HOT FOR SALE: Pick of the Week 991
#7906
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Do any sales tax and govt fee homework before making an offer, then make your offer price "out the door". If out of state keep your own tax situation in mind. That's what I did in three CA purchases and an IL purchase. It sets clear expectations and gives you a reference point you can return to if/when the add-ons come later when the docs show up. It also kinda sorta forces them to "reveal" those fees earlier in the price discussion.
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This is a big problem here in FL as well. You negotiate a price. You get the paperwork and see 899 dealer prep fee 450 documentation fee. It gets ridiculous. You have to start negotiations all over again. I start by pointing at them and saying "I'm not paying that" and go from there.
In MA I pay sales tax, excise tax etc myself. If the dealer mandates they do the registration for you they have to include that price. Otherwise I am free to do my own registration.
It helped that I was leasing recently, it is actually forbidden to divert from the announced runoff price on lease advertising except for government monies.
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Nice C2S manual Sport Design. Get them to CPO it! $36K off MSRP.
Great build. Worth pointing out >> base stereo and 4 way seats.
VIN: WP0AB2A92ES121633
Model: 2014 C2S Rhodium
Miles: 12,849
Price: $85,000
Seller: Porsche of Farmington Hills
Link: https://porscheoffarmingtonhills.com...tallic+1055413
Surprised this is still for sale ..
Great build. Worth pointing out >> base stereo and 4 way seats.
VIN: WP0AB2A92ES121633
Model: 2014 C2S Rhodium
Miles: 12,849
Price: $85,000
Seller: Porsche of Farmington Hills
Link: https://porscheoffarmingtonhills.com...tallic+1055413
Surprised this is still for sale ..
"...please note that this 911 is a Porsche Approved Certified Pre-Owned Vehicle. All Porsche Approved CPO Vehicles complete a 111-point inspection performed by a Porsche trained technician, and has additional warranty coverage as well. The warranty expires Feb. 4th, 2020 or 100k miles (whichever occurs first)."
#7909
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^^^ Sweet. Even a bigger bonus!
Clean history too
https://www.dealer-site.com/autochec...53313231363333
Clean history too
https://www.dealer-site.com/autochec...53313231363333
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^^^ Sweet. Even a bigger bonus!
Clean history too
https://www.dealer-site.com/autochec...53313231363333
Clean history too
https://www.dealer-site.com/autochec...53313231363333
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The link was dead, so they either caught the error, or someone was faster than me.
My wife is awesome, but I can't imagine explaining how I bought ANOTHER 911 less than five months after buying my C2S; she would lock up the iPad and ban me from RL
My wife is awesome, but I can't imagine explaining how I bought ANOTHER 911 less than five months after buying my C2S; she would lock up the iPad and ban me from RL
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This is a big problem here in FL as well. You negotiate a price. You get the paperwork and see 899 dealer prep fee 450 documentation fee. It gets ridiculous. You have to start negotiations all over again. I start by pointing at them and saying "I'm not paying that" and go from there.
- They must charge the identical fee to everyone and never waive it! Non-negotiable. (But of course it doesn't mean they can't discount the car an additional amount equaling the d&h).
- They must have signs all over the dealership and all negotiating tables stating the amount of d&h that will be added.
- Just recently added: Any advertised price must include the d&h, online, print, email, wherever.
Not that big of an issue once you understand the process... I just make sure every offer I make at a dealer is "...including d&h, excluding sales tax". Make sure you do the same if negotiating with any Colorado dealer.
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This is what I get for selling my 993...
STG amazing thread, what am I getting for the 60-65k that my wife will let me spend? Can I find a C2/C4 with PDK and options with under 24k in that range? I was happy with the power in my 993 and the 997's I have driven, assume base C2/C4 is enough for me. Have two kids 5-7 so figure a bit more room wouldn't hurt.
STG amazing thread, what am I getting for the 60-65k that my wife will let me spend? Can I find a C2/C4 with PDK and options with under 24k in that range? I was happy with the power in my 993 and the 997's I have driven, assume base C2/C4 is enough for me. Have two kids 5-7 so figure a bit more room wouldn't hurt.
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Best deal first-year C2 non-S without high miles seem to be hitting low 60's, with some dipping down into mid 50's. Again, no C4 models first year...
Moving to newer cars, super low miles, super-high original price, and cars with CPO all bump the price.
Bottom line a very nice 2012.5 C2, PDK Sport Chrono, under 30K miles under $64K shouldn't be too hard to find. I've seen several in the past few months...
As for C2 vs C2S, personal preference. For no terribly logical reasons, I like C2 manuals just fine, but prefer the S when coupled with PDK. If you do go PDK, Sport Chrono is really important if you don't want lazy PDK shifting and can't be added on 991's.
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^^^^
Don't know if you want a cab, but here's an example... A bit higher mileage than your spec but also a pretty high original sticker...
VIN: WP0CA2A98DS141105
Model: 2013 C2 Cabriolet
Miles: 30,000
Sticker: $114K
Price: $62K (46% depreciation)
Seller: CarMax
Link: www.carmax.com/car/14065702
Don't know if you want a cab, but here's an example... A bit higher mileage than your spec but also a pretty high original sticker...
VIN: WP0CA2A98DS141105
Model: 2013 C2 Cabriolet
Miles: 30,000
Sticker: $114K
Price: $62K (46% depreciation)
Seller: CarMax
Link: www.carmax.com/car/14065702
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