Originally Posted by chuckbdc

The more I see of the 992 the more I like it. The blacked out lower front and rear facias seem to pick up "body cut away" look of current GT3 race cars. The new front flares cover a wider track and standard wider rear flares wider standard wheels and tires. Beyond the marketing aspect, I can see the all sorts of good reasons for a single readily modified panel there.

I am not a big fan of the corporate narrower tail lights. By comparison to the 991, It seems forced "moderne" and getting to be pretty commonplace, from Aston's latest to Lincoln SUVs. The "light bar" between the lights has been used for about for about 40 years on one 911 or another, so I get the reference. It would not stop me from buying one but it also doesn't attract me. Maybe that will change when I actually see the car in person.

Still the performance improvements will have to be substantial to pry me out of my 991.1 C2S. That has nothing to do with the gibberish about corporate direction that abounds here. It is just that the 991 is just so damn right for me- the best by far of the P-cars I've owned since 1973.

Originally Posted by Rocket_boy

.....and every time Porsche is made to do something,....whether it be for emissions, a limit on displacement, etc.,....some things are always lost in the transition. Yes, the replacement cars often produce better "numbers" in most areas, but always leave some things behind that were very dear to previous generations. Think 993 to 996, 991.1 to 991.2, even 944 Turbo S to 944 S2 & 968, and some others.

The bulk of new buyers to the Porsche brand (those even still looking at the sports cars) have never experienced some of the previous generations unique characteristics nor do they really care about them. All that matters is that the new car seems to be faster compared to the out-going model so it must be "better",.....it doesn't seem to matter that a 718 turbo motor really sounds horrible and has lag compared to the last flat six,....it's a few ticks faster so of course it's better. Just compare a top down drive in a 718 Boxter to that of the previous flat six GTS,....in reality there is no comparison, I can't see how someone would even want to listen to the turbo 4 for long. Porsche would still be using a flat-six today with way better sales if not for the changes that so called "had" to be made.

Will the 992 produce better numbers all the way around,....definitely!, but IMO this will be one of those generations that leaves a lot behind (shifter, analog gauges, connected exhausts, 911 original design characteristics, actual exhaust/intake sounds over fake, quality over cost cutting). I'm sure it will sell, and sell well in the beginning. There are new generations coming up that grew up on smaller turbo motors, hybrids, latest tech = kwel, and on,.....many will not even have a clue or care about previous generations of sports car characteristics,....it just will not, does not register. It will keep going until the full electric version of the 911 is announced and then pretty much all but the speed aspect will be gone, and by then it really won't matter as I'm not sure many sports cars will remain,....and the average Toyota will be just as fast as a 911. All the soul that made a sports car a magnet to me (especially a 911), is just slowly being winnowed away. Times change,....what once appealed to many, will change in the future....

Originally Posted by natman316

one thing I love that I havent really seen discussed is that it has no nipples!! (headlamp washers).