rk-d

Thanks all. This was really helpful

Exactly my thoughts. High option car vs low option car at the same price point should favor the latter in resale. Particularly if the "low option" car is very close in build to the high option model.

It's not. The C4s was loaded w/exterior packages and whatnot. But that's stuff I don't actually want or need on the Turbo.

Yikes. I sent a VIN for a '17 Turbo and my premium increases $260 per 6 months. So it's doable. Or course this is replacing a GT4, which probably runs high.

ENCT

I had the same dilemma and wound up with a C4S order with pccb, sport package, pdcc, spasm, and leather interior. Every time I thought about the TT I said if I do that I should go TTS. Got a bit out of hand so I ordered the C4S. Also I leave something on the table for my next one.
Eric

pitt911

I'll go with Turbo
I agree with your SA, that the Turbo will depreciate less than Fully loaded C4S . Unfortunately, a fully loaded 4S to most, not all, is the same as a lightly optioned 4S .

ace37

I had ordered a C2S with a sticker price just under $140k to replace my 997 GTS. A week before it locked I talked with my SA and ordered a TT instead. A large portion of the C2 options I had came standard on the TT, and for me the TT was more of an icon. I wanted to try one at some point and this is a good time and phase in our lives for it.

I did end up spending quite a bit more as I optioned the TT fairly heavily instead of equivalently. But I'm very happy with the decision. I was excited for the C2S but now I'm childishly giddy for the TT. Should be here and ready for me in a week or two.

mac10

There is no bad decision either way but I agree with Northern 911. I think the 991.2 4S is a more elegant and better looking car with its wide body, smooth lines(no rear spoiler or side air vents) and the model specific rear tail light. With a tune(waiting on Cobb like most people) the 4S will be nearly as fast as a turbo model.

randr

An interesting conundrum indeed. From my experience you should buy the car that you actually want. Thus if you prefer the clean lines of the 4S (I do too) - I would go for that one. Option it exactly the way you want it and you will be a very happy camper.

Don't chase the numbers (e.g. 0-60, they are both very, very fast)

Needsdecaf

You und finitely have to like the look of the currrent Turbo body style too. It's quite a bit different from even the wide body C4

famous shoes

Insurance for the TT is a real issue. I never considered the Turbo because I didn't think it would be practical for a DD. However, when I told my agent I planned to purchase a 991.2 C2S he said, "it's not the Turbo, it it?". He thought the Turbo would be difficult to underwrite. My rates for my C2S increased only marginally over my 997.2.

rk-d

Agree - I think it was one of your posts that put the idea in my head, actually.

I can see preferring the lines of the C4. I think it's beautiful. That said, the Turbo is an icon for me. I also happen to love the looks - it has monster presence. I've obsessed with black 911 Turbos since I saw Condorman back in the early 80s. Plus, it's an end game car. I've driven the Carrera and it's fast, no doubt, but the Turbo is just stupid fast. 200mph and 0-60 faster than a McLaren F1. Just the idea makes me laugh, even if I never come close to exploring those limits.

Plus, part of me was a little worried about getting the C4 and regretting the choice - not just with the Turbo, but the upcoming GTS. The Turbo exists on it's own plane, so I'm not as obsessed about what's next. I mean - can they really make the thing any faster??

My insurance goes up, but I talked to a rep and gave them a VIN of a nearly identical build and I didn't get any push back on it. I mean, it's not like it's a Koenigsegg or something. Of course, I have no speeding tickets on my record so maybe that's part of it.

worf928

This is precisely how my '15 991.1 C4S became a '15 991.1 Turbo (non-S.)

If you can incinerate $145k on a car, then an extra $20k or so shouldn't change your blood pressure that much. It didn't for me. What it did do though, was to convince me to just go all-out and get exactly what I wanted along with ED.

On the other hand, I'm not a flipper and had zero interest in resale value or spec'ing it for the second or third buyer's sensibilities.

BlackBeauty

Not to muddy the waters, but I also had the same dilemma, for full disclosure I'm also a CPA and agree completely with STG's analysis. However I went with a C4S. To me I could "feel" the TT's extra weight. Yes, there's extra power there, but not a whole lot more. Does it matter? It depends how you drive and more importantly, getting used to the car.

My .2 C4S had an MSRP of $142K. For me I liked having what the TT had - rear wheel steering, AWD and I was going PDK regardless, but I went with the lighter car and I couldn't be happier. Will I take a bath when I trade it in? You bet. Am I lovin' every day with it? You bet. So my advice is drive both - typically there might be a used or "punched" .1 TT on the lot - drive it. The TT is also really wide - that's what I came away with - really wide and noticeably heavier. It's a different beast, certainly more recognizable, but no matter which beast you chose it's up to us to tame our beasts -and each beast can only have one master (i.e. each car has its unique pluses and minuses and it's up to us to figure out how to maximize the positive and minimize the negative - that's where the real enjoyment comes in as well as our development as skillful drivers). Enjoy your hunt!

captainkirk

The only one issue with the baby Turbo C4S and big bro Turbo is Sport Exhaust Noise. At least in C4S you do get the rumbling noises......but with the price difference one should go to Turbo.

I feel Porsche is copying Apple's model here on up sell. Show all the models, but make the person who wants fully optioned C4S just go for Turbo model.

It is a challenging choice

ipse dixit

I think you're focusing a bit on the wrong issue -- i.e., the price difference of 14k.

I think what you should really ask yourself is this: "Which car do I want more, irrespective of the price (or price difference)?"

The C4S and the Turbo are not really interchangeable cars, nor is the former simply a "baby brother" of the latter. The two, while very similar, do drive differently due in no small part to the different engine / turbo setups and the weight of each car.

babyjocko

Not sure how you equipped your C4S, but my C4S compared to a comparably equipped Turbo is $25G difference. And, that's with the base Turbo wheels vs. the $2370 Spyder wheels on the C4S.

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By the way, if I were to option the Turbo wheels for the C4S (same price as the Spyder wheels) the difference would be >$27G.

Comparably equipped, they don't come close. Sure, you could option up a C4S to surpass a base Turbo in price. But, once you add those options on a Turbo, it shoots the price up. And, Porsche USA does not offer packages on the Turbo, which result in even better value for the C4S.

rk-d

Thanks all for the continuing feedback.

I've driven the 991.2 pretty thoroughly. I've had limited experience in the 991.2 Turbo, but it was pretty searing. I am coming from a GT4, so this is a pretty radical change. But if I was prioritizing weight and pure feel, I wouldn't be changing. If I'm going to exchange the virtues of the GT4 for power, then I want POWER. Not that the C4s is slow (it is not), but the Turbo is impractically and stupidly violent in it's power, but still completely drivable. I find that intriguing.

Clearly I overbuilt the C4s, which is where the value component comes in. I built it to where I was happy with it. Same with the Turbo. Ends up that I don't need as much on the Turbo to be happy. I know I'm not supposed to care about future resale and that I'm losing money either way, but it's a factor.