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Old 03-16-2023, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
Agate Grey Metallic.
I would have thought BRG. As annoying as you are, you got a good taste in cars man 👍
Old 03-16-2023, 10:36 AM
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this thread delivers.
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Old 03-16-2023, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperion
Hey, this thread is about two things:

1. commiseration amongst those who want a Porsche but can’t/won’t pay dealer markup

2. schadenfreude by those who — on merit or luck — obtained their Porsche despite ADM that they paid or avoided

Group hugs and drinking tears. Let’s get back to that, and start a separate thread on banking and monetary policy.

-hyp
Unfortunately, the one's who are in the (1) Camp who want to continue to talk about how bad the economy is and that ADM's will be collapsing even though they've been wrong for an entire year appear to be (conveniently) oblivious to the fact that the TECH and COMMUNICATIONS service groups in the S&P 500, home to the likes of Apple, Microsoft, and the parent companies of Facebook and Google (all located in Silicon Valley with employees that are compensated with stock-option grants) have climbed 2.3% and 2.9% respectively, in March, extending their 2023 gains.

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Old 03-16-2023, 11:48 AM
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Here is a fun one. How did a Raptor R end up at a Porsche dealership with 74 miles?

https://www.dupontregistry.com/autos...-raptor/136529

70k markup over sticker. Meanwhile Ram offered me a TRX order for 10% off MSRP. Mine is arriving in April. 103k sticker and 92k purchase price.

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Old 03-16-2023, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
Because you're not worth my time.
And I dont have to argue with people to validate myself.

Besides, I'm too busy enjoying a GT3 that you'll never own.

Nice, how many miles ya got?
Old 03-16-2023, 12:36 PM
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https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...ally-expensive

"I’ve bad news for those yearning to splash their bonus on a new Porsche 911 sportscar. If you order one today, it probably won’t be delivered for more than a year because the German company’s order books are overflowing.

With demand this strong, it’s no wonder Porsche is confident of being able to enact “significant” price increases this summer, according to its annual results presentation on Monday, which was the first since its blockbuster IPO in September.

It’s the latest evidence of premium automakers having far more pricing power than investors realized, and there’s little sign that rising rates or recession worries are about to puncture the profit party.

Like rivals, Porsche has prioritized production of its most expensive vehicles since the pandemic and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine roiled supply chains. Its affluent customers have had to dig deeper to purchase a vehicle: Average revenue per car sold has increased about one-fifth since 2019 to €112,000 ($120,000)"
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Originally Posted by deVeil
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...ally-expensive

"I’ve bad news for those yearning to splash their bonus on a new Porsche 911 sportscar. If you order one today, it probably won’t be delivered for more than a year because the German company’s order books are overflowing.

With demand this strong, it’s no wonder Porsche is confident of being able to enact “significant” price increases this summer, according to its annual results presentation on Monday, which was the first since its blockbuster IPO in September.

It’s the latest evidence of premium automakers having far more pricing power than investors realized, and there’s little sign that rising rates or recession worries are about to puncture the profit party.

Like rivals, Porsche has prioritized production of its most expensive vehicles since the pandemic and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine roiled supply chains. Its affluent customers have had to dig deeper to purchase a vehicle: Average revenue per car sold has increased about one-fifth since 2019 to €112,000 ($120,000)"
I wonder how much of the 'overflowing order books' are just the same person with their name at multiple dealers
Old 03-16-2023, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ascend
Market is crashing real hard today. We might see negative adm (also known as back to the norm).
Market is raging today, we might see even higher ADM!!!!




lol
Old 03-16-2023, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DodoBrd
I wonder how much of the 'overflowing order books' are just the same person with their name at multiple dealers
Yeah, I put in order demands for a TT and TTS. Certainly not going to buy both, and not necessarily going to buy either by the time allocations are avaiable.
Old 03-16-2023, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DodoBrd
I wonder how much of the 'overflowing order books' are just the same person with their name at multiple dealers
I doubt it. None of that is sent to Porsche. Plus, those lists don't mean much. In November 2021, with zero buyer history, I was offered a GT3 allocation at $50k ADM. The other 30 people ahead of me jumped ship.
Old 03-16-2023, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
I doubt it. None of that is sent to Porsche. Plus, those lists don't mean much. In November 2021, with zero buyer history, I was offered a GT3 allocation at $50k ADM. The other 30 people ahead of me jumped ship.
if none of that is sent to Porsche, what's meant by the German company’s order books are overflowing in the article above?
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Originally Posted by DodoBrd
if none of that is sent to Porsche, what's meant by the German company’s order books are overflowing in the article above?
That there isn't a single allocation that hasn't been assigned to a customer perhaps?
Old 03-16-2023, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DodoBrd
if none of that is sent to Porsche, what's meant by the German company’s order books are overflowing in the article above?
V070

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Old 03-16-2023, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
V070
Originally Posted by shrimp money
That there isn't a single allocation that hasn't been assigned to a customer perhaps?
exactly my point, allocation or not, V070 shows rough demand
Old 03-16-2023, 10:29 PM
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70k markup over sticker. Meanwhile Ram offered me a TRX order for 10% off MSRP. Mine is arriving in April. 103k sticker and 92k purchase price.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely love the TRX and fantastic you are getting a great deal on one. On my 3rd Ram 2500 Diesel, if I didn’t have to (want to) tow I would love to have a TRX, maybe the best looking stock truck out there.

cheers.


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