Money2536's Farewell to the 991 Forum
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Money2536's Farewell to the 991 Forum
All, it's been quite a ride this past year with my 911 C2S. I ordered my X51 C2S last September after trading in my E92 M3. The dream of owning not only a 911, but a car perfectly built to my specifications. When I got the car I noticed a pretty nasty ding in the back of the car. After a few months, I got over it. All was great with my car.
Well, the dream turned into a nightmare. I started feeling what I thought was a vibration on the highway when I was in fifth through seventh gear. Then I started to identify it as more of a hesitation rather then a vibration. I further diagnosed it as more of a stumble from about 2,000ish to 4,000 RPMs. I thought I had bad gas, or the car was misfiring, or possibly a bad differential. I really didn't know.
That was when I found the dreaded "Hesitation/Stumble" Thread on 6speed. Others were describing exactly what was happening to my car.
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...-2500-rpm.html
So I decided I would help start the crusade to figure out an undiagnosed problem. I went to two different dealerships, and they basically told me there was nothing they could do.
After careful consideration, I've decided rather than hating my car, stressing about trying to get Porsche to fix it, or some other solution that I would just trade the car.
I obviously didn't want to chance getting a C2S again, so I began the search to find a GT3. Today I made the trade.
I post these numbers to help others to understand what they may be facing if you decided to take the loss. I'm guessing a stumbling car is basically unsellable to a private party, so you'll have to trade it.
My C2S stickered at $134,575. I got it for about $126,000. I traded it today for $98,000. So I took a loss of $28,000 plus taxes/fees in a little over 8 months. Needless to say, I won't be making any more car changes/purchases anytime in the near future.
I'm sorry to those that have cars that are still having problem. I pray that Porsche comes up with a fix ASAP. The stress made me seriously consider my options. In the end, I decided my sanity is more important than my money.
Oh, and I got a GT3!!!!!!!!! Come on over to the 991 GT3 section for my next Journal. Thanks for all of the fun this community provides. This is a fantastic outlet for a car guy introvert like myself that is often misunderstood.
If anyone is interested, I need to sell my RSS 7mm & 15mm Spacers, AWE Switch Path with Diamond Black Tips, and Front Trunk Liner.
I need to take some better photos. These are not very good or accurate. I've been shooting white for so long, I forgot how to capture Blue. The Sapphire Blue is awesome in person. Stay tuned for updates.
Well, the dream turned into a nightmare. I started feeling what I thought was a vibration on the highway when I was in fifth through seventh gear. Then I started to identify it as more of a hesitation rather then a vibration. I further diagnosed it as more of a stumble from about 2,000ish to 4,000 RPMs. I thought I had bad gas, or the car was misfiring, or possibly a bad differential. I really didn't know.
That was when I found the dreaded "Hesitation/Stumble" Thread on 6speed. Others were describing exactly what was happening to my car.
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...-2500-rpm.html
So I decided I would help start the crusade to figure out an undiagnosed problem. I went to two different dealerships, and they basically told me there was nothing they could do.
After careful consideration, I've decided rather than hating my car, stressing about trying to get Porsche to fix it, or some other solution that I would just trade the car.
I obviously didn't want to chance getting a C2S again, so I began the search to find a GT3. Today I made the trade.
I post these numbers to help others to understand what they may be facing if you decided to take the loss. I'm guessing a stumbling car is basically unsellable to a private party, so you'll have to trade it.
My C2S stickered at $134,575. I got it for about $126,000. I traded it today for $98,000. So I took a loss of $28,000 plus taxes/fees in a little over 8 months. Needless to say, I won't be making any more car changes/purchases anytime in the near future.
I'm sorry to those that have cars that are still having problem. I pray that Porsche comes up with a fix ASAP. The stress made me seriously consider my options. In the end, I decided my sanity is more important than my money.
Oh, and I got a GT3!!!!!!!!! Come on over to the 991 GT3 section for my next Journal. Thanks for all of the fun this community provides. This is a fantastic outlet for a car guy introvert like myself that is often misunderstood.
If anyone is interested, I need to sell my RSS 7mm & 15mm Spacers, AWE Switch Path with Diamond Black Tips, and Front Trunk Liner.
I need to take some better photos. These are not very good or accurate. I've been shooting white for so long, I forgot how to capture Blue. The Sapphire Blue is awesome in person. Stay tuned for updates.
Last edited by Money2536; 10-10-2014 at 05:13 PM.
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Looks like a beautiful car! And you no longer have to worry about brake dust. Congratulations.
What options do you have on the GT3? It'll be interesting to see your comparisons with the C2S
What options do you have on the GT3? It'll be interesting to see your comparisons with the C2S
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Very nice! Enjoy.
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truthfully, based on your extensive history of mods and such, i was kind of wondering why you didn't have the gt3. its a stunner and if i lived in a place where the roads were similar to yours, i would be driving the same. GL and GB!
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Money2536,
Please post a comparison review of C2S and GT3 on this forum, after you've driven your new GT3 for a while. And please visit this forum from time to time. We've been really enjoying reading your posts.
And at last a non-white car! What a gorgeous color, this Sapphire Blue! Enjoy!
Please post a comparison review of C2S and GT3 on this forum, after you've driven your new GT3 for a while. And please visit this forum from time to time. We've been really enjoying reading your posts.
And at last a non-white car! What a gorgeous color, this Sapphire Blue! Enjoy!
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Jealous! I need the bag seats for occasional kid pickups. If I can find a safe way to get some seats back there I'm all over one as well. Nice color although red ones are faster
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This is a serious issue that needs further investigation...
Well, the dream turned into a nightmare. I started feeling what I thought was a vibration on the highway when I was in fifth through seventh gear. Then I started to identify it as more of a hesitation rather then a vibration. I further diagnosed it as more of a stumble from about 2,000ish to 4,000 RPMs. I thought I had bad gas, or the car was misfiring, or possibly a bad differential. I really didn't know.
That was when I found the dreaded "Hesitation/Stumble" Thread on 6speed. Others were describing exactly what was happening to my car.
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...-2500-rpm.html
So I decided I would help start the crusade to figure out an undiagnosed problem. I went to two different dealerships, and they basically told me there was nothing they could do.
After careful consideration, I've decided rather than hating my car, stressing about trying to get Porsche to fix it, or some other solution that I would just trade the car.
That was when I found the dreaded "Hesitation/Stumble" Thread on 6speed. Others were describing exactly what was happening to my car.
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...-2500-rpm.html
So I decided I would help start the crusade to figure out an undiagnosed problem. I went to two different dealerships, and they basically told me there was nothing they could do.
After careful consideration, I've decided rather than hating my car, stressing about trying to get Porsche to fix it, or some other solution that I would just trade the car.
The genie is out of the bottle now & you can't put it back in. Porsche and its 991 owners either have a serious problem in their hands...or they don't! And if there is fire to this smoke, some lawyer(s) and a class action suit will find its way right into the middle of it! That is the kind of litigious society we live in. So I don't think we can, or should, dismiss the problem and just happily/merrily follow you into the gt3 forum to continue to enjoy your descriptive & usually helpful posts! I think we need to discuss this problem here on this 991 forum and try to get some further clarity on the issue & how many others are affected by it. Plus what, if anything, is PAG & PCNA saying about it...even if it is to dispute that there is a problem at all!
Very concerned,
Eduardo
Carmel
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Well, I have mixed feelings about what you wrote above. Did you have an actual technical representative of PCNA take a look at your car?
The genie is out of the bottle now & you can't put it back in. Porsche and its 991 owners either have a serious problem in their hands...or they don't! And if there is fire to this smoke, some lawyer(s) and a class action suit will find its way right into the middle of it! That is the kind of litigious society we live in. So I don't think we can, or should, dismiss the problem and just happily/merrily follow you into the gt3 forum to continue to enjoy your descriptive & usually helpful posts! I think we need to discuss this problem here on this 991 forum and try to get some further clarity on the issue & how many others are affected by it. Plus what, if anything, is PAG & PCNA saying about it...even if it is to dispute that there is a problem at all!
Very concerned,
Eduardo
Carmel
.
The genie is out of the bottle now & you can't put it back in. Porsche and its 991 owners either have a serious problem in their hands...or they don't! And if there is fire to this smoke, some lawyer(s) and a class action suit will find its way right into the middle of it! That is the kind of litigious society we live in. So I don't think we can, or should, dismiss the problem and just happily/merrily follow you into the gt3 forum to continue to enjoy your descriptive & usually helpful posts! I think we need to discuss this problem here on this 991 forum and try to get some further clarity on the issue & how many others are affected by it. Plus what, if anything, is PAG & PCNA saying about it...even if it is to dispute that there is a problem at all!
Very concerned,
Eduardo
Carmel
.
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Love that you kept the plate at least for now. It's the anti M badge on a 325.