Larson E. Rapp

Nothing in the world wrong with that, for those who actually drive their cars.

Diablo Dude

Yup.

And guys that don't even own GT cars but "talk" as if they do.
They couldn't post a pic of their own car here if their life depended on it.
And some of these guys were the one's that were demanding people post their odometer readings.
But hey . . . it's the internet.

JAB12

I'll disagree there, but hey, that's why we come here to this forum to agree to disagree. ACC, LKA, 360 view, and LCA re click offs on all of my new configurations. Waste of money IMHO. Rather put that towards paint to sample or brakes or more leather, but that's the beauty of these cars, you can spec them however you want.

JAB12

@Diablo Dude That and reading the posts of those that are still waiting for them to come down to msrp or less (nevermind its been 3.5 years and almost the end of the dot 1 run) has been the most amusing part of lurking in here as a non owner first, and later as a 2x owner. It's been entertaining to say the least and has become a bit therapeutic as it manifests off line as well in the local Pcar gatherings when the same folks are trying to justify why they don't own GT cars, yet don't spare the chance to advertise they can afford them while drooling over one of mine at the same time. It's a weird dynamic to read it in here, even weirder to actually witness it in person. Had a little bit of that 2 weeks ago at DRT. I equated it to the real life version of this thread. Regretfully I did not have Popcorn as it was too early in the morning.

7382929296

Nothing wrong with a broker service, but keep it professional like a concierge service. Spamming every single forum, every post, multiple times a day is annoying especially at market price. Now if you say I have a special connection and instead of usual 100k, I can get it for 90k great, let’s talk, but otherwise it’s just spam.

Manifold

Not a big deal if someone waited for prices to come down a lot and they didn't (yet). It's just a car.

I similarly refused to pay ADM to get allocations, and waited to get MSRP allocations for the GT3 and 4RS from my dealer (didn't talk with any other dealers), with no assurance that I'd get either allocation. I was fortunate to get both of them, but would have been ok with not getting either of them. They're just cars.

Randy M

I wouldn't have bought my car if I didn't get it for msrp. It would have ruined the experience, for me.

usctrojanGT3

Exactly, there are just cars. Not being able to buy a GT3 at a price that you wanted to get is not the end of the world, it's not a necessity...it's a toy. No one needs a GT3 and having one doesn't improve your life. Would I buy a GT3RS at MSRP? Sure, even if the market price is around MSRP. At $100k over? Hell no, rather buy a Ferrari in the $400s.

Matt(inMA)

This is exactly why I didn't get a GT3. I couldn't look at it knowing I paid over MSRP. It's disappointing but it's just a car. It's also why changed brands.

usctrojanGT3

If more people were like you then there wouldn't be ADMs but alas we live in a YOLO gotta have it now world.

PTS

Or we live in a world where some auto enthusiasts, who don't have a deep/lengthy relationship with a dealer, would rather have a GT3 @ ~$50k over MSRP than a different car for MSRP, and there wouldn't be anything wrong with that.

usctrojanGT3

No doubt that there are car enthusiasts who want the car bad enough to pay over MSRP but Porsche has also brought in a considerable amount of the social media IG/YT buyer crowd with that YOLO mentality which shifted the demand curve higher resulting in higher prices then there would be otherwise. The 918 VIP program didn't help either as many of those folks end up flipping their GT cars either before their 1 year required mark and why they got booted or after the 1 year mark to stay in the program. I'm just of the mindset that the more cars get that in the hands of real enthusiasts the better because these cars are a great to drive and track, values be damned.

PTS

Marketing certainly plays a role but I think the cat is just finally out of the bag about how good these cars really are...Porsche used to be more of a if you know you know brand

usctrojanGT3

Yeah, can't get that cat back into the bag at this point so now we can only hope that Porsche keeps increasing the numbers of GT and 911 cars that they build which they are doing but obviously not quite enough. I'm conflicted if I'll continue to buy GT cars if they go hybrid but will most likely stop buying once they go EV.

Manifold

I think a big part of the demand is from people who expect that they can own these cars with little or no depreciation. The more people who believe that, the more it’s true - a self-fulfilling prophecy.

But people who are very concerned about depreciation also tend to not drive their cars much during their ownership stint, which means that there will be more low-miles used cars on the market (more supply), which means Porsche will build less new cars.