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You have made quite a few posts trying to justify why you DIDN'T buy a GT3 but settled on a used TTS instead. Just say you bought another car even though you really wanted a GT3 and don’t try to justify how your TTS is so much better of a road and track car than a GT3. Isn’t that the same thing you just said?
GT3 isn’t worth a big ADM to me, and not being able to get one at MSRP made me explore options. I haven’t tracked the TTS or 992 GT3, so can’t really compare them, but track reviews make me think I’ll be happy with the TTS.
For a track car at MSRP, I’d go with the GT3 simply because it’s a lot less expensive. But since I have a 991.1 GT3, may just keep that and not replace it with the 992 GT3 (I instructed in one, and from the right seat it felt about the same as the 991.1, but clearly faster).
So much for the "perma-bears" here constantly yapping about a Recession.
The April Unemployment Report this morning showed the economy added 253,000 nonfarm payroll jobs.
The unemployment rate dropped to 3.4%
The lowest level since May 1969.
Hourly earnings rose 0.5% month on month.
Hourly earnings rose 4.4% year on year.
I cant imagine how much $$$ the perma-bears have lost watching their short positions in the market repeatedly blow up on days like today.
Being a broken clock is not a talent.
It's sheer stupidity.
Unfortunately that gives the Fed a green light to hike again next meeting. It's best that things cool off a bit more otherwise the Fed will keep bumping rates up by 1/4% and the more they do that the more they'll break something. Looks like inflation is sticky after all.
The conversation here is unbelievably dumb. Guys, I know it is shocking, but prices for cars generally trend lower over time. It shouldn't be a surprise that a now 2 year old car is worth less than it was 6 or 12 months ago. You can wait for it to be even cheaper, but then you are buying a 3,4,5 year old car. Great. I can do that today and go out and buy a cheaper 991.2. Or I can wait for ADMs to come down and try to buy a 992.2 in 2 years, but the MSRP has gone up $30k. All the while I am missing out on driving the car I actually want. By the way, if the bears are right, you will be able to buy at MSRP in a couple of years, BUT THEN the prices will be 25% lower than that 2 years on. Nobody is going to win here, we are all getting screwed somehow.
In full disclosure - I bought a Touring with ADM this past December. Love the car and don't give a f about what I paid - just like I don't monitor what my other cars are worth on a daily/monthly basis.
Why did I not wait for a used one at a lower price? I wanted a black exterior (or at least not too flashy), a Touring, manual, and a less flashy interior. Just for giggles, there are 118 GT3s listed on autotrader right now. 15 are black. 3 are Tourings. one has a red interior (no), one is PDK (no), and one looks pretty nice. So out of 118, there is one option for me right now. That's why
You wanted the car bad enough and he found value in the car even with a ADM so you bought it but not all of us may have the same "want" to pay an ADM for a car especially when someone has multiple fun cars already. For example, I'm not willing to pay any kind of ADM for a GT3RS but I would have been willing to pay a moderate ADM for a GT4RS if I didn't have my relationship with my dealer because the want factor was much higher for the GT4RS versus the GT3RS. I'm also looking to pick up a driven CGT for $1m or less but prices aren't quite there yet. And no I'm not missing out on driving the CGT because I already have 4 cars so it's a simple equation for me....< $1m and I'm a buyer and over that I'm not a buyer.
You wanted the car bad enough and he found value in the car even with a ADM so you bought it but not all of us may have the same "want" to pay an ADM for a car especially when someone has multiple fun cars already. For example, I'm not willing to pay any kind of ADM for a GT3RS but I would have been willing to pay a moderate ADM for a GT4RS if I didn't have my relationship with my dealer because the want factor was much higher for the GT4RS versus the GT3RS. I'm also looking to pick up a driven CGT for $1m or less but prices aren't quite there yet. And no I'm not missing out on driving the CGT because I already have 4 cars so it's a simple equation for me....< $1m and I'm a buyer and over that I'm not a buyer.
Jeebus, you must be moving a lot of real estate. If you can buy a $1 million car in addition to other cars, maybe just put the money in sound investments and plan to retire early?
Jeebus, you must be moving a lot of real estate. If you can buy a $1 million car in addition to other cars, maybe just put the money in sound investments and plan to retire early?
The problem is that I have a Porsche addiction so I can't help myself on spoiling myself with them so I gotta keep hustling. I'd get bored if I retired, I LOVE real estate and helping my clients, like today I helped one of my clients get her dream starter home which is a great feeling. I've been doing real estate for almost 17 years and worked my way up to being the #2 realtor in my city and in the top 50 in the county, this is with no junior agents...just me, myself, and I. I've never spent money on advertising myself either and don't even have a website. The power of relationships with repeat and referral business in full effect.
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Yes, this I completeky agree with. We all have different wants and circumstances. If somebody wants to pay an ADM, have at it, and if they choose to wait and see, that's fine too.
You wanted the car bad enough and he found value in the car even with a ADM so you bought it but not all of us may have the same "want" to pay an ADM for a car especially when someone has multiple fun cars already. For example, I'm not willing to pay any kind of ADM for a GT3RS but I would have been willing to pay a moderate ADM for a GT4RS if I didn't have my relationship with my dealer because the want factor was much higher for the GT4RS versus the GT3RS. I'm also looking to pick up a driven CGT for $1m or less but prices aren't quite there yet. And no I'm not missing out on driving the CGT because I already have 4 cars so it's a simple equation for me....< $1m and I'm a buyer and over that I'm not a buyer.
USC - curious if you wouldn't mind talking a little more about your thoughts on the GT4 RS. With ~7k being made, but being potentially the last non-EV Cayman, what did/do you think a fair ADM is? Also, the car has a GT3 engine so fine to ask in this forum since he mentioned it, right??
Got a text from a Cali dealer I work with. GT3 wing and GT3 Touring allocations, 2024 model, July production. Asking 65k for wing and 75k for touring. I can likely get them to help me out a little bit on the premiums.
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The problem is that I have a Porsche addiction so I can't help myself on spoiling myself with them so I gotta keep hustling. I'd get bored if I retired, I LOVE real estate and helping my clients, like today I helped one of my clients get her dream starter home which is a great feeling. I've been doing real estate for almost 17 years and worked my way up to being the #2 realtor in my city and in the top 50 in the county, this is with no junior agents...just me, myself, and I. I've never spent money on advertising myself either and don't even have a website. The power of relationships with repeat and referral business in full effect.
With your budget and car addiction, maybe try some actual exotics. Porsche is a poor-man's budget exotic.
05-05-2023, 02:35 PM
