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My 1997 993 turbo was $120k with modest options. My 2007 997 turbo was $130k with modest options. My 2022 992 TTS was $235k with modest+ options. I do believe that Porsche is starting to believe they can price cars into the exotic realm and not lose client base nor revenue.
My 1997 993 turbo was $120k with modest options. My 2007 997 turbo was $130k with modest options. My 2022 992 TTS was $235k with modest+ options. I do believe that Porsche is starting to believe they can price cars into the exotic realm and not lose client base nor revenue.
992 TT/S is the most potent car one can buy that's daily usable and not exotic looking. For those who want to the car to be somewhat low key (not exotic), Porsche has that market cornered and so can push the price up.
With my 992 TTS having recently hit a deer, if the insurance decides to total the car, I'm inclined to replace it with another 992 TT/S, or maybe a 991.2 TTS.
My 1997 993 turbo was $120k with modest options. My 2007 997 turbo was $130k with modest options. My 2022 992 TTS was $235k with modest+ options. I do believe that Porsche is starting to believe they can price cars into the exotic realm and not lose client base nor revenue.
You skipped the 991 TTS. That would have been probably ~180k with modest options.
So +$10k, +$10k, +$50k, +$50k. Anything more than $280k for the next generation will be bordering on highway robbery.
TTS is a great car, but it's not a Ferrari or Lamborghini. It's a more middle-class sports car with some elements of exotic-car performance. I think that's the way Porsche always intended the car to be marketed: it's a nice sports car that has a hidden top-end. It's not a true supercar like a Carrera GT or a 918 Spyder, which were designed to fill that niche role.
I think Porsche marketing new TTSes as being on the same level as true exotics is a mistake. The people who buy a $500k Ferrari are very different from the people that buy a $200k Porsche.
Sounds like you should exit the 992 Turbo forum for a while and stick to the C300 my man... get a nice ice cream if you're looking for a cheap indulgence haha.
Nah, I'm going to get one for myself (the wife permitting, lol), I just have to be certain it's a good deal. I won't be able to sleep at night if I get fleeced by someone (salesman, flipper, previous owner)
You skipped the 991 TTS. That would have been probably ~180k with modest options.
So +$10k, +$10k, +$50k, +$50k. Anything more than $280k for the next generation will be bordering on highway robbery.
TTS is a great car, but it's not a Ferrari or Lamborghini. It's a more middle-class sports car with some elements of exotic-car performance. I think that's the way Porsche always intended the car to be marketed: it's a nice sports car that has a hidden top-end. It's not a true supercar like a Carrera GT or a 918 Spyder, which were designed to fill that niche role.
I think Porsche marketing new TTSes as being on the same level as true exotics is a mistake. The people who buy a $500k Ferrari are very different from the people that buy a $200k Porsche.
My 991.2 TTS was such a sleeper, and so rapid. Would eat almost anything alive. Was $216k new in early 2020.
My 991.2 TTS was such a sleeper, and so rapid. Would eat almost anything alive. Was $216k new in early 2020.
Yeah, 991.1 TTS in 2014-2015 was probably less? But to the original point, the cost has been following a predictable curve upward. Going to $400k MSRP in 2029 would be a dramatic increase beyond this curve, almost like changing the brand completely to mirror Ferrari / Lamborghini.
My 1997 993 turbo was $120k with modest options. My 2007 997 turbo was $130k with modest options. My 2022 992 TTS was $235k with modest+ options. I do believe that Porsche is starting to believe they can price cars into the exotic realm and not lose client base nor revenue.
Exotics are getting more expensive too. All the price brackets are moving. A decently optioned 296 will run close to $450K. $300k won’t buy a supercar anymore, unless you mean an entry level Artura or MC20 or comparable Aston sports car and even then that’s no options stripper.
People are super in denial about this. Rich people are twice as rich as they were 5 years ago. If they were super boring and just invested in a tech index. Much much richer if they were actively involved.
Exotics are getting more expensive too. All the price brackets are moving. A decently optioned 296 will run close to $450K. $300k won’t buy a supercar anymore, unless you mean an entry level Artura or MC20 or comparable Aston sports car and even then that’s no options stripper.
Luxury goods inflation is real.
An exotic hasn't been in the 300k range since the Ferrari California T was introduced with a base MSRP of 200k, and a decently optioned one tipped 250k.
And unless you are 5 years old, no one considered the T an "exotic."
At that point, the price point on which exotics pivoted was easily north of 300k (see: 2017 Mclaren 720s).
The 2023 MY of a 720 started at $310k The 2018 was 288K. If the 720 isn’t an exotic, I don’t know what to say. A 2021 812 dipped down to $330. Basically the $300k price tier. And yes, msrp not real world walk away with options, taxes and yet another ****ing adm discussion
992 TT/S is the most potent car one can buy that's daily usable and not exotic looking. For those who want to the car to be somewhat low key (not exotic), Porsche has that market cornered and so can push the price up.
With my 992 TTS having recently hit a deer, if the insurance decides to total the car, I'm inclined to replace it with another 992 TT/S, or maybe a 991.2 TTS.
This is the main selling point of porsche in general with the 911s and again in general it has almost 0 competition.
Which of the daily exotics mentioned can be used everyday with similar comfort as the turbo s, sane performance and have the same reliability?
Porsche is in a very unique position with the 911 - this might change of course but I do not think it will change because of increasing prices. It will only change onoy if somebody release real competition with similar advantagea - it seems this is not easy to do.
05-25-2024, 09:30 PM
