philg3

Agreed -- I would have put 4 seconds in, and discussed with installer -- he thought 6 seconds was better, as the shape of the 911 makes it difficult to get a reading in the first place, and that on the local HWY 73 the police tend to hang out at a distance below the peak -- allowing him to get a reading @ 6 seconds, but I agree with you and will make the change.

I'd like to keep all existing settings -- but I can't see all of them. When I connect to the iPhone app, it gives me some, but not all of them. But I'm probably better configuring from scratch using the APL configurator on my MAC, and transferring to a flash drive to upload. Better yet, maybe I'll ask him to email the settings, so I don't miss something. He has the flash drive with the settings, and he could email that to me, but I doubt that would do me any good. Is there a way to query current settings? Perhaps, I am overthinking this, and should just start from scratch.

philg3

Recommend before you do anything, research this thoroughly. And don't be the first one on the block with this new Escort product (I was tempted, but controlled myself) -- could be great, but no one knows at this point. Everyone loves ALP, based upon my research -- not only the functionality, but they release very frequent updates, unlike Escort. ALP's system integrates well with Netradar -- uses the same configuration file -- like it's an ALP product.

My cost was about $3,500 + tax -- may be high, but it was done right the first time -- the installer was very good. Since you live nearby, PM me if you'd like the name of the installer.

stealthpilot

I would just start from scratch.

Here are mine
https://www.rdforum.org/showthread.php?t=57947

Porsche_nuts

Here is ALP site where you can configure your settings. What you want is Configure on the top heading. You want to change the LID time.

http://alpupdate.com/Firmware

goin2drt

You have a PM

Homeles

Been saved by the ALP 3 times, all 100+. All 3 times front the front. No need for more than 2.

goin2drt

Stealth pilot just curious what you will replace the netradar with?

stealthpilot

I'm not sure. I am in waiting mode.

Net Radar have made some recent improvements with the introduction of alerts but I still see some issues:

1) Interface issues if you don't use the bluetooth app. Without the app there is no way to lock out false alerts. So you can't just get in the car and drive, you have to load an app, or be bombarded with false alerts from every door opener.

2) Interface issues with the bluetooth app. There are several:
A) The arrows are not directional. The forward radar warning points down and to the right because the image of the car is not pointing forward. Why can't it be more logical with a car pointing forward, and the forward alert indicated by an up arrow?
B) If you are using your primary cell phone, then phone calls can disrupt alerts.
C) Even if you have a dedicated phone mounted as a display for the net radar (Like I do) the phone often doesn't pair automatically with the radar which requires manually fiddling with it every time you are starting the car.

3) The Lockout Approach has many issues:
A) The lockouts have very small geofences compared with how escort does it, which means you often need to lockout an alert from multiple directions and sometimes multiple times if you don't press the lockout button quickly enough.
B) The lockouts are not automatic so you constantly have to tap the button. Living in a city (Atlanta) I still haven't locked out the door openers after a year of driving around. Auto lockout completes this process much more efficiently but Net Radar doesn't offer that.
C) If you use a phone app and your wife uses a phone app, you will both need to lockout all the false, since there is no shared database.

4) No speed sensitive approach to filtering. Escort in Auto mode reduces the sensitivity at lower speeds, and this approach is speed variable. Net Radar doesn't have this which is also why it is more prone to false from door openers. Net Radar has no Auto mode - just a Highway and a City.

So in terms of what could meet my requirements. There are some options but none are an immediate answer:
1) Escort Max CI 360
2) Stinger VIP
3) Radenso HD+ (once they launch their new interface with auto lockouts and all the other goodies)
4) The upcoming High-End Net Radar which is expected to release either in late Q4 or next year

goin2drt

Thanks for the info. I may go back into the waiting room. At least Phil helped to finally find an installer I can trust.

Homeles

My understanding is the gun will register "error". The operator needs to reset and shoot. I know from experience they get the error message as I was told that by the LEC the last time I was stopped. If this is the case, 6 seconds is fine. That's what mine is set to.

stealthpilot

As the owner of an actual police lidar gun, I can tell you there is no error with the ALP.

What happens when you shoot a lidar is that you hear a pulsing sound until it locks on and gets a reading at which point you hear loud chirp and get a speed reading on the display.

When the gun is jammed you just get the pulsing sound as if it is failing to lock on to the target but you don't get an error.

The experience of being jammed is identical to the experience of aiming poorly and not getting a lock.

So some cops may let it go and just feel the gun wasn't working that well (maybe battery is weak or sunlight was too bright or aim wasn't good) and some will be suspicious and think they were jammed.

Given this I don't think a fixed LID time is necessary but you should allow the cop to get a reading at some distance.

I do this manually rather than have a fixed LID time. I have never had an issue with this.

erko1905

I have mine set at 3, I like it as a backup in case I'm not quick enough. 6 would be suspiciously long.

Joenyc

Looks like the max ci360 has been updated to detect dragoneye and diffuse amongst other firmware updates.

What's new in v1.1:
- ShifterMax sensors have been updated to counter the latest threats including all DragonEye guns
- Fixed a TrueLock issue causing certain false alerts to not properly store
- Added K and Ka band narrow segmenting

Minok

I'd be curious as to the interchangeability of the components between the 9500ci and the max ci/max ci360. Given most of the cost is in the install, it would have been nice if one could get the improved filtering and rejection of new vehicle safety system radar signals by just changing one or two of the modules on a 9500ci install, and not having to replace all of the wire runs etc.

stealthpilot

There is no interchangeability.