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$80-$85K would be the range I would shoot for on that car. It looks great. Love the black rims. Good options. Not sure if you can get the dealer that low, but worth a try.
Much wiser people here than me, but would want to know why new brake pads after 10k miles?
New tires too, although there could be legit reasons for that, and they decided to replace all of them.
Also a demo.
A little research on the lime gold Carmax 911S produced a bunch of interesting information. If this is correct, it was at 40 (!!) different Carmax locations between March, 2015, and December, 2016! There is also some information about the 2015 accident. i have no idea of the reliability of the web site where all this is posted:
Accident/Junk/Salvage/Insurance Records
Vehicle Recalls Available: 79
Vehicle Age: 3 year(s)
Assembly Location: Germany Stuttgart, Germany
Body Style: Coupe
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2014 Porsche 911
VIN: WP0AB2A98ES120681
Carrera S
3.8L H6 400hp 325ft. lbs.
Detailed Vehicle History
Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text.
Report Run Date: August 31, 2017
Vehicle: WP0AB2A98ES120681
issue fund79 VEHICLE HISTORY
ISSUES FOUND
DATE MILEAGE SOURCE DETAILS
2013
Original Manufacturer
Fuel Economy Test 19 MPG Hwy / 27 MPG City
2013
Original Manufacturer
Shipped to Dealer - Original MSRP: 98900
2013
Original Manufacturer
Manufactured in Germany Stuttgart, Germany
10-17-2013
NHTSA Recalls
Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (porsche) Is Recalling Certain Model Year 2014 Boxster, Boxster S, Cayman, Cayman S And 911 Carrera (s, Cabriolet, S Cabriolet, 4, 4s, 4 Cabriolet, 4s Cabriolet) Vehicles Manufactured September 2, 2013, Through September 23, 2013. In The Affected Vehicles, The Passenger Seats May Be Equipped With Defective Wiring Harnesses Resulting In Intermittent Contact With The Harness Plug.
10-17-2013
NHTSA Recalls
Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (porsche) Is Recalling Certain Model Year 2014 Boxster, Boxster S, Cayman, Cayman S And 911 Carrera (s, Cabriolet, S Cabriolet, 4, 4s, 4 Cabriolet, 4s Cabriolet) Vehicles Manufactured September 2, 2013, Through September 23, 2013. In The Affected Vehicles, The Passenger Seats May Be Equipped With Defective Wiring Harnesses Resulting In Intermittent Contact With The Harness Plug.
10-27-2013
State Accident Record
Clark NV
10-27-2013
State Accident Record
Clark NV
11-27-2013
9 mi.
Nevada
Historical Odometer Record
11-04-2014
NHTSA Recalls
Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (porsche) Is Recalling Certain Model Year 2014-2015 Porsche 911, Boxster, And Cayman Vehicles Manufactured May 7, 2014, To September 23, 2014. The Front Hood Upper Lock Components Were Not Manufactured To Specification And May Fail To Securely Latch The Vehicle's Hood During Operation.
12-31-2014
NMVTIS
No Problems Reported
03-07-2015
12,581 mi.
CarMax Henderson
Listing Price : $91,998
Vehicle Mileage : 12,581 miles
Vehicle Color : Green
06-22-2015
12,704 mi.
Arizona
Historical Odometer Record
07-08-2015
12,711 mi.
Arizona
Historical Odometer Record
12-31-2015
NMVTIS
No Problems Reported
06-11-2016
12,711 mi.
Arizona
Current Odometer Record
08-03-2016
23,793 mi.
CarMax Tucson
Listing Price : $79,998
Vehicle Mileage : 23,793 miles
Vehicle Color : Gold
10-04-2016
24,000 mi.
CarMax (Tucson)
Listing Price : $79,998
Vehicle Mileage : 24,000 miles
Vehicle Color : Gold
10-04-2016
24,000 mi.
Carmax Turnersville
Listing Price : $79,998
Vehicle Mileage : 24,000 miles
Vehicle Color : Siriusxm Trial Avail
10-04-2016
24,000 mi.
Carmax Albuquerque
Listing Price : $79,998
Vehicle Mileage : 24,000 miles
Vehicle Color : Smart Key
10-04-2016
24,000 mi.
Carmax Dayton
Listing Price : $79,998
Vehicle Mileage : 24,000 miles
Vehicle Color : Siriusxm Trial Avail
10-04-2016
24,000 mi.
Carmax Independence
Listing Price : $79,998
Vehicle Mileage : 24,000 miles
Vehicle Color : Siriusxm Trial Avail
10-04-2016
24,000 mi.
Carmax Jackson
Listing Price : $79,998
Vehicle Mileage : 24,000 miles
Vehicle Color : Siriusxm Trial Avail
10-07-2016
24,000 mi.
Carmax North Attleboro
Listing Price : $79,998
Vehicle Mileage : 24,000 miles
Vehicle Color : Siriusxm Trial Avail
10-07-2016
24,000 mi.
Carmax Fredericksburg
Listing Price : $79,998
Vehicle Mileage : 24,000 miles
Vehicle Color : Siriusxm Trial Avail
10-07-2016
24,000 mi.
Carmax Reno
Listing Price : $79,998
Vehicle Mileage : 24,000 miles
Vehicle Color : Smart Key
10-11-2016
24,000 mi.
Carmax Salt Lake (South Jordan)
Listing Price : $79,998
Vehicle Mileage : 24,000 miles
Vehicle Color : Siriusxm Trial Avail
10-11-2016
24,000 mi.
CarMax Des Moines
Listing Price : $79,998
Vehicle Mileage : 24,000 miles
Vehicle Color : Siriusxm Trial Avail
10-11-2016
24,000 mi.
Carmax Columbia
Listing Price : $79,998
Vehicle Mileage : 24,000 miles
Vehicle Color : Siriusxm Trial Avail
10-12-2016
24,000 mi.
Carmax St. Louis - South Lindbergh
Listing Price : $79,998
Vehicle Mileage : 24,000 miles
Vehicle Color : Siriusxm Trial Avail
11-06-2016
24,000 mi.
Carmax Phoenix-Gilbert
Listing Price : $79,998
Vehicle Mileage : 24,000 miles
Vehicle Color : Siriusxm Trial Avail
11-13-2016
24,000 mi.
Carmax Augusta
Listing Price : $79,998
Vehicle Mileage : 24,000 miles
Vehicle Color : Siriusxm Trial Avail
11-13-2016
24,000 mi.
Carmax San Antonio Live Oak
Listing Price : $79,998
Vehicle Mileage : 24,000 miles
Vehicle Color : Siriusxm Trial Avail
11-13-2016
24,000 mi.
Carmax Salt Lake (South Jordan)
Listing Price : $79,998
Vehicle Mileage : 24,000 miles
Vehicle Color : Siriusxm Trial Avail
11-13-2016
24,000 mi.
Carmax South Broadway
Listing Price : $79,998
Vehicle Mileage : 24,000 miles
Vehicle Color : Siriusxm Trial Avail
11-15-2016
24,000 mi.
CarMax Des Moines
Listing Price : $79,998
Vehicle Mileage : 24,000 miles
Vehicle Color : Siriusxm Trial Avail
11-21-2016
24,000 mi.
Carmax Tinley Park
Listing Price : $79,998
Vehicle Mileage : 24,000 miles
Vehicle Color : Siriusxm Trial Avail
12-14-2016
24,000 mi.
Carmax Kearny Mesa
Listing Price : $73,998
Vehicle Mileage : 24,000 miles
Vehicle Color : Siriusxm Trial Avail
12-31-2016
NMVTIS
No Problems Reported
08-31-2017
Theft Database
Vehicle Status : No Stolen Records Available
08-31-2017
Edmunds - True Market Value
Trade-In : $64,967
Private Sale : $69,168
Dealers Retail : $72,893
2018
50,000 mi.
Porsche
Powertrain Warranty: 1 years
2018
50,000 mi.
Porsche
Basic Warranty: 1 years
2018
50,000 mi.
Porsche
Roadside Assistance: 1 years
2026
Unlimited mi.
Porsche
Corrosion Warranty: 9 years
Odometer Records Source : NMVTIS
DATE STATE OF TITLE RECORD TYPE MILEAGE VIN
11-27-2013 Nevada Historical 9 mi. WP0AB2A98ES120681
06-22-2015 Arizona Historical 12704 mi. WP0AB2A98ES120681
07-08-2015 Arizona Historical 12711 mi. WP0AB2A98ES120681
06-11-2016 Arizona Current 12711 mi. WP0AB2A98ES120681
Accident Records
Your Vehicle Checks Out: There have been 2 accident record(s) reported to VehicleHistory.com for this vehicle. The accident records on vehicle history are composed of a number of state sources and some independent agencies, they are based strictly on the information that is available to us.
issue fund2 ACCIDENT
FOUND ON RECORD
DATE REPORTING ENTITY DETAILS
10-27-2013 County : Clark
State : NV
Vehicle Description : 2014 Porsche 911
Type of Crash: Non-collision
Posted Speed: 75 MPH
Estimated Speed: 80 MPH
Vehicle Action: Going Straight
Vehicle Parked?: Yes
Struck Fixed Object?: No
Vehicle Struck Animal?: No
Towing Indicator?: No
Occupant Extricated?: No
Driver Airbag Status: Not Deployed
Pass. Airbag Deployed?: No
10-27-2013 County : Clark
State : NV
Vehicle Description : 2014 Porsche 911
Type of Crash: Non-collision
Posted Speed: 75 MPH
Estimated Speed: 80 MPH
Vehicle Action: Going Straight
Vehicle Parked?: Yes
Struck Fixed Object?: No
Vehicle Struck Animal?: No
Towing Indicator?: No
Occupant Extricated?: No
Driver Airbag Status: Not Deployed
Pass. Airbag Deployed?: No
Previous Vehicle Uses And Incidents
Your Vehicle Checks Out : VehicleHistory's database for this WP0AB2A98ES120681 shows 2 negative titles or other problems. When reported to VehicleHistory, these events can indicate serious past damage or other significant problems.
issue fundVEHICLE USE
2 ISSUES FOUND
8 Vehicle Uses Checked 2 Event(s) Reported
No Rental Use Record No Issues Found
No Taxi Use Record No Issues Found
No Police Use Record No Issues Found
No Test Use Record No Issues Found
2 Accident/Salvage Record Reported Through Data Sources 2 Issue Found
No Rebuilt Title Record(s) No Issues Found
No Undisclosed Lien Record(s) No Issues Found
No Theft Record(s) No Issues Found
Theft Records
No Theft or Theft Recovery Records Found !
Lien / Impound / Export Records
No Lien / Impound / Export Records Found!
Junk / Salvage / Insurance Record Source : NMVTIS
No Junk / Salvage / Insurance Record Found!
Salvage Auction Record
No Salvage Auction Record !
Sales Records
Market Value for 2014 Porsche 911 (Carrera 4S)
Market Average
$90,571
Below Market
$80,006 or less
Above Market
$101,136 or more
Estimates based on 255 similar vehicles sold between Mar 05, 2017 - Aug 20, 2017
ASSUMPTIONS
Current Mileage: 16,639 miles
Time Period: Past 6 months
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Those records might be misleading. Some of the Carmax locations report it being there on the same date. Also, the accident was at 80mph? But no airbags and no extrication? Am I missing something?
Much wiser people here than me, but would want to know why new brake pads after 10k miles?
New tires too, although there could be legit reasons for that, and they decided to replace all of them.
Also a demo.
Good points and I'm waiting to hear back on why. The demo part is of some concern but is was a factory demo and not a dealer demo driven by reckless salesmen and potential buyers so that is somewhat comforting. Thank you.
Additional searching has yielded 2 other identical cars with similar miles at other East coast dealers. Maybe a coincidence but does anyone know if Porsche produced several of the same cars for their execs to drive? (The other 2 ads did not state factory demo, however.)
Make a legendary offer! (If you really, really, really want it!)
Originally Posted by Hurricane
That Lime Gold CARMAX car is now a legend!
I would send someone to get eyes on it and a PPI and then write to Carmax corporate with the details of its history across 40 different locations with a cash offer. Cash offer commensurate to the issues with it. I would do this instead of any sales site, just send direct to corporate. Who knows???
08-31-2017, 03:39 PM
