News on 2025 992.2
05-20-2024, 05:36 PM
#46
Drifting
Even if the 992.2 is significantly better, the 992.1 TT/TTS will remain an absolutely excellent car... I hope that the 992.2 dominance it will enable some people to get into a great second-hand 992.1 for less money than now!
Just like, as amazing as the 992 TTS has been, a 991 TTS is still hell of a lot of car for much less money.
Just like, as amazing as the 992 TTS has been, a 991 TTS is still hell of a lot of car for much less money.
Dont keep your hopes too high, the last pure ICE turbo S… highly doubt the market is going anywhere.
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05-20-2024, 05:42 PM
#47
In the U.S. its a free market. Dealers can charge as much as they want. So they tend to charge as much as they think they can get. There are obviously some exceptions where certain people (the dealers best customers for example) might only pay MSRP and might get bumped to the front of the line. As to deposits, it varies by State. In California for example, consumer laws are such that once the car arrives, if the buyer doesn't like the car then the dealer has to refund 100% of the deposit no questions asked. Thus those dealers might not want to accept an order for a very weird color combo, since the buyer can walk away in the last minute and the dealer gets stuck with it. In other states, laws regarding deposits are different.
05-20-2024, 05:47 PM
#48
The hybrid part is used for the 2 x eturbos.
With a 10% price increase and a few options the turbo s is a 300k car whether $ or €.
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05-21-2024, 12:24 PM
#49
Instructor
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All the articles say it is not a plug-in hybrid.
05-21-2024, 12:47 PM
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05-21-2024, 02:47 PM
#51
I think it's more about the volume of cars produced than anything else. The only real sportscars that hold value or even increase in value are the limited quantity models, like the Carrera GT, 918, GT2RS, 911R, etc.
I'm pretty confident that in 6-8 years time, you'll be able to buy a 992 TTS with 10k-20k miles from 2020-2024 for a little around $100k, just like you can do that now with a 991 TTS.
Last edited by Pathy; 05-21-2024 at 02:49 PM.
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05-21-2024, 04:24 PM
#52
New info on the turbo (non s): normal production car, no hybrid assistance. RED and manual as before 
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05-21-2024, 11:14 PM
#53
Drifting
Something similar could be said about the 997 Turbos - last manual transmission Turbo. They followed a depreciation curve.
I think it's more about the volume of cars produced than anything else. The only real sportscars that hold value or even increase in value are the limited quantity models, like the Carrera GT, 918, GT2RS, 911R, etc.
I'm pretty confident that in 6-8 years time, you'll be able to buy a 992 TTS with 10k-20k miles from 2020-2024 for a little around $100k, just like you can do that now with a 991 TTS.
I think it's more about the volume of cars produced than anything else. The only real sportscars that hold value or even increase in value are the limited quantity models, like the Carrera GT, 918, GT2RS, 911R, etc.
I'm pretty confident that in 6-8 years time, you'll be able to buy a 992 TTS with 10k-20k miles from 2020-2024 for a little around $100k, just like you can do that now with a 991 TTS.
You should work harder to make more money instead of wishing cars will sink in value so you can afford one
997 is a turd compared to the 992.1. Last manual, no one cares, last ICE, people care.
Im not buying Hybrid, lots aren’t.
look at Samuel from Porsche Hollywoods poll about who’s buying or excited for hybrid Porsches… not a lot!
sure they will depreciate but I am not holding my breathe for a 100k 992.1…
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05-22-2024, 12:28 AM
#54
05-22-2024, 08:52 AM
#55
You are dreaming if you think you can pick up a 6 year old 992 TTS for $100K. They’ll probably be $180-$200K when a new will cost $300K.
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05-22-2024, 01:34 PM
#56
Burning Brakes
As the saying goes, everyone has an opinion and an a** hole. Although the 911 TTS/TT is the top dog, it’s not as special as a GT model. It’s “top dog” due to straight line performance with very good handling. When the “hybrid” TTS hits the market, it will be the new top dog and buyers will be just as interested in it as in the past. There will always be people stuck in the past and that’s okay. Heck, I’m stuck in the 80s with hair bands !
Think of when Porsche ditched the NA motor and switched to the 3.0TT. Remember all the negative comments? The 992.2 TTS is not a plug in and appears to be similar in technology as the Corvette E-Ray.
In regards to 992/992.1 TTS depreciation, it’s anyone’s guess. I personally don’t think it will hold value as some may think. It’s not like Porsche is terminating the 911 TTS production, right?! At the end of the day, who really cares. Most of us don’t buy $300k+ modern/new cars as investments. You can’t take it with you, so why not just enjoy the ride!
Although the 911 TTS/TT is the top dog, it’s not as special as a GT model. It’s “top dog” due to straight line performance with very good handling. When the “hybrid” TTS hits the market, it will be the new top dog and buyers will be just as interested in it as in the past. There will always be people stuck in the past and that’s okay. Heck, I’m stuck in the 80s with hair bands !Think of when Porsche ditched the NA motor and switched to the 3.0TT. Remember all the negative comments? The 992.2 TTS is not a plug in and appears to be similar in technology as the Corvette E-Ray.In regards to 992/992.1 TTS depreciation, it’s anyone’s guess. I personally don’t think it will hold value as some may think. It’s not like Porsche is terminating the 911 TTS production, right?! At the end of the day, who really cares. Most of us don’t buy $300k+ modern/new cars as investments. You can’t take it with you, so why not just enjoy the ride!
Last edited by luv2sleep; 05-22-2024 at 03:58 PM.
05-22-2024, 01:43 PM
#57
So, I'm thinking that in 2029/2030 you should start seeing 992.1 TTS from 2020/2021 with similar specs, condition, and mileage trading in that range.
I mean, why not? 991.1 TTS was the same level of car in 2014 that a 992.1 TTS was in 2021.
05-22-2024, 01:46 PM
#58
You should work harder to make more money instead of wishing cars will sink in value so you can afford one
997 is a turd compared to the 992.1. Last manual, no one cares, last ICE, people care.
Im not buying Hybrid, lots aren’t.
look at Samuel from Porsche Hollywoods poll about who’s buying or excited for hybrid Porsches… not a lot!
sure they will depreciate but I am not holding my breathe for a 100k 992.1…
997 is a turd compared to the 992.1. Last manual, no one cares, last ICE, people care.
Im not buying Hybrid, lots aren’t.
look at Samuel from Porsche Hollywoods poll about who’s buying or excited for hybrid Porsches… not a lot!
sure they will depreciate but I am not holding my breathe for a 100k 992.1…
My daily driver right now is a hail-damaged MB C300 I bought at a steep discount , despite being practically brand new. Replaced the hood and the rear trunk and you can barely tell, and I plan on keeping it beyond 200k miles. It has over 100k on it already (after 10 years of ownership).
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05-22-2024, 02:53 PM
#59
@Pathy you fudged your numbers a bit. Originally you said 6-8 years from now a 992TTS for 100k.
Using your numbers:
”Well, right now you can get a 991.1 TTS from 2014/2015 with ~20k-30k miles for ~100k-120k.”
This implies a 35%-46% depreciation on a 991 TTS over 10 years (msrp 185k).
Using your same depreciation numbers gives an expected price range for a 2024 TTS at about $125,000-$150,000 in year 2034
Using your numbers:
”Well, right now you can get a 991.1 TTS from 2014/2015 with ~20k-30k miles for ~100k-120k.”
This implies a 35%-46% depreciation on a 991 TTS over 10 years (msrp 185k).
Using your same depreciation numbers gives an expected price range for a 2024 TTS at about $125,000-$150,000 in year 2034
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05-22-2024, 05:27 PM
#60
@Pathy you fudged your numbers a bit. Originally you said 6-8 years from now a 992TTS for 100k.
Using your numbers:
”Well, right now you can get a 991.1 TTS from 2014/2015 with ~20k-30k miles for ~100k-120k.”
This implies a 35%-46% depreciation on a 991 TTS over 10 years (msrp 185k).
Using your same depreciation numbers gives an expected price range for a 2024 TTS at about $125,000-$150,000 in year 2034
Using your numbers:
”Well, right now you can get a 991.1 TTS from 2014/2015 with ~20k-30k miles for ~100k-120k.”
This implies a 35%-46% depreciation on a 991 TTS over 10 years (msrp 185k).
Using your same depreciation numbers gives an expected price range for a 2024 TTS at about $125,000-$150,000 in year 2034
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