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Old 04-26-2024, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DodoBrd
A 2+2 in a GT car? That would be quite surprising. I am not sure how much weight that would add but it certainly seems to go against the ethos of a GT car. Maybe they will just call it something else.

I am eagerly waiting to see what the 992.2 GT3 turns out to be. If they keep it basically the same as today and give it little S/T / RS parts, the hybrid normal 911s will be faster. If they hybridize the GT3, it will lose some of it's desirability (IMO) because PDK only, and you know... hybrid.
We have a GT car without a wing. We have a GT car without RWS (which AP is known on record to say a GT3 without RAS feels like a dinasour). So why not a GT car without seats? Its all about marketing.
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Originally Posted by JJOcean
I deferred my 992.1 GT3 allocation (PTS not available) for a 992.2 slot. Sticking with my 992.1 TT for now. My dealer pretty much told me the same thing ... first 992.2 GT3 allocations would show up late 24 with the first delivers being May/June 25. We'll see.
This is good to know.. more info than I have been told. I'm in the exact same boat... PTS & Euro delivery was a must, and along came my slot last month and it was non-PTS.

They have guaranteed me the first available 992.2 slot with PTS and Euro, but it's a bit of a gamble not knowing any of the changes, timelines, price increases, etc.
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Originally Posted by SRM11
This is good to know.. more info than I have been told. I'm in the exact same boat... PTS & Euro delivery was a must, and along came my slot last month and it was non-PTS.

They have guaranteed me the first available 992.2 slot with PTS and Euro, but it's a bit of a gamble not knowing any of the changes, timelines, price increases, etc.
That's incorrect information from the guy you quoted. There will not be 992.2 GT3 allocations late this year, arriving next year. The base 992.2 911 has not even been announced, GT3 comes at least a year after a new gen makes it's debut. MY26 at the absolute earliest for 992.2 GT3, could even be MY27 with all the delays and the 992.1 3RS extending into MY25

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Originally Posted by GT3NA
So when is the right estimate of the reveal date and production date?

If we look at 991.2 and 992.1, the data says as follows:

991.1
  • Carrera revealed in September 2015 and deliveries from March 2016.
  • GT3 revealed in March 2017 and deliveries from August/September 2017?

992
  • Carrera revealed in November 2018 and deliveries from March 2019
  • GT3 revealed in February 2021 and deliveries from May 2021

So for the 992.2 my estimate would be:
  • Carrera reveal in July 2024 and deliveries from December 2024.
  • GT3 reveal in December 2025 and deliveries from May 2026?

That seems very far out. Anyone want to add light to this? I also may be wrong with some data.

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Old 05-06-2024, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by PTS
That's incorrect information from the guy you quoted. There will not be 992.2 GT3 allocations late this year, arriving next year. The base 992.2 911 has not even been announced, GT3 comes at least a year after a new gen makes it's debut. MY26 at the absolute earliest for 992.2 GT3, could even be MY27 with all the delays and the 992.1 3RS extending into MY25

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You're probably right, but who really knows. There's already test track videos of the .2 gt3, so can't see them waiting 2-3 more years to release when there's so much pent up demand (and potential revenue for Porsche).

991.1 was 2014-2016, with the RS in 2016
991.2 was 2018-2019, with the RS also in 2018 and 2019

992.1 is 2022-2024, with the RS in 2023
Maybe MY25 won't happen, but I could see MY26 GT3s showing up by fall 2025.

Either way, I'm happy to wait 1-2 years for my PTS slot, if it's sooner then great, if not then oh well


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Old 05-13-2024, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by PTS
That's incorrect information from the guy you quoted. There will not be 992.2 GT3 allocations late this year, arriving next year. The base 992.2 911 has not even been announced, GT3 comes at least a year after a new gen makes it's debut. MY26 at the absolute earliest for 992.2 GT3, could even be MY27 with all the delays and the 992.1 3RS extending into MY25

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Sorry but the carrerra will be presented on May 28th and consequently the GT3 will be presented in September.
All these predictions are wrong.
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Originally Posted by Gr455
Sorry but the carrerra will be presented on May 28th and consequently the GT3 will be presented in September.
All these predictions are wrong.
Have you paid attention to the order in which Porsche does things with the 911? The Turbo comes after the Carrera and before the GT3.
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Originally Posted by JCviggen
Have you paid attention to the order in which Porsche does things with the 911? The Turbo comes after the Carrera and before the GT3.
Order doesn't matter.
Maybe the first delivers of the GT3 will be delayed but not longer than spring 2025 not 2026.
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Originally Posted by Gr455
Order doesn't matter.
Maybe the first delivers of the GT3 will be delayed but not longer than spring 2025 not 2026.
Of course it matters, why would they launch all versions of 992.2 within a couple of months? Makes no sense.

991.1 launch date Sept 2011
Turbo late 2012
GT3 early 2013

991.2 launch date Sept 2015
Turbo very late 2015
GT3 early 2017

992 launch date Nov 2018
Turbo March 2020 (covid)
GT3 Aug 2020

You'd need some convincing evidence to show that Porsche is going from base model to GT3 in a couple of months when it has been a year+ so far.

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Old 05-13-2024, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Gr455
Sorry but the carrerra will be presented on May 28th and consequently the GT3 will be presented in September.
All these predictions are wrong.
That has never happened in their history. What is your source then? Unless you work for PAG, no chance.
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Originally Posted by PTS
That has never happened in their history..
New emissions,listed company paradigm - do not rule anything out. Also helps Porsche sell high value GT cars without a significant gap from the last one and the other stuff that gets sold as bait.
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Originally Posted by Gr455
Order doesn't matter.
Maybe the first delivers of the GT3 will be delayed but not longer than spring 2025 not 2026.
This time they are starting with GTS reveal on 5/28 which normally comes after Carrera. So they can change the order if they want.
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Originally Posted by Gr455
Order doesn't matter.
Maybe the first delivers of the GT3 will be delayed but not longer than spring 2025 not 2026.
Your source? If you say your SA I may suggest you ask your cleaning lady instead - she will have better info.
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Based on the last info I actually saw the GT3 was launching in January 2025 along with the carrera. This might move a couple of months but is about right. Not sure if they will launch the turbos in the 6-8 months gap between the base/gts and s/gt3 launch.

Just a hint: The turbo (non s) will have a manual option and might not have the hybrid tech.
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Old 05-13-2024, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by av12345
Your source? If you say your SA I may suggest you ask your cleaning lady instead - she will have better info.
Cleaning lady or not his info is correct. I have mentioned about the 541bhp gts last september/october and everybody thought it was misinformation. Now we have a photo of it at the ring from last september.

Read the other 992.2 discussions. A company that sell 50k cars per year of average price close to 200k must do a serious production schedule. It should also do serious monthly allocations with the customers i.e the dealers.

In July the first 992.2 (base/gts) are being produced and will be sent to the dealers. Don’t you think the dealers know about this? Or do you think they will get the info on the 28th and start ordering cars in June?

This is a major operation and everything is handled many many months in advance.
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Originally Posted by silversurfer6
Cleaning lady or not his info is correct. I have mentioned about the 541bhp gts last september/october and everybody thought it was misinformation. Now we have a photo of it at the ring from last september.

Read the other 992.2 discussions. A company that sell 50k cars per year of average price close to 200k must do a serious production schedule. It should also do serious monthly allocations with the customers i.e the dealers.

In July the first 992.2 (base/gts) are being produced and will be sent to the dealers. Don’t you think the dealers know about this? Or do you think they will get the info on the 28th and start ordering cars in June?

This is a major operation and everything is handled many many months in advance.
What is your source? If it’s credible then obviously everyone is happy to get the info. I highly doubt they start a new production line in July though before the August break - most of the German manufacturers switch over in September so this already is a bit suspect. Is it possible? Sure. Also - if they are producing cars in July wouldn’t allocations have dropped by now? Normally they are out 3 months in advance? Again - glad to have more info but you should be clear about your source especially when it’s counter to the “standard” procedure we have seen for years.


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