992 Turbo & Turbo S OBD Flashing
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Big Swole (09-13-2021)
09-13-2021, 04:50 PM
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I am using the M-engineering platform.
I started with high-flow cats and a tune (Stage 1).
I'm currently running a stage 4 tune / setup (exhaust, upgraded turbos, intercoolers & methanol).
This is a comparison video of the stock 992 TTS vs the Stage1 & Stage 4 992 TTS up to 150 mph. DA about 7K, temp in the 60-70's, same location & all on 91 octane.
https://youtu.be/5RJYXk4QQb8
Here's a video of a half mile run. Looking at trap speed it's making some solid power. My understanding is that we're limited at this point by the transmission (specifically clutch pressure). There's still a lot of room in this car to turn things up once that's sorted. Fyi- the clink noise in the beginning of the video is just my keys.
https://youtu.be/fhdrG-zvRrQ
I think this is a solid tuning platform (certainly in its early stages though). I've been working with Sam & Mitch- solid dudes.
I started with high-flow cats and a tune (Stage 1).
I'm currently running a stage 4 tune / setup (exhaust, upgraded turbos, intercoolers & methanol).
This is a comparison video of the stock 992 TTS vs the Stage1 & Stage 4 992 TTS up to 150 mph. DA about 7K, temp in the 60-70's, same location & all on 91 octane.
https://youtu.be/5RJYXk4QQb8
Here's a video of a half mile run. Looking at trap speed it's making some solid power. My understanding is that we're limited at this point by the transmission (specifically clutch pressure). There's still a lot of room in this car to turn things up once that's sorted. Fyi- the clink noise in the beginning of the video is just my keys.
https://youtu.be/fhdrG-zvRrQ
I think this is a solid tuning platform (certainly in its early stages though). I've been working with Sam & Mitch- solid dudes.
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NigelPlays (09-15-2021)
09-16-2021, 02:34 PM
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We had some TT and TTs on the dyno and i wanted to share actual difference between them. Turbo wheels sizes are actually different. Conditions are a bit different too, so i added
to the image. Numbers are from Dynojet dyno.
09-16-2021, 02:50 PM
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09-16-2021, 04:32 PM
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Seems consistent that its WHP...I think mustang dynos give the "heartbreak" measurements, which are usually lower than expected.
Again...so many variables, but higher than Porsche advertised CHP readings (WHP x 1.15) would be consistent with the stock performance of this platform.
Again...so many variables, but higher than Porsche advertised CHP readings (WHP x 1.15) would be consistent with the stock performance of this platform.
09-16-2021, 04:37 PM
#51
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Seems consistent that its WHP...I think mustang dynos give the "heartbreak" measurements, which are usually lower than expected.
Again...so many variables, but higher than Porsche advertised CHP readings (WHP x 1.15) would be consistent with the stock performance of this platform.
Again...so many variables, but higher than Porsche advertised CHP readings (WHP x 1.15) would be consistent with the stock performance of this platform.
since the poster clearly stated the two tests were of stock configuration, what “variables” are you referring to?
Last edited by peterdouglas; 09-16-2021 at 04:49 PM.
09-16-2021, 11:01 PM
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Hello,
Question, ordered full exhaust from fab speed, thinking about headers also… are these parameters factored into the tune?
In other words is is required or better to get all the other after market upgrades before I place an order?
Is each tune specific to what other upgrades have been done?
Just trying to get clarity.
Question, ordered full exhaust from fab speed, thinking about headers also… are these parameters factored into the tune?
In other words is is required or better to get all the other after market upgrades before I place an order?
Is each tune specific to what other upgrades have been done?
Just trying to get clarity.
09-17-2021, 01:28 AM
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However due to some many variables...cant accurately compare dyno results unless same car, on same dyno, same day, same conditions, same technician...
09-17-2021, 04:12 AM
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Sure it is WHP reading from DynoJet 424xLC2.
sorry to mislead you not telling this in advance.
all the modern Porsches in our region have more then advertised, for sure. as well as BMW's and many others.
we dyno'ed more then 10 992 TTs, several TT and Carreras - they have same numbers in different days.
But - top air duct is extremely needed on dyno with 992 top mounted ICs
@JuanilloTurboS
Good headers will affect high rev numbers a lot, so tune it after installing them. it makes sence.
Sure it is WHP reading from DynoJet 424xLC2.
sorry to mislead you not telling this in advance.
If these are WHP, then these cars are putting out more than advertised.
However due to some many variables...cant accurately compare dyno results unless same car, on same dyno, same day, same conditions, same technician...
However due to some many variables...cant accurately compare dyno results unless same car, on same dyno, same day, same conditions, same technician...
we dyno'ed more then 10 992 TTs, several TT and Carreras - they have same numbers in different days.
But - top air duct is extremely needed on dyno with 992 top mounted ICs
@JuanilloTurboS
Question, ordered full exhaust from fab speed, thinking about headers also… are these parameters factored into the tune?
In other words is is required or better to get all the other after market upgrades before I place an order?
Is each tune specific to what other upgrades have been done?
Just trying to get clarity.
In other words is is required or better to get all the other after market upgrades before I place an order?
Is each tune specific to what other upgrades have been done?
Just trying to get clarity.
Last edited by LEVELperformance; 09-17-2021 at 04:17 AM.
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JuanilloTurboS (09-17-2021)
09-17-2021, 04:23 AM
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I understood it was stock. Just make a reference point to Porsche advertised numbers of 572/640 CHP. If these are WHP, then these cars are putting out more than advertised.
However due to some many variables...cant accurately compare dyno results unless same car, on same dyno, same day, same conditions, same technician...
However due to some many variables...cant accurately compare dyno results unless same car, on same dyno, same day, same conditions, same technician...
in other words, why (if at all) do you think the data presented for the two cars is significantly non-comparable, beyond what was disclosed?
and - if so - what is the conclusion you would draw?
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09-17-2021, 11:57 AM
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Hello,
Question, ordered full exhaust from fab speed, thinking about headers also… are these parameters factored into the tune?
In other words is is required or better to get all the other after market upgrades before I place an order?
Is each tune specific to what other upgrades have been done?
Just trying to get clarity.
Question, ordered full exhaust from fab speed, thinking about headers also… are these parameters factored into the tune?
In other words is is required or better to get all the other after market upgrades before I place an order?
Is each tune specific to what other upgrades have been done?
Just trying to get clarity.
M-Tuner can also datalog everything going on in the engine, so we can check out exactly how the car is performing and make changes if need be.
-Charles@M
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09-17-2021, 12:56 PM
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Excellent upgrades, when you purchase M-Tuner, let us know your mod list and octane and we'll make sure you have a correctly configured map based on those. We recommend getting all of your upgrades installed and then coming to us for the tune as the final step to tie it all together.
M-Tuner can also datalog everything going on in the engine, so we can check out exactly how the car is performing and make changes if need be.
-Charles@M
M-Tuner can also datalog everything going on in the engine, so we can check out exactly how the car is performing and make changes if need be.
-Charles@M
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ER911S (09-17-2021)
09-17-2021, 01:38 PM
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09-17-2021, 05:13 PM
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Not clear to me what variables you are referring to - the poster stated that the data reflects two *different* cars (tt and tts) and shows pressure/temperature/humidity information. What reason is there to believe that if the data is from different days that would make a meaningful difference(other things being equal), different dynos or different operators?
in other words, why (if at all) do you think the data presented for the two cars is significantly non-comparable, beyond what was disclosed?
and - if so - what is the conclusion you would draw?
in other words, why (if at all) do you think the data presented for the two cars is significantly non-comparable, beyond what was disclosed?
and - if so - what is the conclusion you would draw?
I cast no doubt on the TT and TTS numbers...just saying im impressed if this is what is going to the wheels, which is way more than what Porsche claims. Always wanted a 600hp+ car
Last edited by Pad Bender; 09-17-2021 at 05:20 PM.
09-17-2021, 05:43 PM
#60
Burning Brakes
was just trying to clarify whether the mentioned “variables” was a real issue or not - happy to hear that it was not!
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