991 issues update and lemon law filling
#196
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I agree with a lot of this. But I'd buy from (the right) a Rennlister. I like buying new Porsches, mainly because I like knowing the car was properly broken in from day #1.
Last edited by LexVan; 04-07-2014 at 01:43 PM.
#197
Race Director
deny deny deny
this is a nice reminder of the company we're dealing w/ (credit to Nizer for the link):
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2013...news/130919830
this is a nice reminder of the company we're dealing w/ (credit to Nizer for the link):
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2013...news/130919830
#201
Burning Brakes
Either it works after they fix it 3 times & 30 days (cumulative) or they get it back or something close to that. Can be safety , but otherwise also.
From WA State website
Days out of service accumulated during attempts to diagnose or repair due to one or more ‘nonconformities’ or ‘serious safety defects’. The vehicle has been out of service due to diagnosis or repair:
"A cumulative total of 30 or more cumulative calendar days
at least 15 days occurred during the period of the manufacturer’s written warranty and during the “eligibility period” (see What Is The Eligibility Period?)
The consumer sent a written request to the manufacturer asking for repurchase or replacement of the vehicle and
manufacturer failed to respond or did not reached a resolution with the consumer within 40 days
Nonconformity:
A ‘nonconformity' is a defect that “substantially impairs” the use, value or safety of the motor vehicle making the vehicle unreliable, unsafe for ordinary use or diminished in resale value compared to equivalent vehicles. "
#202
porsche needs to step up with this.
They could hand you a brand new car in a week and not even feel it on a balance sheet.
My dealer called on friday to ask if I wanted to finalize my order. I decided against it, and directed him to this thread.
What good is a great car with a sh!tty company behind it. When they take care of Nick, my money will be back on the table.
They could hand you a brand new car in a week and not even feel it on a balance sheet.
My dealer called on friday to ask if I wanted to finalize my order. I decided against it, and directed him to this thread.
What good is a great car with a sh!tty company behind it. When they take care of Nick, my money will be back on the table.
#203
Nick, back on 3/20 you posted that the Lemon Law arbitration is only a few days away. Since then they managed to get the car in good enough shape to last 32 hours before it died while driving, leaving you smoldering on the Connecticut Parkway. That was April 2nd. What's the latest? Back to arbitration?
#204
Rennlist Member
Yea,
What happened to this chap?
Perhaps he did retain legal council and they advised him to no longer post about his wonderful experiences. ??
I have been following the thread as well. So tough to read. Just awful.
Not sure if I should say it or not but I'm afraid this dealer is to blame 100%.
I never make any mods to a new car that is under any kind of factory or factory extended warranty. I keep thinking this all came about from having the dealer install a couple of electrical "extras' on the car and it snowballed into what it has become. ?
What happened to this chap?
Perhaps he did retain legal council and they advised him to no longer post about his wonderful experiences. ??
I have been following the thread as well. So tough to read. Just awful.
Not sure if I should say it or not but I'm afraid this dealer is to blame 100%.
I never make any mods to a new car that is under any kind of factory or factory extended warranty. I keep thinking this all came about from having the dealer install a couple of electrical "extras' on the car and it snowballed into what it has become. ?
#205
Drifting
#206
Race Director
#207
Drifting
#208
Nick, back on 3/20 you posted that the Lemon Law arbitration is only a few days away. Since then they managed to get the car in good enough shape to last 32 hours before it died while driving, leaving you smoldering on the Connecticut Parkway. That was April 2nd. What's the latest? Back to arbitration?
#209
Instructor
Thread Starter
Update
Yes the arbitration was originally planned for early April but it got pushed to 25 April.
PCNA would still like me to drive the car and in hopes I will find it is all fixed and want to keep it with a compensation package. However as you know I only had the car for a bit over 30 hours before it broke down again and it has been with the dealer since then. The car has been returned to the dealer 7 times now for 60+ accumulated days of repair.
Some good news, because of the video I took last Saturday of the smoke coming from the passenger’s window (which you can see here)
They were able to locate some burnt and frayed wires, which you see at the end of that video. Those wires were shorting out on the chassis. On top of this they have found water damage in some of the other electronic components. This does explain some of the problems that is for sure, how much it fixed and how many problems remain I don’t think I will ever know. I also wonder why no fuses ever burnt out? I also wonder what other issues these shorts caused within the cars computer bus and what long term damage the water has caused.
The problem I have is that while I want to be fair and accommodating where possible, I am at the end of my patience and this is starting to take a toll on my health.
I was nervous about driving the car before that last incident now it gives me a feeling of dread. In the end no one was hurt and maybe I should man up and get past it, however I keep re-living the breakdown and close call I had that day while trying to get to the side of the road. I am not sleeping well and I have a twitch that makes my lower eyelid look like a jumping jellybean.
So I am very eager to have this all behind me. My girlfriend is a GP and switches between worrying about me and wanting to drive down to PCNA and stab a few people in the face. I have her restrained for now.
As for you guys, I am humbled by all the well wishing, advice and support I have received from the Porsche owners community. I want to thank everyone particularly those of you on Rennlist and 6Speed taking to time to support me.
Thank you everyone.
Nick
PCNA would still like me to drive the car and in hopes I will find it is all fixed and want to keep it with a compensation package. However as you know I only had the car for a bit over 30 hours before it broke down again and it has been with the dealer since then. The car has been returned to the dealer 7 times now for 60+ accumulated days of repair.
Some good news, because of the video I took last Saturday of the smoke coming from the passenger’s window (which you can see here)
They were able to locate some burnt and frayed wires, which you see at the end of that video. Those wires were shorting out on the chassis. On top of this they have found water damage in some of the other electronic components. This does explain some of the problems that is for sure, how much it fixed and how many problems remain I don’t think I will ever know. I also wonder why no fuses ever burnt out? I also wonder what other issues these shorts caused within the cars computer bus and what long term damage the water has caused.
The problem I have is that while I want to be fair and accommodating where possible, I am at the end of my patience and this is starting to take a toll on my health.
I was nervous about driving the car before that last incident now it gives me a feeling of dread. In the end no one was hurt and maybe I should man up and get past it, however I keep re-living the breakdown and close call I had that day while trying to get to the side of the road. I am not sleeping well and I have a twitch that makes my lower eyelid look like a jumping jellybean.
So I am very eager to have this all behind me. My girlfriend is a GP and switches between worrying about me and wanting to drive down to PCNA and stab a few people in the face. I have her restrained for now.
As for you guys, I am humbled by all the well wishing, advice and support I have received from the Porsche owners community. I want to thank everyone particularly those of you on Rennlist and 6Speed taking to time to support me.
Thank you everyone.
Nick
Last edited by nmurray22; 04-09-2014 at 01:48 PM.
#210
Race Director
hi Nick, you are indeed a patient person. IMO this has reached a CRIMINAL level. I would document your health issue and doctor's bills and some more for PAIN AND SUFFERING and submit them to PNA.
I would also retain a lawyer.
Given all the social media, youtube, internet forums and your propensity to film your reviews, PNA is being monumentally STUPID.
If I was a Ceo/owner of a business and saw this , I would do WHATEVER IT TAKES to make it go away.
Add this **** to the current GT3 fiasco, CL, IMS, Coolant pipes, Scored engines, blah blah blah and im beginning to think that all this Kool Aid is becoming TOXIC.
Porsche There ARE Substitutes!
I would also retain a lawyer.
Given all the social media, youtube, internet forums and your propensity to film your reviews, PNA is being monumentally STUPID.
If I was a Ceo/owner of a business and saw this , I would do WHATEVER IT TAKES to make it go away.
Add this **** to the current GT3 fiasco, CL, IMS, Coolant pipes, Scored engines, blah blah blah and im beginning to think that all this Kool Aid is becoming TOXIC.
Porsche There ARE Substitutes!