ipse dixit

And it's the only thing that sounds worse than a TT/TTS.

budrichard

If in a snow storm, don't want snow accumulating on spoiler interfering with vision, if parked oustide in a snow storm, don't want to have to clear snow off spoiler, simple logic to me!-Richard

budrichard

It's pretty much subjective and i have no objective data to support my feeling!-Richard

"He might need some Depends if he launches in a Turbo S"

I think he might have some vertigo issues. When he took me for a ride in his new Vette(MT), we really didn't seem to go that fast.

ace37

Fair enough!

rk-d

Latest Car and Driver tested the poverty trim Turbo and got some pretty astounding numbers. 0-60 in 2.6 sec, 1/4 mile in 10.7! From 0-60, it's the same as a Turbo S. Crazy.

Cars are so fast nowadays. It's hard to fathom. A Ford Explorer Eco-boost is as fast as a Lamborghini Countach.

ace37

I had wondered if that would be the case. Seems traction should really rule the 0-60 and the 0.2 bar of extra peak boost for the S wouldn't do much until the run is essentially over. I also wonder if the tire update for the .2 did as much for 0-60 as the other changes.

rk-d

There is clearly a limit to how fast a street car on DOT legal tires can go from 0-60. Even a 918 and Veyron can only do it 2.5 seconds.

Turbo S, I'm sure, shows up the Turbo on a roll or >100mph

ace37

Yeah I'd expect the TTS's 7% extra power to give it an edge both in a roll race and at high speed. For that matter it should make a difference for most anything that lasts at least 5-10 seconds. But 0-60 comes so quick and the 7% extra power is 0% until the boost is maxed out... just not a benchmark where the two differ all that much.

With the top league cars 0-60 these days really seems to just be a test of how good the launch and tires are these days. Power isn't the problem anymore until you get above legal speeds. Power does still make a difference in the quarter mile though.

I was surprised thought at that MT article showing the 991.2 TTS was faster 0-50 than any of the other cars they tested and faster to 60 than the Veyron. But again, it may just come down to the tires being the latest and greatest.

http://www.motortrend.com/news/2017-...r-ever-tested/

ipse dixit

Cars are so fast from a standstill these days, I think the 0-60 mph metric is outdated.

A better metric might be the 1/4 mile time. Or maybe at least a 0-100 mph test.

But 0-60 mph? We're not in 2015 anymore ...

rk-d

We've hit terminal velocity on the 0-60. I have such an intuitive feel for it though, having known it on every car I've ever owned. Too bad.

1/4 mile will be a meaningful metric for the foreseeable future. Turbo S/Turbo hitting between 10.5-10.7 and 918 in the 9's. Plenty of room to improve, I suppose.

diononiz

Here is a good read for you. (see below) Here in the Bay Area Teslas are everywhere. I have run against several P90ds and P100ds that friends own and the results align with the data in the article. My friends and I have even switched cars and the results are the same. After the first run the tesla seems to fade due to amount of charge left in the battery. Overheating could come in to play to also but it is really hard to tell after how many launches.

We have also done several runs from 50mph and its like the Tesla opened a parachute. The 911 turbo pulls away quickly.

http://www.motortrend.com/news/2017-...r-ever-tested/

R_Rated

This - with the 991.1 you have the whole naturally aspirated engine sound and feeling going for you. That is a mute point with the.2.

Are you financing or paying cash? If you're financing then the payment difference will be negligible.

Everyone's checklist is different and the 991.2 little turbo is already a stupid fast car.... but for me... my last car had stupid power and the old adage about driving a fast car slow vs a slow car fast. If you're going by logic then the big T wins based on spreadsheet analysis.

digistyl3

OP: did you decide?

rk-d

Yeah, I decided to go for it.

Have it spec with jet black metallic and matching interior trim - hoping the trim works out.

digistyl3

Wow, the red goes so well with the black. Congrats, it looks awesome!

Please do share your impressions when you get the car. When I test drove the 991.2 Turbo S, I was surprised how nimble it was in the corners (probably thanks to the RWS and infinite power), even compared to the 718 Boxster S and GT4.