damping software. What other tricks can they still have up their sleeve? Any change in the wheelbase and track widths of the 992 vs 991?
I am already starting to really like it. I don’t like the weight or size, but from some angles they have almost showed more alignment with earlier shapes. Not sure on the rear light or some of the interior but... good job guys
I think the flatter nose and wider stance with minimal height movement is a great look. From the pictures front on and rear shots look a little strange but until you see in the flesh, difficult to complain
there are several ways to increase performance other than improving power-to-weight ratio. If it weren’t so, Porsche 911’s wouldn’t be as competitive as they’ve been against rivals with far more HP relative to their curb weights.
The heavier 8-speed PDK is an example. The extra ratios probably help increase performance despite the added weight (or at least make it a wash), while also offering improved fuel economy and refinement (whether the latter is desiresble in a future GT3 is another matter).
Better grip (tires and wheel sizes, suspension tuning) helps put the power to better use.
Aerodymanics reduces drag drag and pits power to better use.
Software (engine tuning / throttle mapping, etc) can get more real world performance from the same mechanical engine.
The above are all relatively inexpensive tweaks Porsche can do to make a 992.1 GT3 outperform the 991.2 GT3 even with only a modest bump in HP despite some extra weight. But note that if the new PDK is responsible for a lot of that offset, a manual version could be slower relative to PDK in future than the manual v PDK version is in the current gen, unless a 992.1 GT3 manual is a lot lighter than the 8-speed PDK.
But Porsche could do some more exotic things, for a cost, like more CF, magnesium, titanium parts to save weight; or even some mild Hybrid assist for performance benefit only (not economy), which could involve a relatively small battery pack that uses regenerative charging mainly and gives bursts of assist for quick acceleration off the line and out of corners.
Location: The way to hell is paved by good intentions “Wenn ich Purist höre...entsichere ich meinen Browning” "Myths are fuel for marketing (and nowadays for flippers too,,,)" time to time is not sufficient to be a saint, you must be also an Hero
991.2 4s Vs 992 4s
the 992 is 65 kg heavier
they need at least 570HP engine on the next GT3 to keep up with added 65kg weight, mandatory particle filter and increase the performances
where they will find the extra 60/70 hp with the 991,2GT3 engine is a mistery
One thing I bet we will see for sure: 992 Turbo S will definitely be hybrid just like new Panamera Turbo S.
Then the eventual 992 GT2 RS will follow that same route with big HP turbo motor combined with hybrid for probably 800+ HP.
Totally agree. This is exactly what I was thinking. Too bad they did not just stick with PDK lever from the Panamera for the 992 line and instead went with that tiny electric razor.
Maybe a 5K CXX option down the line LOL
Wider front track with bigger tires, active aero, and new suspension working with new e-diff and software could make a big performance difference on the track.
Exterior looks good. Hopefully they improve the interior for the GT cars. GT3 with carbon tub would be nice
have heard carbon tub will be a no cost option
Originally Posted by Drifting
It's a good thing we all like different things, such as my buddies who prefer girls that are clearly ugly......like the 992
I'm just wondering how the 992.1 GT3 will outperform the 991.2? I've been assuming Porsche will get the most of their investment in the 4.0L engine variants, by dropping the 991.2 RS engine into the 992.1 GT3. I don't think the 992.1 GT3 will be turbo, and for the purposes of my argument, lets assume the 992.1 GT3 stays NA.
According to the Porsche website, the 992.1 carrera S weighs 163 pounds more than the 991.2 carrera S. So the 992.1 GT3 is sure to weigh more than the 991.2 GT3. If they give the 992.1 GT3 the RS engine, it will still have a power to weight ratio that is worse than the 991.2 GT3 due to that extra 163 pounds. So I'm wondering how they will make it faster than the 991.2 GT3? 163 pounds is a lot! And Porsche prefers the GT3 to share as many components with the carrera as possible for simpler easier cheaper production.
A significant percentage of the increased weight of the new carrera came from the new 8 speed PDK and the space necessary for hybrid motor, and also to strengthen hybrid equipment attachment points and crashworthiness necessary when the 992.2 carrera gets a hybrid option. If they can remove some or all of that for the 992.1 GT3 then I have faith it will be faster than the 991.2 GT3. (though it will certainly be an uglier car.....)
However if they have to keep all that weight for component cost sharing/crash test approvals, etc, I don't know how the 992.1 GT3 will be faster than the 991.2 GT3 (assuming the next GT3 stays NA).
Originally Posted by Manifold
I don't keep up with everything. Are we pretty sure there will be a 992 GT3, and that it will be NA? I too am struggling to see how a NA 992 GT3 will be significantly faster than the 991.2 GT3 (assuming equal tires). I was surprised at how much faster the 991.2 GT3 is over the 991.1 GT3, but the increase in torque/hp and more aero can explain that, and maybe they improved the damping software. What other tricks can they still have up their sleeve? Any change in the wheelbase and track widths of the 992 vs 991?
992 GT3 will be NA and will be faster than the prior version in the same way it always happens - gradual, incremental evolution.
992 has 21” rears which will alone will allow the new GT3 to perform at a materially higher level in terms of laptime. 21” 325 MPSC2 is part of the 918/GT3RS/GT2RS secret sauce.
Mules also appear to feature swan neck or active rear wing.
11-29-2018, 09:48 AM
