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Old 05-31-2023, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PTS
I hope so. I've heard the June 8 reveal is the first prototype for the 918 successor. Doesn't mean it cannot be both the ST and the newest hypercar
Here's another point of reference...

Pretty soon, they will be announcing the 992.2 gen carreras and such, so they need to announce and produce the ST in somewhat short order (don't think they want too much overlap between a .1 model and .2).

The 911R was announced late February 2016 (the last MY for 991.1 cars). We are already WAY past that schedule with the 992.1 cars (2023 should be last MY)... it's already June!

I do think they will announce the ST in June meaning deliveries will mostly be Q4 2023/Q1 2024. I got my GT3 allocation June 2022 and my car (and many others) were delivered in Q4 2022 for reference.
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Old 05-31-2023, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by WenigerAberBeser
Here's another point of reference...

Pretty soon, they will be announcing the 992.2 gen carreras and such, so they need to announce and produce the ST in somewhat short order (don't think they want too much overlap between a .1 model and .2).

The 911R was announced late February 2016 (the last MY for 991.1 cars). We are already WAY past that schedule with the 992.1 cars (2023 should be last MY)... it's already June!

I do think they will announce the ST in June meaning deliveries will mostly be Q4 2023/Q1 2024. I got my GT3 allocation June 2022 and my car (and many others) were delivered in Q4 2022 for reference.
They are making 2024 GT3/RS cars as 992.1s as well. 2023 is not the last MY of the .1
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Old 05-31-2023, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PTS
They are making 2024 GT3/RS cars as 992.1s as well. 2023 is not the last MY of the .1
5 years of a .1, way to go Porsche
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Old 05-31-2023, 05:00 PM
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My expectation is the ST, my hope is the 918 successor
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Old 06-01-2023, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperDarius
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and someone is able to understand if is based on a wide (Turbo/RS/SC) body or a narrow(GT3) one?
I am also curious regarding the width, 911R was based on gt3 narrower body as compared to the gt3rs. Will the ST follow this pattern? Additionally, when Boris Apenbrink was interviewed by PCA regarding the Sport Classic, he said that only 1500 sets of the wider stamping without the turbo inlet were made, and that’s all that they could handle. Does this mean that the ST will not be based on the wider bodied cars (turbo, SC, RS)? Which imo, doesn’t make sense. If you look at the history behind the early ST, it had a larger displacement and a wider track. Perhaps they will accomplish the wider track with the front end only while keeping the rear dimensions in line with the gt3? 🤷🏻‍♂️ still think it needs a 4.2 to follow the historical name…
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Old 06-01-2023, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by JAM2
I am also curious regarding the width, 911R was based on gt3 narrower body as compared to the gt3rs. Will the ST follow this pattern? Additionally, when Boris Apenbrink was interviewed by PCA regarding the Sport Classic, he said that only 1500 sets of the wider stamping without the turbo inlet were made, and that’s all that they could handle. Does this mean that the ST will not be based on the wider bodied cars (turbo, SC, RS)? Which imo, doesn’t make sense. If you look at the history behind the early ST, it had a larger displacement and a wider track. Perhaps they will accomplish the wider track with the front end only while keeping the rear dimensions in line with the gt3? 🤷🏻‍♂️ still think it needs a 4.2 to follow the historical name…
I’d much prefer the ST to drop 150lbs over the GT3 than any significant power bump. Wider track would be cool, but the bigger tires would mean more weight
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Old 06-01-2023, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by JAM2
I am also curious regarding the width, 911R was based on gt3 narrower body as compared to the gt3rs. Will the ST follow this pattern? Additionally, when Boris Apenbrink was interviewed by PCA regarding the Sport Classic, he said that only 1500 sets of the wider stamping without the turbo inlet were made, and that’s all that they could handle. Does this mean that the ST will not be based on the wider bodied cars (turbo, SC, RS)? Which imo, doesn’t make sense. If you look at the history behind the early ST, it had a larger displacement and a wider track. Perhaps they will accomplish the wider track with the front end only while keeping the rear dimensions in line with the gt3? 🤷🏻‍♂️ still think it needs a 4.2 to follow the historical name…
From my latest research seems that the St will be based on a slim body,at least on the rear...in front i don't know..but at the rear "unfortunately" for my taste, seems not wide.

if you look specially at the sideskirts you will see the difference in the rear part respect to the one of the Turbo/SC and RS(that are wiiiider than the one of the mules of the ST)

The only thing that let me hopes again are the rims....if the ST will have the RS wheels...how can they fit on a slim body? i don't know the offset of the standard GT3 compared to RS ones,but i think are not the same.

Sincerely i wait for something more "exclusive",instead is not so easy to see the difference from a standard touring(not that i don't like a Touring...but only for tell that at the start seems the St was based on a RS...instead seems based on a GT3)
Old 06-01-2023, 11:29 AM
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None of the ST mules seem to have the RS wide body
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Old 06-01-2023, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by PTS
None of the ST mules seem to have the RS wide body
That's disappointing. The original early '70s 911 S/T was all about the wider rear fenders and mismatched wheels with the larger minilites in back and fuchs up front. Modern "S/T" without those is really a 911R.2, which isn't bad, but why call it an S/T?
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Originally Posted by dave2020
That's disappointing. The original early '70s 911 S/T was all about the wider rear fenders and mismatched wheels with the larger minilites in back and fuchs up front. Modern "S/T" without those is really a 911R.2, which isn't bad, but why call it an S/T?
It's like a Carrera T but with more (S)peed
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Originally Posted by Moiz Mian
It's like a Carrera T but with more (S)peed
It's much more than that with the GT bits underneath, but not much more than a GT3 Touring... likely lighter and "prettier" but missed opportunity without the wider track.
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Old 06-01-2023, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by J9277655
My expectation is the ST, my hope is the 918 successor
The 918 successor would need to be priced >$1m which the ST won't be.
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Originally Posted by SuperDarius
From my latest research seems that the St will be based on a slim body,at least on the rear...in front i don't know..but at the rear "unfortunately" for my taste, seems not wide.

if you look specially at the sideskirts you will see the difference in the rear part respect to the one of the Turbo/SC and RS(that are wiiiider than the one of the mules of the ST)

The only thing that let me hopes again are the rims....if the ST will have the RS wheels...how can they fit on a slim body? i don't know the offset of the standard GT3 compared to RS ones,but i think are not the same.

Sincerely i wait for something more "exclusive",instead is not so easy to see the difference from a standard touring(not that i don't like a Touring...but only for tell that at the start seems the St was based on a RS...instead seems based on a GT3)
me2
I like WIDE rear on cars and other pretty things
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Old 06-01-2023, 08:42 PM
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It will have components of the Weissach package as standard equipment
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Old 06-01-2023, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxLTV
Does the rear have a clamshell spoiler like Touring? I hope it does not.
lol
you and I both don't like that little wear flap wing
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