I am not going with the new 991.2
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Between the tight European emissions standards and the Chinese tax code Porsche is being influenced by outside political forces. Other than the exhaust sound I see no downside to their solution.
My 3.4 was a real dog below 4000 rpm and they solved for that in a big way. Torque up.. check, Horsepower up... check. Look at the Nurburgring lap times and the dramatic difference between 99.1 and the 991.2. It's huge.
Fabspeed offers a solution if the sound is really that objectionable, As an all around great GT Car the 2017 911S is demonstrably better to me.
My 3.4 was a real dog below 4000 rpm and they solved for that in a big way. Torque up.. check, Horsepower up... check. Look at the Nurburgring lap times and the dramatic difference between 99.1 and the 991.2. It's huge.
Fabspeed offers a solution if the sound is really that objectionable, As an all around great GT Car the 2017 911S is demonstrably better to me.
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Just my opinion. I've read all of the reviews and drove a new 991.2 for two days as a loaner while my 991.1 was in for service. I usually trade every ~3 years for a new 911.
I love my old 2014 911 with it's 3.4L non-turbo engine. I've owned many of them along with the 996.![ooops](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/icon501.gif)
I see no reason to upgrade at $50k+ to get a newer but inferior car.
I love my old 2014 911 with it's 3.4L non-turbo engine. I've owned many of them along with the 996.
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I see no reason to upgrade at $50k+ to get a newer but inferior car.
I drove the 991.2S as hard as I could around a track for an hour. Then the instructor did the same for four laps. Prior to that I was absolutely sure that my current 991.1 was a keeper (It's been on the track as well).
I now believe that this is the best way to truly test drive a car. If possible.
My next car will be a 991.2. I love my 991.1. Food for thought.
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Hey VR,
I drove the 991.2S as hard as I could around a track for an hour. Then the instructor did the same for four laps. Prior to that I was absolutely sure that my current 991.1 was a keeper (It's been on the track as well).
I now believe that this is the best way to truly test drive a car. If possible.
My next car will be a 991.2. I love my 991.1. Food for thought.
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I drove the 991.2S as hard as I could around a track for an hour. Then the instructor did the same for four laps. Prior to that I was absolutely sure that my current 991.1 was a keeper (It's been on the track as well).
I now believe that this is the best way to truly test drive a car. If possible.
My next car will be a 991.2. I love my 991.1. Food for thought.
B.
That is exactly what I did. I flew down to PEC Atlanta to drive and listen to them. I'm getting a 991.2. Love the NA PSE sound....but I only buy new and I love the torque and power of the .2s
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IMO PEC LA was not ideal for car test driving purposes, too much attention devoted to the driving exercises, and not enough on getting a good feel for the car itself. For a previous purchase I rented the car for 24 hours and drove my own commutes and back roads. Compared to PEC, this was a much more relevant and helpful experience. I would like to see PEC evolve toward a model where I could order and use a car however I wanted to for a day or two.
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IMO PEC LA was not ideal for car test driving purposes, too much attention devoted to the driving exercises, and not enough on getting a good feel for the car itself. For a previous purchase I rented the car for 24 hours and drove my own commutes and back roads. Compared to PEC, this was a much more relevant and helpful experience. I would like to see PEC evolve toward a model where I could order and use a car however I wanted to for a day or two.
Good points. However, this was my 4th time to PEC Atlanta and I told the instructor that I was only there to test drive the car. He let me do whatever I wanted. I got a great feel for the car....something that I couldn't do at a dealership.
Also listening to the .2s doing laps next to 981 Spyders and .1 GTSs, confirmed what I knew already. The exhaust note of the .2 (from a bystander's perspective) just sucked.....but I could live with it. Can't do that at a dealership.