Love the 992??! Please come in and tell us why in a NON BASHING, CONSTRUCTIVE thread
11-13-2018, 08:30 AM
#196
Race Car
Porsche complicated that conclusion back in the 1970s with different emission management configurations for different markets (leading to the grey market in the US). When they got fed up they strapped on a turbo, called it the 930 and blew away the cobwebs!
11-13-2018, 11:58 AM
#197
Three Wheelin'
11-13-2018, 04:06 PM
#198
Ask yourself, in normal driving, how much faster can you go? The base 991.2 is already fast, do you really need another tenth off 0-60?
This HP race is just a marketing ploy, numbers game for bragging rights. Do you really need 450+ HP?
That being said, you buy the car that's available when you're ready, if there aren't any new 991.2s available and you want a new 911, you buy the new model, the one Porsche puts out, with the extra HP and current features.
Is new always better? Guess not, see what some of the older 911s are worth, even the 912 and 914 are now desirable, back when they came out, they weren't loved. Go figure.
I won't live long enough to see if the C4S I ordered will become one of the "chosen", but it's enough for me.
This HP race is just a marketing ploy, numbers game for bragging rights. Do you really need 450+ HP?
That being said, you buy the car that's available when you're ready, if there aren't any new 991.2s available and you want a new 911, you buy the new model, the one Porsche puts out, with the extra HP and current features.
Is new always better? Guess not, see what some of the older 911s are worth, even the 912 and 914 are now desirable, back when they came out, they weren't loved. Go figure.
I won't live long enough to see if the C4S I ordered will become one of the "chosen", but it's enough for me.
11-13-2018, 05:53 PM
#199
Ask yourself, in normal driving, how much faster can you go? The base 991.2 is already fast, do you really need another tenth off 0-60?
This HP race is just a marketing ploy, numbers game for bragging rights. Do you really need 450+ HP?
That being said, you buy the car that's available when you're ready, if there aren't any new 991.2s available and you want a new 911, you buy the new model, the one Porsche puts out, with the extra HP and current features.
Is new always better? Guess not, see what some of the older 911s are worth, even the 912 and 914 are now desirable, back when they came out, they weren't loved. Go figure.
I won't live long enough to see if the C4S I ordered will become one of the "chosen", but it's enough for me.
This HP race is just a marketing ploy, numbers game for bragging rights. Do you really need 450+ HP?
That being said, you buy the car that's available when you're ready, if there aren't any new 991.2s available and you want a new 911, you buy the new model, the one Porsche puts out, with the extra HP and current features.
Is new always better? Guess not, see what some of the older 911s are worth, even the 912 and 914 are now desirable, back when they came out, they weren't loved. Go figure.
I won't live long enough to see if the C4S I ordered will become one of the "chosen", but it's enough for me.
Damn you and your cold rational logic...
11-13-2018, 10:09 PM
#200
11-13-2018, 10:40 PM
#201
Instructor
I like the front hood, the wider stance and tires and the lights. I don't like the back of the car or the fact that that there are so many upgrade options for the interior. It should be as good as it can be, right from the start.
11-13-2018, 11:37 PM
#202
Rennlist Member
Sounds great until it's time to write the check.
11-19-2018, 08:29 AM
#204
Being able to buy a car that is only expensive because of quality, not frills has been a tenet of Porsche since the beginning.
11-19-2018, 08:36 AM
#205
Race Car
when has a new 911 ever been slower than the older version?
Tell that to the 911 Turbo which was introduced that year.
Based on hysterical reaction to the latest tail light styling and the prospect of a 911 hybrid in a couple of years, I guess some here will regard that as the first step toward the demise of the purity of the brand and its historical failure in the enthusiast marketplace.
Tell that to the 911 Turbo which was introduced that year.
Based on hysterical reaction to the latest tail light styling and the prospect of a 911 hybrid in a couple of years, I guess some here will regard that as the first step toward the demise of the purity of the brand and its historical failure in the enthusiast marketplace.
11-19-2018, 11:10 AM
#206
Problem is, interior quality or rather quality content seems to be taking a bit of a back step with the 992. Where most other manufactures are marching forward with making their interiors (and exteriors) look rich with better materials compared to the previous generation, from the first looks and rumors it appears (at least to me) that VW did a little cost cutting here and actually downgraded a few things. If I bought a 992 today, I'd want it to be at least finished with the same or preferably better quality materials compared to the 991, but I don't see that here. Bring it on in person though for the final judgement!
11-19-2018, 11:15 AM
#207
Three Wheelin'
^^ you haven't even seen the finished product. Whats the point of assuming it will be cheap and brutal? I really don't get it.
11-19-2018, 11:39 AM
#208
)......"We want to save money on the 911 as it is not our focal point any longer, we value content in our better sellers such as the Mecan, Cayenne and Panamera over it. We will make the 992 perform better compared to the previous model as no buyer would accept reduced performance from a 911, but our mission is clear.....require buyers to now option up to present standard 991.X levels, and then make them go beyond to increase margin. In this manner we can keep the 911 alive and focus on spending the monies saved on its hybrid / EV replacement in the near future."
11-19-2018, 03:38 PM
#209
Race Car
The more I see of the 992 the more I like it. The blacked out lower front and rear facias seem to pick up "body cut away" look of current GT3 race cars. The new front flares cover a wider track and standard wider rear flares wider standard wheels and tires. Beyond the marketing aspect, I can see the all sorts of good reasons for a single readily modified panel there.
I am not a big fan of the corporate narrower tail lights. By comparison to the 991, It seems forced "moderne" and getting to be pretty commonplace, from Aston's latest to Lincoln SUVs. The "light bar" between the lights has been used for about for about 40 years on one 911 or another, so I get the reference. It would not stop me from buying one but it also doesn't attract me. Maybe that will change when I actually see the car in person.
Still the performance improvements will have to be substantial to pry me out of my 991.1 C2S. That has nothing to do with the gibberish about corporate direction that abounds here. It is just that the 991 is just so damn right for me- the best by far of the P-cars I've owned since 1973.
I am not a big fan of the corporate narrower tail lights. By comparison to the 991, It seems forced "moderne" and getting to be pretty commonplace, from Aston's latest to Lincoln SUVs. The "light bar" between the lights has been used for about for about 40 years on one 911 or another, so I get the reference. It would not stop me from buying one but it also doesn't attract me. Maybe that will change when I actually see the car in person.
Still the performance improvements will have to be substantial to pry me out of my 991.1 C2S. That has nothing to do with the gibberish about corporate direction that abounds here. It is just that the 991 is just so damn right for me- the best by far of the P-cars I've owned since 1973.
